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CallmeDan
The thing that annoys me about ABS 0 on DS3, is that they lock up if I put 50% pressure on the brakes. Even if it's less than that, they still lock up. So frustrating.
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You mean the red brake bar at 50% ? That usually caused by racing brakes being used or too high BB used ( other factors could be tires, damper/spring and speed )

I used the tip of my thumb to brake using square button on my stick :) I recently did test laps with Aventador replica on CS tire, 5/7 BB, and braking from 180+mph at Fuji main straight, I have to apply full force braking ( 100% red bar ) for a few moment, then start to reduce the force gradually up until the apex at 40mph :) The tricky part is reducing the force, it takes time to get used to it and be accurate.

How much brake force till lock up varied according to many factors ( tire, weight, distribution, speed, damper + spring, aero and brake balance )

With ABS 1, most of the factors to lock up will not be a worry anymore.
 
Ridox2JZGTE
You mean the red brake bar at 50% ? That usually caused by racing brakes being used or too high BB used ( other factors could be tires, damper/spring and speed )

I used the tip of my thumb to brake using square button on my stick :) I recently did test laps with Aventador replica on CS tire, 5/7 BB, and braking from 180+mph at Fuji main straight, I have to apply full force braking ( 100% red bar ) for a few moment, then start to reduce the force gradually up until the apex at 40mph :) The tricky part is reducing the force, it takes time to get used to it and be accurate.

How much brake force till lock up varied according to many factors ( tire, weight, distribution, speed, damper + spring, aero and brake balance )

With ABS 1, most of the factors to lock up will not be a worry anymore.
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I mostly drive stock vehicles since I can't tune for my life and I rarely look for tunes. If I have a mostly stock car, you can bet I won't have racing brakes installed.
 
So much for getting back on topic, eh guys?

@The Stig Farmer - For you. But that would only be from lack of practice.

@JuuWoo - Don't need a wheel for ABS 0.

@Spurgy 777 - Re ABS: Riddox nailed it. I stand on the brakes initially, then ease up on them as I slow down. Do just fine. I prefer classic cars. So much of what I use tends to not have ABS. So I've tuned my technique and bias adjustments to work without it. Now, that said, I KNOW it would be faster with ABS-1. Because I wouldn't need to worry about anything, just stand on them the whole way (almost) and let the system handle it. In competition, that would matter. But for simulation (and fun), it's harmful to the experience. As for view - You haven't spent enough time inside a virtual 'pit to adapt apparently. Perhaps using them since MechWarrior 1 in 1990 (came out in '89) on a 14" CGA CRT through to today has made a major difference. But as stated previously, all input needed really does come from the internal view (when you are adapted and sensitive enough to it). What does not come through the internal view is that amount of viewing angle you get in other choices - the field of view. This is why it's more difficult and why so many here rail against the idea of it. Chase, hood, or bumper all provide a much larger viewing angle than would be possible in real life. This IS an advantage. There is no question about it. That is why it is used, and why people love it (and why track toys look like they do - aside from weight savings). But it's also why it is an aid. Just like SRF. (and why I want the option to disable it in lobbies) Nothing it provides is any sort of realism enhancement in any way, merely performance enhancement. And when going for leader board spots or GT A, that matters. (that's why you use it, it helps you be faster, regardless of anything else, as you just said) But it's still _not_ more realistic. Full Stop.


...are we done here?



Grandea GTR
Isn't it where if you increase the level of ABS, the brakes end up being in favor in cornering than straight up braking?
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Yes. Higher ABS settings means less chance for lockup, which means braking power is diminished, however, this also means you can get more into the lateral areas of the traction circle (turning) before exceeding grip limits, so in essence, with a higher ABS setting you can apply more pedal or stick longer into the turn without problem.
 
Grandea GTR
Isn't it where if you increase the level of ABS, the brakes end up being in favor in cornering than straight up braking?
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Yes, the level changes the amount of grip reserved for braking, higher value allows more cornering force to be used. It does not simply prevent lock up, but distribute brake and cornering force while also stabilizing the car. I have built many tunes/replica with no brake assist, most people who drive my cars with ABS 1 will notice more understeer under braking on entry due to the added stability as the cars were tuned without any assist. This also works the other way around, ABS 1 tune when driven without ABS will be generally a bit more loose under braking on entry.

