Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"

[FlourescentBlak]

*sigh*

Back OT, don't know If I mentioned this yet but the only difference between standards and premuims that I care about is cockpit view and for two weeks now I have been playing Prologue back in bumper cam so I might just stay that way. If I find myself in a premium that I intend on driving a lot I would likley go to cockpit view but as of now I am back to bumper cam so I don't really care anymore.

As for dammage I don't really care. When you race well you shouldn't be getting any anyway and If there was no dmg it wouldn't bother me.

 

[Wads]

With so many pages on this thread I haven't a clue whats going on now..... could somebody please answer a hopefully simple question.

In the UK when I pre-order the standard price copy of GT5 from Amazon (I pre ordered it nearly two years ago!) what am I going to get?..... do I get a full copy of the game with 1000 cars and all tracks or is it a bare bones offering that needs "premium" downloaded content?

The only mention I can find on Amazon about a special version is the Signature Edition (stupidly expensive) and a £60 version that seems to be the same as the standard one with addition of half a dozen chrome line cars.

HELP!!!!

 

[Khaddar]

do I get a full copy of the game with 1000 cars and all tracks or is it a bare bones offering that needs "premium" downloaded content?

Yes, you do Other than "special" versions of a few cars which you've spotted, the £60 version also includes a book and some postcards - nothing at all that you need to play and enjoy the game.

 

[Wads]

Thanks for the quick reply.... but not sure which of the two options you are saying is standard.... the 1000 cars or a cut down version that needs downloaded content.

Sorry being slow today!!!

 

[infamousDee]

Who are you again? Poor infamous gets the beat down in the Forza section, so he heads to the GT section to pull the same stunts. Gotta love it.

Unlike you, I can actually sit here and observe the obvious without having my conscience beat me round the head with an erotic toy dubbed "Gran Turismo 5" or "Forza Motorsport 3" every time I read a post criticising either game. I really don't see where you're coming from when you claim I suffered a "beat down" in that topic. It would take a sad, sad person to become upset concerning something they read on the internet. People are entitled to their own opinions, although you don't seem to appreciate that, unfortunately.

 

[FlourescentBlak]

do I get a full copy of the game with 1000 cars and all tracks or is it a bare bones offering that needs "premium" downloaded content?HELP!!!!

There are two types of cars in GT5. Standard and Premium.

Premium:
1.1 fully modeled replicas with high and low beams, body panel dammage, and interrior (cockpit) view. Count 200+

Standard:
1 headlight intensity, no cockpit view, only dents and scratches for dammage. Pretty much past GT cars that have been redone. Count 800+

 

[Bogie 19th]

People are entitled to their own opinions, although you don't seem to appreciate that, unfortunately.

Yes we are entitled to our opinions. And once you learn to understand and comprehend that, maybe you would have a little credibility around here one one day.

Anyway, back on topic, will Standard and Premium have any affect on the leader boards?

 

[Khaddar]

Thanks for the quick reply.... but not sure which of the two options you are saying is standard.... the 1000 cars or a cut down version that needs downloaded content.

Sorry being slow today!!!

Sorry, I didn't notice that I quoted both options! You get all the cars and all the tracks, all the online racing, all the other features like weather and night racing, everything except a few special edition cars and a book

As FluorescentBlak pointed out, there are two types of car (standard and premium, which are the focus of this thread really) but all editions of the game include all of them.

 

[Negativo]

Yes we are entitled to our opinions. And once you learn to understand and comprehend that, maybe you would have a little credibility around here one one day.

Anyway, back on topic, will Standard and Premium have any affect on the leader boards?

Why would they? they're still cars son.

 

[Wads]

Sorry, I didn't notice that I quoted both options! You get all the cars and all the tracks, all the online racing, all the other features like weather and night racing, everything except a few special edition cars and a book

As FluorescentBlak pointed out, there are two types of car (standard and premium, which are the focus of this thread really) but all editions of the game include all of them.

Thanks all clear now! I had wrongly assumed that the standard Vs premium was refering to the versions of the game not the cars..... having not kept up to date on GT5 for a while and as the start of the thread seems rather vague.

