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Unfortunately he didn't race at Le Mans though...
Apparently the World Karting Championships where he took part in were held at Le Mans though. Just the kart track, not the full one.
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Apparently the World Karting Championships where he took part in were held at Le Mans though. Just the kart track, not the full one.
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Nice. Graham hill was a fast, smooth left, and the second turn on the gp part of the track was a slower 90 degree turn. The tarmac from the old Paddock turn was also still exposed at this time. These were changed to how they currently are sometime in the late 80s, after its last F1 race.http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/senna/
"tracks like the Brands Hatch GP circuit and the Italian circuit of Monza, which have been given a complete makeover in order to restore their original layouts from the '80s."
As for Monza, the Lesmo corners were faster and smoother, and the first chicane was a double chicane. There was less runoff outside Parabolica, so the turn may have been slightly different. I'm not expecting a no chicane layout or the oval.
Spa with the old Bus Stop? An 80s Silverstone? If we get Interlagos, maybe the old circuit as well as the current one? Shame we don't have Hockenheim...
Forgot to mention Nurb GP/F too, no horrible first sector, and only the fast chicane at the end of the lap.
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I can't wait to see photos of the older layouts of Brands and Monza. Biggest difference should be the profile of some of the turns as @DrifterJoe said and smaller runoff.
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So basically, 1980's Monza and Brands Hatch confirmed for next season? 
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http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/senna/
"tracks like the Brands Hatch GP circuit and the Italian circuit of Monza, which have been given a complete makeover in order to restore their original layouts from the '80s."
I'd add Fuji '80's and '90's, but F1 didn't race there again until the mid-Oughties while they were racing at Suzuka in the early '90's. No idea if we'll get the Detroit and Dallas street courses either. But I digress since this is regarding tracks.
I'm actually pondering getting more of the GT-O cars so I can find a suitable ride for me before going head-first into Chapter VIII, but I'll need a idea of what the final lineup will be.
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I think we'd still use modern Monza for WSC, since we couldn't have an 80s no-chicane layout. The tarmac was covered in gravel when Monza had the double first chicane.
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In Monza the double chicane at the start of the lap (which were both left-right instead of the single right-left we have since 2000), they were preceded by a slight kink to the right just before the braking zone at the end of the straight... I actually loved that version which I got to race around in a few F1 games I played in the 90's (Microprose Grand Prix 1, 2 and 3)
Old Spa should be a must, given how successful he was on that circuit (only behind Schumacher)...
As for Interlagos, the old version wouldn't be used since F1 only raced there in 1979 or 1980, other possibility could be Jacarepaguá, which held the Brazilian GP in 1978, and between 1981 and 1989...
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So for future WSC... Classic Monza, Brands, and Goodwood maybe 
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I remember watching a few of the Goodwood Revival Meeting events on television and I remember there were races that featured the Prototype and GT cars. If we were to have a race on the Goodwood track, which name or names of the races can we use?So for future WSC... Classic Monza, Brands, and Goodwood maybe
Here's a link to the races that are going on at this year's Goodwood Revival Meeting
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I presume Brands is going to be like the configuration on F1 2013 and I have slight racing experience of racing at a classic Monza on the F1 98 game and the World Touring Car game from around 15 years ago
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I had F1 99 on PS1 as well but didn't play it as much. My copy of F1 98 still works even though it's scratched to bits.
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Had a quick look at the 1985 Grand Prix at Brands, and it should be exactly the same as in F1 2013.
I've not driven the older Monza at all, so I checked the 1985 Grand Prix there to compare to the current track. Other than the differences already mentioned by myself and Yera, the second chicane is slightly different and seems faster, and the final left of Ascari seems faster and smoother too. There is gravel covering the tarmac we use at Monza No-chicane, so if we use old Monza for WSC we will have to use all chicanes.
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It's mentioned on slide 12 of the Senna tribute slideshow on the GT website: http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/senna/
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Hate to be so negative, but since everyone seems to get their hopes up with wishlists of 80's tracks ... they didn't announce any new tracks, did they? What are the odds that PD really would suddenly implement tracks from the 80's that are not already in the game?
Makes you doubt again where PD's priorities are - instead of adding new content, they work on slightly altered tracks that are already in the game and, let's be honest, don't make the slightest bit of difference for the enjoyment of playing it. Who really needs another variation of Brands Hatch GP instead of the existing one where some tree is in a different place? These sparse updates with bugs that stay unaddressed now for almost half a year already strongly suggest to me that PD is only incorporating what they absolutely have to into GT6, because they are contractually obliged to, like some Senna-content that they promised to the Senna Foundation, and are working on GT6 with a limited workforce only. To me, all the signs indicate that they have already moved on to PS4 with their development, and large portions of what was supposed to be released for GT6, will only make it in for GT7. Maybe the number of GT6-games sold wasn't high enough for paid DLC to make sense for them, maybe they got frustrated by the PS3's limited capacities (another example of PD biting off more than it could chew), maybe Sony marketing rather wants them to deliver a PS4-game rather sooner than later, who knows. They even managed to miss the anniversary of Senna's death, although that should have been an unmovable release date for the additional content.
Anyway, I hope I'm at least partly wrong.
Makes you doubt again where PD's priorities are - instead of adding new content, they work on slightly altered tracks that are already in the game and, let's be honest, don't make the slightest bit of difference for the enjoyment of playing it. Who really needs another variation of Brands Hatch GP instead of the existing one where some tree is in a different place? These sparse updates with bugs that stay unaddressed now for almost half a year already strongly suggest to me that PD is only incorporating what they absolutely have to into GT6, because they are contractually obliged to, like some Senna-content that they promised to the Senna Foundation, and are working on GT6 with a limited workforce only. To me, all the signs indicate that they have already moved on to PS4 with their development, and large portions of what was supposed to be released for GT6, will only make it in for GT7. Maybe the number of GT6-games sold wasn't high enough for paid DLC to make sense for them, maybe they got frustrated by the PS3's limited capacities (another example of PD biting off more than it could chew), maybe Sony marketing rather wants them to deliver a PS4-game rather sooner than later, who knows. They even managed to miss the anniversary of Senna's death, although that should have been an unmovable release date for the additional content.
Anyway, I hope I'm at least partly wrong.
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Not going to lie, if they ruin this game, who's going to buy GT7? Get your priorities right :/
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Hockenhiem was such an amazing circuit, it's a shame that they ruined it...
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Depends which ruining you're referring to. Until 1968 there were no chicanes between the Nordkurve (turn 1) and the Motodrom, which means there were two insanely long straights with one ultra-fast right-hander (Ostkurve) in between. Then they had 2 chicanes basically cutting the 2 straights in half. That's how I got to know it when I started watching F1. Then, in 1982, they castrated the Ostkurve with another chicane.
Personally, I think the track had character, but it's a little bit romanticized. From the moment you were through Nordkurve, it was just a matter of putting the throttle down and braking for the chicanes. Only the Ostkurve, when it was still unchanged, was a challenge at high speeds with low downforce for the next 1:30. For me, it always had a lot of similarity with Monza.
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Seems like I have to paddle back a bit now.
Pitstop tyre bug allegedly fixed?
Endurance races with time limit?
If the whole online affair is more stable now as well, this might actually be a useful update. Why do I always have to get angry first before we get one of those...?
Pitstop tyre bug allegedly fixed?
Endurance races with time limit?
If the whole online affair is more stable now as well, this might actually be a useful update. Why do I always have to get angry first before we get one of those...?