CallmeDan
I mostly drive stock vehicles since I can't tune for my life and I rarely look for tunes. If I have a mostly stock car, you can bet I won't have racing brakes installed.
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Oh, I see, then the easiest solution if you want to keep ABS 0 is to lower the BB until it's comfortable for you :) Just need to keep in mind, on lower speed, the car will always need much less braking force before locking up. I had the same issues when I started GT5 back in late 2010 ( lock up too often ), 6 months were spent to get used to it and became 2nd nature trail braking without brake assist. It's a choice really.
 
DrkPhnyx
Chase, hood, or bumper all provide a much larger viewing angle than would be possible in real life. This IS an advantage. There is no question about it. That is why it is used, and why people love it (and why track toys look like they do - aside from weight savings). But it's also why it is an aid. Just like SRF. (and why I want the option to disable it in lobbies) Nothing it provides is any sort of realism enhancement in any way, merely performance enhancement. And when going for leader board spots or GT A, that matters. (that's why you use it, it helps you be faster, regardless of anything else, as you just said) But it's still _not_ more realistic. Full Stop.
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The advantage in 'vision' that is gained from exterior view is offset by the differences in handling between cockpit and exterior view. I drive GT6, iRacing, Assetto and other PC sims, aswell as most of the popular games on the PS consoles over the years (GT, Colin Mcrae, TOCA etc).

In GT, I've driven most versions of the game in multiple ways - manual/auto, exterior/cockpit view and for GT5 & 6 both on pad and wheel.

I drive a huge diversity of cars from low PP classics to LMP cars, changing view (sometimes during a race but nearly always during a 'test'), and I can tell you 100% there is a difference between the 2 views, especially noticed when using low grip tyres for a car.

Cockpit view is more stable, a setup for a car can be stable and responsive in cockpit view, but change to exterior view and it can often feel like the car 'wobbles', especially during 'lift off' of both throttle or brake. This is not an advantage as you now have to wait for the car to settle.

Secondly, I have a learning disability that affects the part of my brain that processes visual information, driving cockpit view is extremely difficult as it's much harder for me to see and process all the necessary information. I can do it for short periods of time, but no way can I do it on either GT or the PC sims for as long as I can with exterior view with GT.

Exterior view might well seem like it's there for the casual user, but it's also very helpful for some people, especially when racing in close quarters with cars around you.

Your points are valid to a certain extent, in some situations, but not for all in all situations. If simulation and equality is important for you, sorry, but GT is not the game for you, and it'll probably never will be.

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I always trial brake and feather the throttle... I don't drive 100% throttle and brake.
 
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Worst at the moment is constantly getting disconnected.

Sky refuse to accept the blame, or even offer any possible fixes.
 
watermelon punch
Recap:

  • Somebody was unwelcome to race against a vintage muscle car at Monte Carlo in a van.

  • Somebody showed up to an impromptu race prepared with tricks up his sleeve, and a social media food fight ensued.

  • Somebody joined some GTP cops lobby and then the host claimed him that he's speeding even if he didn't go over the speed limit and then he stopped in the middle of the road with the host "cop" car behind him which isn't allowed so he got kicked before he could explain why he stopped at the wrong place.

  • Someone joined a free run room, only to find that the host started the race... but when he got here to lament the injustice, he instead decided this thread was a worse fate than a poorly labeled pub lobby and left us to it.

And then you got back. 👍
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Fixed that for yo'.
 
watermelon punch
I guess you showed me! :lol:


:odd: Still not at all sure what happened there. :odd:
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Yeah i know i'm very bad at explaining but the thing is i feel that i couldn't get back to their room ( i wasn't even a member of it but sometimes most times they do public room so i could get in).

Only if i could mention who they're and what thread & club is it...
 
ToyGTone
Yeah i know i'm very bad at explaining but the thing is i feel that i couldn't get back to their room ( i wasn't even a member of it but sometimes most times they do public room so i could get in).

Only if i could mention who they're and what thread & club is it...
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Wait... do you even know what club it is? :boggled:
Or you do... but you refuse to go to the thread and explain yourself?

