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ITCC_Andrew
Sooooo much love for the 2.5RS interior. One of the main reasons I want to make a 2.5RS shell into an STi. I might as well..... :)
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And pay, probably two times the cost of an STi? Pointless. You may as well put the 2.5RS interior into an STi...
 
SVX
There's just... no point what so ever. It's never ever going to be a real STi, so why make it look like one?
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I know my car is not going to be a STI either but I'm taking quite a few parts from them haha in fact I'm picking and choosing the best parts from each year that are compatible with my year. It's a long road but that's the fun in it, anyone can buy a STI, I just don't feel its unique. I really like all the aspects of my wagon if they would have made a STI wagon in the states I would own one. Since they don't I gotta put some extra work in.

Tbh it also depends on your ability to do the work yourself, you can come out cheaper and still get the performance of a STI when modding a WRX or 2.5rs. Now if your paying someone else to do all the work and buying all the parts new from a dealership, no way it would be a lot more expensive.

I don't condone the whole STI badges everywhere when your running stock performance though, it just makes you look bad in the end, but to all there own it's their car they can do as they please with it. I'm waiting to badge my wagon till I have my build done, it will be like christening it haha.

So I defiantly think there is a point and some say the 2.0 can be a nicer platform to build on depending on your goals.
 
WrxScooby
I know my car is not going to be a STI either but I'm taking quite a few parts from them haha in fact I'm picking and choosing the best parts from each year that are compatible with my year. It's a long road but that's the fun in it, anyone can buy a STI, I just don't feel its unique. I really like all the aspects of my wagon if they would have made a STI wagon in the states I would own one. Since they don't I gotta put some extra work in.

Tbh it also depends on your ability to do the work yourself, you can come out cheaper and still get the performance of a STI when modding a WRX or 2.5rs. Now if your paying someone else to do all the work and buying all the parts new from a dealership, no way it would be a lot more expensive.

I don't condone the whole STI badges everywhere when your running stock performance though, it just makes you look bad in the end, but to all there own it's their car they can do as they please with it. I'm waiting to badge my wagon till I have my build done, it will be like christening it haha.

So I defiantly think there is a point and some say the 2.0 can be a nicer platform to build on depending on your goals.
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Ah, I completely forgot about the STi hatch not coming to the States, my bad. My brother had one of those. Probably the only car I've been in so far that actually put me back in my seat.

I understand a WRX, which is the closest thing you can get. But, TBH, modifying a non turbo 2.5RS into an STi is a bit too unnecessary, when you can do the same to a WRX and save you so much money and work. It's still going to look like an STi in the end, so why make it difficult by choosing a car with a very different engine?

I really look forward to seeing how you go with you WRX though, your plans look so good. :drool:
 
SVX
Ah, I completely forgot about the STi hatch not coming to the States, my bad. My brother had one of those. Probably the only car I've been in so far that actually put me back in my seat.

I understand a WRX, which is the closest thing you can get. But, TBH, modifying a non turbo 2.5RS into an STi is a bit too unnecessary, when you can do the same to a WRX and save you so much money and work. It's still going to look like an STi in the end, so why make it difficult by choosing a car with a very different engine?
I really look forward to seeing how you go with you WRX though, your plans look so good. :drool:
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Also keep in mind that the USDM WRX is a 2.0L motor while the USDM STi is a 2.5L up until 2008(I think someone correct me). So its not totaly crazy to put work into a 2.5RS though it is not as common. My mechanic has a 2.5RS that is now a monster. He modded pretty much everything, now he is a master scooby tech so its just fun and games for him but it can be done and it makes for a awesome sleeper.

I dont know the specs cause they change by the day so ill leave it at this. Big boost, big torque, and stuck to the ground.
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WrxScooby
I know my car is not going to be a STI either but I'm taking quite a few parts from them haha in fact I'm picking and choosing the best parts from each year that are compatible with my year. It's a long road but that's the fun in it, anyone can buy a STI, I just don't feel its unique. I really like all the aspects of my wagon if they would have made a STI wagon in the states I would own one. Since they don't I gotta put some extra work in.

Tbh it also depends on your ability to do the work yourself, you can come out cheaper and still get the performance of a STI when modding a WRX or 2.5rs. Now if your paying someone else to do all the work and buying all the parts new from a dealership, no way it would be a lot more expensive.

