Will there be any new Super GT cars?

[queleuleu]

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You're not alone I hope the missing "Gr2" stands for Super GT. We already have enough FIA GT3 cars, I want to see some GT300 mother chassis with their crazy aero. GT500 cars are a given. It's crazy that GT is a sponsor of Super GT and don't use it. We can only hope a trailer at TGS with japonese tracks and Super GT cars.

Maybe FIA doesn't want to see some (old) LMP1 struggling with GT500 cars on tracks. Or even GT500 against LMP2 on Fuji.

 

[jubeiiiii246]

You're not alone I hope the missing "Gr2" stands for Super GT. We already have enough FIA GT3 cars, I want to see some GT300 mother chassis with their crazy aero. GT500 cars are a given. It's crazy that GT is a sponsor of Super GT and don't use it. We can only hope a trailer at TGS with japonese tracks and Super GT cars.

Maybe FIA doesn't want to see some (old) LMP1 struggling with GT500 cars on tracks. Or even GT500 against LMP2 on Fuji.

Your right about that. Well I think Super gt will be added. Have you seen the Super Gt rounds on YT, well I have. Pretty cool. Whn your wacthing it you have the usual Nissan GTR-GT,
Honda NSX-GT, the Lexus RCF-GT, Honda CRZ-GT300 and the Toyota Prius-GT300. Alongside those cars I've seen some Z4 GT3 SLS GT3, GTR GT3, Huracan GT3 and much more run against the Super Gt cars. So who knows maybe Super Gt will be added in sport:idea:

 

[queleuleu]

Your right about that. Well I think Super gt will be added. Have you seen the Super Gt rounds on YT, well I have. Pretty cool. Whn your wacthing it you have the usual Nissan GTR-GT,
Honda NSX-GT, the Lexus RCF-GT, Honda CRZ-GT300 and the Toyota Prius-GT300. Alongside those cars I've seen some Z4 GT3 SLS GT3, GTR GT3, Huracan GT3 and much more run against the Super Gt cars. So who knows maybe Super Gt will be added in sport:idea:

That's not a lot of work : three GT500 cars and several liveries. For GT300 cars, they could add :
-Subaru BRZ
-Toyota Prius (I'm sure Ferrari loves to see its 488 struggling with a Prius )
-Honda CRZ
-Lotus Evora

It's basically 7 cars and it's enough to make the Super GT fans happy I think. We have enough GT3 cars and the livery editor will do the job.

 

[syntex123]

I gotta say Super GT would be awesome in GTS, but I just don't see it happening.. Not to begin with, anyway. As a patch/DLC later on, sure. Why not. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Matej]

This thread raises important question - how profitable is to spend months modelling few Super GT cars when a year or two later a new selection will appear (probably before the game hits the shelves), making players wondering why PD hasn't included the latest ones?

These on-going racing series put lots of pressure on the developers nowadays, assuming they want to keep the list up-to-date.

 

[queleuleu]

This thread raises important question - how profitable is to spend months modelling few Super GT cars when a year or two later a new selection will appear (probably before the game hits the shelves), making players wondering why PD hasn't included the latest ones?

These on-going racing series put lots of pressure on the developers nowadays, assuming they want to keep the list up-to-date.

The GT500 class is only three cars. I'm sure they can scan 3 cars in the same year ^^ We had the HSV in GT6 but now the GT500 are much faster than the cars we have in Gran Turismo. Even faster than DTM cars.

 

[05XR8]

Maybe there won't be Super GT. The cars are just under Gr.1 yet, they become redundant if there are Gr.1 Nissan GT-R 2020 RM models.

The Gr.3 Impreza, pretty much, has taken the spot of the BR-Z GT300.
There is the real world NSX GT3. That's a shoein for Gr.3. The (Lexus)RC-F and (Nissan)R35 are already in for Gr.3. Then, there's also the Gr.3 Toyota GT-1.

We still have a few more months to go. We'll see.

 

[TiMcF1]

The GT500 class is only three cars. I'm sure they can scan 3 cars in the same year ^^ We had the HSV in GT6 but now the GT500 are much faster than the cars we have in Gran Turismo. Even faster than DTM cars.