I don't understand... if you want to participate in this club, why you wouldn't go post in the club thread, and ask about joining, and learn a better understanding of the expected cops session rules.
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watermelon punch
Wait... do you even know what club it is? :boggled:
Or you do... but you refuse to go to the thread and explain yourself?

I don't understand... if you want to participate in this club, why you wouldn't go post in the club thread, and ask about joining, and learn a better understanding of the expected cops session rules.
:confused:
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I was going to join but they didn't allowed me since most club members are american's and i have a different timeline than they have (obviously) and the fact schools had just started this week for me means i couldn't join any of their room until the "weekends".

I already readed the Rules and so on couple times but what's the point of reading it again if i couldn't join again anymore?

I will just give a hint....it's on GT6 Clubs & Leagues..... won't tell more...
 
ToyGTone
I was going to join but they didn't allowed me since most club members are american's and i have a different timeline than they have (obviously) and the fact schools had just started this week for me means i couldn't join any of their room until the "weekends".

I already readed the Rules and so on couple times but what's the point of reading it again if i couldn't join again anymore?
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Were you told you couldn't join anymore?
 
watermelon punch
Were you told you couldn't join anymore?
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Have you ever heard of someone got kicked out of a room then allowed him to join back in gt6?
i don't think so, he didn't told me if i could join again but he did say after i explaining it "why you didn't say in the first place, i waited you for ages and you didn't respond"...etc.
 
ToyGTone
Have you ever heard of someone got kicked out of a room then allowed him to join back in gt6?
i don't think so, he didn't told me if i could join again but he did say after i explaining it "why you didn't say in the first place, i waited you for ages and you didn't respond"...etc.
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  • If you are kicked from a room... you can't join that room anymore (as long as it exists)
  • If the host puts you on BLOCK (on PSN) then you will never be able to join a room that host makes - even after the host leaves.
  • But if you were just kicked... and NOT blocked... there's no reason you wouldn't be able to join again another day (unless you were told not to!)

But do you know if the host put you on block? Did you send the host a nasty message on PSN?

You haven't even posted to the club thread... you don't talk to the members... But you are here. :confused:

(And making lots of assumptions I think. :boggled:)
 
watermelon punch
  • If you are kicked from a room... you can't join that room anymore (as long as it exists)
  • If the host puts you on BLOCK (on PSN) then you will never be able to join a room that host makes - even after the host leaves.
  • But if you were just kicked... and NOT blocked... there's no reason you wouldn't be able to join again another day (unless you were told not to!)
But do you know if the host put you on block? Did you send the host a nasty message on PSN?

You haven't even posted to the club thread... you don't talk to the members... But you are here. :confused:

(And making lots of assumptions I think. :boggled:)
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I don't know if the host blocked me and no, i didn't sent him something like that, i only sent him the explaining to what exactly happened and he replied like what i said earlier.

I did post in that thread (but it's like 1-3 posts only) and i still follow the thread....
*sending the thread link on PM*
 
ToyGTone
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At that Chicane there was the host "Cop" car parked over there so after i passed him and went to that long back straight he started to follow me from the back, at first i didn't know why as the speed limit over this part of the track is 65 MPH but i was driving around 55-60 MPH so i wasn't speeding then he came closer and was honking at me then he hit me so i thought he wanted me to stop right here so i stopped my car but because i stopped at a very wrong place to stop he told me "why i stopped in the middle of the road" so i went to the nearest place to park my car which was on the next corner. he then said to me that the speed limit 65 which i replied to him that i was driving less than 65, then he asking me again couple times why i stopped in the middle of the road, then while i was about to reply to him with a bit long message he kicked me out of the room. Then i sent him on PSN explaining why i stopped then he replies why i didn't say that before so i explained him why i didn't said that then he replies that he was asking me that question for a lot of minutes repetitively and that i didn't answer it.

One of the main reasons this is one of the worst of my Gt6 online experience is that it's not just a random open room but it's a room made by some good fellow GTPlanet members that had it's own thread that you could find while searching on GT6 Online part of this forum. Now everyone from that thread thinks that i'm an idiot, piece of 🤬, mother 🤬, :censored:hole, s:censored: head and now they will hate me forever...