I don't condone the whole STI badges everywhere when your running stock performance though, it just makes you look bad in the end, but to all there own it's their car they can do as they please with it. I'm waiting to badge my wagon till I have my build done, it will be like christening it haha.

So I defiantly think there is a point and some say the 2.0 can be a nicer platform to build on depending on your goals.
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Well said. Anyone can just simply buy the STI. When you custom build your car, THATS what makes it unique. I personally really enjoy seeing custom / unique builds. Especially like your wagon. 👍

You are also correct. The RS and STI have the 2.5 engine. The WRX has the 2.0 engine. Which I always found VERY strange. One thing is for sure. Our RS 2.5 feels a lot more powerful idling around and just cruising compared to the WRX 2.0. UNTIL the turbo opens up on the WRX. Then its a different story. But if you don't count the turbo, the 2.5 rs feels a lot more powerful. My guess is that the 2.5 has more hp than the 2.0 UNTIL the turbo kicks in. I wonder what the baseline power is between the 2.0 and the 2.5 not counting the turbo.
 
I'm one of those car guys that wants some power who decided to take the "easy way out" and just buy an STI instead of build up a WRX. I'm all for building a car, I've always wanted to do that (I'd like to build a 2.5 RS one day), but I don't have the time and know how to do it.

My buddy has an 02 WRX that has all STI parts except the engine block at this point. He took years to build it, whereas I went out and bought my car in a day and we are at the same level of performance and the cars look the same. Just 2 types of car people.

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In the long run, I'm saving money - no car payments, no STi-price insurance, doing the work myself and learning




how to fix it for future reference...



Basically, compare the cost of importing an STi wagon, paying insurance on it, and paying someone else to do the work, with having a totally sleeper CDM (Canadian) 2.5RS wagon with nothing but an STi hood and splitter to tell the difference... :mischievous:



But, another thing, is that I've already put so much time/money/effort into my 2.5RS, I don't want to give it up/sell it.. The HID headlights, mudflaps... I love it the way it is. I've grown accustomed to the handling, I can predict it... It's got tons of space, and I'm doing the whole thing my way.



It really is personal choice. I respect people who buy STis from the lot, tune their WRXs to beat STis, and those who swap... In the end, STi is STI is STi. There's no huge difference except for the steps involved. For someone who's going to school to be a mechanic, and who wants to work for a Subaru performance shop, this is the perfect idea.
 
Proud to announce that my good friend and mechanic Arron Stump at 316 Motorworks has finished building his latest and by far the most advanced, professional, and totally awesome rally car.

The Story thus far.


Then.



Now.
2004 WRX STi 316 Motorworks & IMO Fab Rally Team​


The car is running a experimental heavy deck 2.0 block from japan that they will be testing (Only 5 made I believe)
Currently running a VF-34 Turbo at 25Psi and the reason for the high psi is because he just got sponsored by Garret Turbos and they will be suppling him with a Rally Potato turbo ($5000+) that will replace it as soon as it goes. Custom fuel cell running 109-110 octane. Fully custom interior with iPad to view car information and wirelessly control goPros around the vehicle. Current power is 320whp and 400ft-lbs torque, this will dramatically change with new turbo. Every aspect of the vehicle is either brand new or fully rebuilt the car has 44miles on it.

Him and his team of 5 will be leaving tomorrow (Sunday Jan. 19th 2014) to their first event at Sno* Drift Rally America in Michigan on Jan. 24th 2014 to compete in the Open Class. The car will be driven by Hawk Miller who has competed in numerous under class rallies but this will be his first major rally. Their co-driver is Mustafa Samli who has 30 years of co-driving experience and has competed in the World Rally Championship as well as Rally America events.

316 MotorWorks: http://www.316mw.com/
Sno* Drift Rally: http://www.sno-drift.org/
316 MotorWorks Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXtwUYFQhA7dboNSPRUc_Gg
Rally Potato: http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchan...tp&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-300&Category_Code=GTX

We did a last minute photo shoot around town to introduce the car, and the fact it will never look this clean again haha.


Rally Car by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally Engine by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally Inside by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally Town by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally Allyway by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally B&W by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally Fuel by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally Interior by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr


Rally Front by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr

On the trailer and ready to go.

Rally Rear by TheScoobyWagon, on Flickr

Hope everyone enjoyed, and if your in the area give them your support. He has put his life into this paving his own path to success in the world of motor sport.
 