HMM.. GT500 faster than DTM, Is this a fact?

I've always thought the new aero packages present on the Super GT500 cars were designed to conform to DTM specs in preparation for this "merger" that was rumoured to happen some time in the near future. Talk of this merger popped up around the same time the GT500 cars underwent their intended transformations for the 2014 season. Coincidentally I lost interest in Super GT after 2013. (for various reasons) so all this time I've just assumed DTM and GT500 current performance levels were identical.

 

[queleuleu]

HMM.. GT500 faster than DTM, Is this a fact?

I've always thought the new aero packages present on the Super GT500 cars were designed to conform to DTM specs in preparation for this "merger" that was rumoured to happen some time in the near future. Talk of this merger popped up around the same time the GT500 cars underwent their intended transformations for the 2014 season. Coincidentally I lost interest in Super GT after 2013. (for various reasons) so all this time I've just assumed DTM and GT500 current performance levels were identical.

Yep, GT500 cars are between LMP2 and LMP1. They are more prototypes than GT cars. There is also a "tires war" in Super GT with four manufactures when Hankook is the only one in DTM.

 

[TiMcF1]

Yep, GT500 cars are between LMP2 and LMP1. They are more prototypes than GT cars. There is also a "tires war" in Super GT with four manufactures when Hankook is the only one in DTM.

Wow I thought you would say in-between DTM and LMP2 but they're on par if not faster than LMP2? Damn. So the old ones are more GT cars if anything. You learn something new everyday. Now I truly understand your suspicions about the GR.2 class being a spot for GT500. Though since I learned of this GR.2 class anonymity, I was hoping it would be LMP2 cars but I wont stipulate.

 

[Oreca 1998]

If GTS was focusing on race cars then we'll probably get DTM, GT500, GT300, LMP2, LMGT, etc.
I mean, we already have GT1 & GT3 cars.

 

[chengman]

Is super GT a FIA thing? If not, nope

 

[Oreca 1998]

Is super GT a FIA thing? If not, nope

But Super GT is Japanese so is Kaz
Kaz won't let his nation down by not bringing new GT500 & GT300 cars

 

[Robbks]

GT300 = GT3 (pretty much) = GR.3

 

[Bo]

Wow I thought you would say in-between DTM and LMP2 but they're on par if not faster than LMP2? Damn. So the old ones are more GT cars if anything. You learn something new everyday. Now I truly understand your suspicions about the GR.2 class being a spot for GT500. Though since I learned of this GR.2 class anonymity, I was hoping it would be LMP2 cars but I wont stipulate.

The 2014 Audi R18 would have only qualified 4th in GT500 at Fuji last year based on quali times - the current GT500s are monstrously fast. The tiny four-pots kick out some extraordinary horsepower figures which goes a long way to explaining it, but they do squeeze a bit more out of each platform every year. A complete merger is looking less and less likely to happen; it's a flawed concept that serves no real purpose in my view and the logistics of making it gel together haven't been properly sorted.

Nobody knows if there'll be any GT500 or GT300 additions, that's about as much as anyone can really say at the minute. Whilst it would be nice, I don't exactly expect it.

 

[Castrol96]

I'm just waiting on the surprise on what's left hiding in the car list, maybe JGTC cars?

Would fit as a perfect slot.

 

[syntex123]

But Super GT is Japanese so is Kaz
Kaz won't let his nation down by not bringing new GT500 & GT300 cars

Doesn't mean it will be included in a FIA focused game, one can hope though

 

[Oreca 1998]

Doesn't mean it will be included in a FIA focused game, one can hope though

I never mentioned that Super GT is going to be included in a FIA focused game.
Just saying if Super GT is Japanese then Kaz will bring some new cars.
Besides, the NSX GT3 has a GT500 version which I already doubt it'll be in GTS.
GTS is focusing on GT3 unfortunately & this is making it hard for PD to add other categories in the game.