I gotta admit that it's my fault that i stopped my car on the middle of the road thinking that they wanted me to stop right "here" but i didn't speed up in that room. I just wish if didn't do that in the first place.
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From what I could tell, you were going much slower. Possibly somewhere in the 45-50 MPH range. That is just my opinion, which is different than yours. That's fine. However, I do know that I did not flash my lights, honk, or signal you to pull over in any way. Then, after following you closely for a couple seconds, you stopped in the middle of the road. I was completely puzzled as to why this happened, and I never received any response whatsoever from you in the game chat.

So from there, my inference was that you were the typical random that is letting his pet porcupine control the DS3, while he watches in disbelief as the car wreaks havoc all over the track. You have to understand where we are coming from. We get tons of people every lobby that just have no idea what they're doing and are driving horribly like they're drunk. Just stupid people.

Now, I am not saying at all that you fall under that category. I am saying that from what I observed, I jumped to the conclusion that you should no longer be a part of the room. That was the wrong decision on my part. I got impatient. I apologize that you had such a bad time in our lobby, and I'm sorry that I removed you before you got a chance to type (I thought I waited a good 5-10 minutes before the kick). Anyway, it was due to a simple mistunderstanding, and that's no reason for either of us to have a bad experience.

Nevertheless, I am more than willing to put this misunderstanding behind, and I want to let you know that if you ever do decide to join in the future, you are more than welcome to do so. And hopefully it will be a much better experience. :cheers:
 
Beav
Anyway, it was due to a simple mistunderstanding, and that's no reason for either of us to have a bad experience.

Nevertheless, I am more than willing to put this misunderstanding behind, and I want to let you know that if you ever do decide to join in the future, you are more than welcome to do so. And hopefully it will be a much better experience. :cheers:
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I suspected as much that it was a pure misunderstanding!


And so we have a happy ending here on the Worst You've Dealt with Online thread. :) 👍


Happy Valentine's Day Everybody! :lol: <3 <3
 
Beav
From what I could tell, you were going much slower. Possibly somewhere in the 45-50 MPH range. That is just my opinion, which is different than yours. That's fine. However, I do know that I did not flash my lights, honk, or signal you to pull over in any way. Then, after following you closely for a couple seconds, you stopped in the middle of the road. I was completely puzzled as to why this happened, and I never any response whatsoever from you in the game chat.

So from there, my inference was that you were the typical random that is letting his pet porcupine control the DS3, while he watches in disbelief as the wreaks havoc all over the track. You have to understand where we are coming from. We get tons of people every lobby that just have no idea what they're doing and are driving horribly like they're drunk. Just stupid people.

Now, I am not saying at all that you fall under that category. I am saying that from what I observed, I jumped to the conclusion that you should no longer be a part of the room. That was the wrong decision on my part. I got impatient. I apologize that you had such a bad time in our lobby, and I'm sorry that I removed you before you got a chance to type (I thought I waited a good 5-10 minutes before the kick). Anyway, it was due to a simple mistunderstanding, and that's no reason for either of us to have a bad experience.

Nevertheless, I am more than willing to put this misunderstanding behind, and I want to let you know that if you ever do decide to join in the future, you are more than welcome to do so. And hopefully it will be a much better experience. :cheers:
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I think the reason why you "crashed" at me before i stop my C63 is because of the internet connection, not your fault so that's another thing i misunderstood and from what you're saying we were basically misunderstood each other.
Other than that...

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👍 Glad we got the problem solved :cheers:

I just afraid that i might do something dumb once again.
 
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legacyMACHINE
I wouldn't open those links, just giving you a heads up. Internet security and all that jazz ;)
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I'm scanning the whole PC, it will take some time to finish but it's going to worth it.

Thanks for the head up.

EDIT: i didn't meant the malware but the thread link.
 
ToyGTone
I'm scanning the whole PC, it will take some time to finish but it's going to worth it.

Thanks for the head up.

EDIT: i didn't meant the malware but the thread link.
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Ah right. It's helpful, and gives you a few ways to get rid just in case.
 
@legacyMACHINE
Alright before the scan, when i switch my post with those Malware Ads to BB Code editor, it looks normal to me. Now when i edited that post with Malware Ads using BBC code editor i get that akamaihd or something like the one on the thread you linked so i removed them, could you check just ot make sure if it's gone?

and also now i don't have those left, right, top and bottom annoying Ads anymore on GTplanet.
I feel really relieved about this.
 

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