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Why no pictures of the other side of the dash? The co-driver's choice of T&D equipment interests me... Rally cars have a chronometer on the passenger side of the dash... AAaaaaaarrrrrgggg.


And... Which part of the rule about "no alterations to OEM lighting" did he skip/get permission for?



What?!


I'm so confused, I'm seeing parts that aren't allowed in NARC. :confused:
 
ITCC_Andrew
Why no pictures of the other side of the dash? The co-driver's choice of T&D equipment interests me... Rally cars have a chronometer on the passenger side of the dash... AAaaaaaarrrrrgggg.


And... Which part of the rule about "no alterations to OEM lighting" did he skip/get permission for?



What?!


I'm so confused, I'm seeing parts that aren't allowed in NARC. :confused:
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I dont know what NARC has to do with Rally America but they are in compliance with all regulations that open class national rally requires. NARC is for sprint cars and things of that nature and Im not even sure that organization exists down here anymore.
http://www.rally-america.com/rules

Ill get some co driver side shots when I do another more planned shoot. I had control of the windows, horn, timed odometer for stages, and lights. Plus the fancy red light for the book and seatbelt mounted mic.
 
North America Rally Cup. When Canada and America are both competed in, they're called the NARC. If you're talking about one single championship, Rally America and CRC (Canadian Rally Championship) are separate.

I had control of the windows, horn, timed odometer for stages, and lights. Plus the fancy red light for the book and seatbelt mounted mic.
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Ahhh, so the iPad didn't replace it. I was wondering where it was.


Did you have a chance to see where they chose to put the radiator?


Was just looking at Crazy Leo's career notes, not once did his car overheat... Can-jam Motorsports and the other team I want to work for both have V-mounted intercoolers and radiators up front, but I still see the intercooler on top of that one.


The car does look pretty well prepared, asides from a couple of things...



NARC rules
10. Lighting Devices
All lighting and signaling devices must comply with the legal
requirements of the state or province of registration.
Freedom is granted with regard to the headlight frontal glass, the
reflector, and the bulbs. The mounting of additional headlights is
authorized. A headlight shall be considered as any lighting device
throwing a beam toward the front (dipped-beam, long-range lamp,
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anti-fog lamp). The fitting of reverse lights is authorized provided
they will only switch on when reverse gear is engaged. The mounting
of maneuverable searchlights is prohibited.
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I'm pretty sure removing the coloured part of the turn signal is illegal. I've never seen white/clear turn signals before in my life, at least outside of pictures/videos from Japan. I'll do some research and check, but make sure you keep the orange bits...


And the radiator, given that I can't see it, I'm hoping that it's also in a good spot where it's not likely to be absolutely destroyed by some of the rocks/tree branches/rally debris that you'll see.


When I was at Rally of the Tall Pines, there was a tree branch about 3" thick in the middle of the road. You've got to make sure that nothing can damage the things that are most likely to break:


-steering (pumps, etc)
-radiator (if it's still at the front, laying directly 90 degrees perpendicular to the ground)



Just trying to help, making sure you've got the correct regulations... :D



For example:


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130824161242AArhfRk

White (aka colourless) lenses on a 200x Impreza illegal in Washington state...


BUT, in Texas and California...



http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11242&showall=1

*Language warning, I haven't read every post of this, only scanned. If you find offensive language, feel free to remove the link*


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Looked up the laws for my areas...


http://www.civicforums.com/forums/31-canada-east/231715-white-turn-signal-legal-gta-hamilton.html


Whites only kinda legal in Ontario... Kinda... Kinda...



http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/publications/lourds/inspection_guide.pdf


Miraculously found an English link... Whites are legal in Québec, but probably not superwhites like in Ontario...
 
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Trust me we are just fine everything is okay for rally, he knows what hes doing and has some of the best in the business supporting him. He has been involved with professional rally cars for some time, with actual hands on master pit/crew chief experience. We know what we are doing.
 
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Well the ads are out there Im officially searching.

One ad is looking for a Wagon Driver front fender

Other is looking for Sedan Front fenders and sedan bumper but must be paint crystal grey metallic.

Wish me luck haha.
 
WrxScooby
Well the ads are out there Im officially searching.

One ad is looking for a Wagon Driver front fender

Other is looking for Sedan Front fenders and sedan bumper but must be paint crystal grey metallic.