 

[syntex123]

Exactly. let's hope we get some Super GT action in the next game if GTS doesn't add any. @Oreca 1998

 

[Samus]

FIA focused game

People keep saying this, I don't see it at all. They're not in the title, they're not plastered all over the menus, they weren't plastered all over promotional materials, I see no indication the entire game is "FIA Focused". Instead I see one small portion, two online championships, to carry the FIA naming. Not too dissimilar to the "Nissan GT Academy" appearing in one small part of the game, they weren't "Nissan focused" games.

The car categories contain fictional concept cars and they are taking part in the official FIA events, I see absolutely no reason it couldn't also include racing series not sanctioned by the FIA in that case.

 

[Inferno251]

If they do appear I wouldn't be surprised to see the reappearance of the GT300 and GT500 'Base models.' especially with the livery editor and all...

But Super GT is Japanese so is Kaz
Kaz won't let his nation down by not bringing new GT500 & GT300 cars

Since there's no premium DTM or V8 Supercars in GT (since they're pretty similar), I would hope Super GT does come to GT Sport

 

[queleuleu]

GTsport will be at TGS. If they want to show something new in Japan, Suzuka and GT500 cars would be perfect.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Is super GT a FIA thing? If not, nope

Are all those fake cars FIA? So yes, it is perfectly possible.

 

[chengman]

Are all those fake cars FIA? So yes, it is perfectly possible.

By fake, you mean cars that are virtually tuned to have the same BoP? You can't merge a race series that isn't FIA into something that is the FIA. That's like NASCAR in GTS. Not happening.

 

[Tired Tyres]

By fake, you mean cars that are virtually tuned to have the same BoP? You can't merge a race series that isn't FIA into something that is the FIA. That's like NASCAR in GTS. Not happening.

VGTis FIA? Or the not an actual race car but one made up to fit a category. Is that FIA? Is the none existence of GR.2 somehow FIA?

 

[Samus]

By fake, you mean cars that are virtually tuned to have the same BoP? You can't merge a race series that isn't FIA into something that is the FIA. That's like NASCAR in GTS. Not happening.

There is no "FIA Racing Series" in GTS. There is are two online championships certified by the FIA. They are championships that the FIA recognise as official events, that is all. There is absolutely nothing to say those events couldn't contain vehicles that are in non-FIA series in real life, because as said, they already contain fictional cars. If the racing events were strictly FIA regulated like a real world series they wouldn't contain those either.

Also as I said, the whole sum of FIA involvement in GTS are those two championships. That is it. Even if Super GT cars weren't allowed in those two championships there is absolutely no reason they couldn't exist in the rest of the game.

 

[queleuleu]

There is no "FIA Racing Series" in GTS. There is are two online championships certified by the FIA. They are championships that the FIA recognise as official events, that is all. There is absolutely nothing to say those events couldn't contain vehicles that are in non-FIA series in real life, because as said, they already contain fictional cars. If the racing events were strictly FIA regulated like a real world series they wouldn't contain those either.

Also as I said, the whole sum of FIA involvement in GTS are those two championships. That is it. Even if Super GT cars weren't allowed in those two championships there is absolutely no reason they couldn't exist in the rest of the game.

And tracks accuracy? I think the rally track won't be used in the FIA championships given all the brands along the track like Pirelli, GoPro...when the Tokyo and oval tracks have none. It must be a part of the agreement, no additional brands in the track. (Except the ones already there in real life).

 

[chengman]

There is no "FIA Racing Series" in GTS. There is are two online championships certified by the FIA. They are championships that the FIA recognise as official events, that is all. There is absolutely nothing to say those events couldn't contain vehicles that are in non-FIA series in real life, because as said, they already contain fictional cars. If the racing events were strictly FIA regulated like a real world series they wouldn't contain those either.

Also as I said, the whole sum of FIA involvement in GTS are those two championships. That is it. Even if Super GT cars weren't allowed in those two championships there is absolutely no reason they couldn't exist in the rest of the game.

Might as well have bumper cars in GTS too then.

 

[Samus]

Might as well have bumper cars in GTS too then.

I don't know how to respond to that.

 

[jubeiiiii246]

This thread has grown. Thanks everyone