Wish me luck haha.
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You'll need it! I want a new hood, but it's stupidly difficult to find anything in CGM. Our colour is uncommon. Especially with a two-tone...
 
ITCC_Andrew
You'll need it! I want a new hood, but it's stupidly difficult to find anything in CGM. Our colour is uncommon. Especially with a two-tone...
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Yup thats why I either want a 04-05 Wagon fender in any color just no dents, that I will get painted. Then the other option is 05 CGM Sedan front end. I figure between the two my chances are pretty much the same at finding them, and at the end of the day and with the cost of painting these days the price might be the same to.
 
I'm seriously only looking for a hood, and even that's impossibe to find for less than like $500, and carbon fiber hoods are pretty much the same price. :eek:
 
ITCC_Andrew
Can you find me a link, please? I looked for "generic" Impreza hoods, and didn't find anything that would work (non-STi) for less than $700ish. If there's something more reasonable, I would do it.
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I'm not really in the know about Impreza's sorry, I just know there are a hell of a lot of fibreglass options for Skylines so I thought the same would apply for your car.

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?g=y&SearchText=nissan+skyline+R33&CatId=0&shipCountry=nz&isAtmOnline=n&page=2

They're a cost effective option, lighter than steel and fibreglass isn't exactly weak.

http://www.carbonmiata.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=86_20&product_id=73

Could give you an idea of the price? (Again, not helpful for your particular car.. but this site is run by a friend of a friend so it sprung to mind as a reference)

EDIT: Not sure what gen your Impreza is but I found this in my travels

http://www.abwmotorsport.co.uk/#!product/prd1/1591235435/classic-vented-bonnet
 
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I got a quote from a friends recommendation called Oakleaf where he has specifically Subaru's in his auto yard. He said he usually charges:

$100-$150 per fender
$100-$200 for a front bumper
Max $500
Only catch is they would need to be in CGM but sedans being more popular it shouldnt be as difficult to find. I need a Impreza, RS, WRX, STI in CGM.

Then the other side
One used wagon fender $70-$150 could be lower cause I wont care if its scratched cause it will need paint anyway.
Paint for the fender $???? est. $200-$400
Max $550

Perfect world I find a CGM Wagon fender for $100-$150
 
Would almost be better off buying a whole rear ended car, stripping it then scrapping it, unreal.
 
That's slightly incoherent. Even a car that's been rear-ended has $5000 in value :lol: because the transmission and engine are both worth about $3000-4000. I've been planning swaps.
 
UrieHusky
Would almost be better off buying a whole rear ended car, stripping it then scrapping it, unreal.
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Well that's what I'm on the lookout for, a rear ended impreza model at a yard that I could go and strip off the front bits. According to the guy at oakleaf it's been a bit hard to find any scoobys with rear end only damage most are frontal crashes as of lately. Damn kids crashing into stuff.

I'm working on a list of auto parts yards in Arizona to call and ask personally what they have. I don't trust the online parts request forms.

I don't want to but I might be able to piece the front together but then you risk the paint not matching right. You can get paint blended right?
 
Yes.


However, you can also definitely see if any have blown their engines. You'd be surprised, if anyone blows their engine, it normally means "scrap." Then, the parts guys can get the parts for you from that.

Keep an eye out.
 
WrxScooby
Well that's what I'm on the lookout for, a rear ended impreza model at a yard that I could go and strip off the front bits. According to the guy at oakleaf it's been a bit hard to find any scoobys with rear end only damage most are frontal crashes as of lately. Damn kids crashing into stuff.

I'm working on a list of auto parts yards in Arizona to call and ask personally what they have. I don't trust the online parts request forms.

I don't want to but I might be able to piece the front together but then you risk the paint not matching right. You can get paint blended right?
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When you're dealing with a quarter panel you can normally get away with a slightly different colour panel, the panel gaps act as a blending tool and makes differences less noticeable

But yes you can blend the paint - but personally if I were going that far I'd simply get a panel of any colour for cheap, strip the paint and take it to a professional booth.

ITCC_Andrew
That's slightly incoherent. Even a car that's been rear-ended has $5000 in value :lol: because the transmission and engine are both worth about $3000-4000. I've been planning swaps.
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Yeah but some people can't be bothered and/or don't know the value of the engine/transmission - you'd be surprised how many great cars sell for dirt cheap here just because there's fatal chassis damage.
 

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