Thanks again!!! 👍

 

[FlourescentBlak]

Also of note. Kaz said from now on any cars implemented into a GT game will be Premium.

That leaves us the question of how often and which old cars will be upgraded to premium vs adding new cars.

Personally I really like 90's cars and would be hoping for 90's cars to get upgraded to premium sooner than later for future GT games via patches or DLC.

Am I the only one who has a thing for 90's cars? I find that recent cars are kind of ugly. I can now appreciate how older car enthusiasts would like "their" classics and the whole taste for whichever music you grew up with.

 

[eSZee]

Your having a laugh again Davey

If I was I'd use a smiley. You, out of all people, should like DRIFT cars.

 

[Bogie 19th]

Why would they? they're still cars son.

I know, I just wasn't sure if there would be any differences performance wise. For example, a premium car would have more wind resistance after being damaged than a standard car that doesn't have damage. So I wasn't sure if they were going to take those type of scenarios into account.

 

[Negativo]

I know, I just wasn't sure if there would be any differences performance wise. For example, a premium car would have more wind resistance after being damaged than a standard car that doesn't have damage. So I wasn't sure if they were going to take those type of scenarios into account.

Would be a shame though, if they weren't premium and standard there wouldnt be this problem.

 

[Negativo]

If I was I'd use a smiley. You, out of all people, should like DRIFT cars.

You out of all people should like HIPPIE buses.

 

[eSZee]

This double post business seems like your specialty.
Stupid jokes as well.

 

[Negativo]

This double post business seems like your specialty.
Stupid jokes as well.

You like the hippie bus and AE86, how unique is that?

 

[JohnBM01]

I was thinking a bit more about this whole Standard vs. Premium deal. So I as I was working on a blog entry last night, I got back to playing [the PS2 version of] Test Drive Unlimited. Just about all the cars are road-going cars with the exception of the racing models. Even on a PlayStation 2, the attention to detail (especially when viewing interiors) is incredible. I got to wondering perhaps if the Standard cars could have been re-mastered to something at least semi-Premium. These models for the PS2's version of Test Drive Unlimited don't have high-quality textures or whatever, but for the attention to detail and immersive detail, TDU is lovely.

So the cars in this game were, if you will, Premium machines for a PS2 racing game. I'd be okay even if there were low-res interiors for Standard cars. Of course, I'm not extremely concerned about interiors. One thing I've learned about Gran Turismo and the people who play this game series is about trying to avoid any kind of disconnect that makes simulation-type racing games great. One of those disconnect factors is that of interior views. You want something believable for interiors because it connects you with the car. Simulators simulate, so certain factors that aren't present in true sim racers often lead to disappointment. I'm a sim racer myself, but I even have my likes and dislikes. I'm more open on a lot of things, which explains why I'm not as bothersome or as antagonistic over the interior deal as most other people. The main point is that I realize the sim racing disconnect that not having every car with believable interiors provides. You can still have a solid racing game even without having certain disconnects featured. After all... we still loved GT1 through GT4 even without damage, right?

One last note... I'm not angered about the whole note of Premium cars actually featuring cars deserving of Premium quality (in other words, machines other than the Premium oddball Volkswagens). If it's one thing I've learned about games, some things are featured just to showcase a game engine's power or the fruits of a development team's labor. Machines like the Nike One in GT4 is a prime example. I don't think there's going to be a real "waste" of cars selected as being Premium quality cars. Also, I don't think Premium means and pertains only to top-of-the-line cars. Is a 1-Series BMW a top-of-the-line car? However many cars are Premium or Standard, to paraphrase Honda motorcycle commercials- "I just wanna drive."

 

[eSZee]

You like the hippie bus and AE86, how unique is that?

Where did I say I like either of them?
These lame attempts are getting a bit stagnant.

 

[finnracer]

I wish some people would just go by Kazunori Yamauchi's words.

 

[FlourescentBlak]

This double post business seems like your specialty.

It's just as easy to edit your first post and it's far superior. I don't understand why anyone ever double posts.

 

[eSZee]

It's just as easy to edit your first post and is far superior. I don't understand why anyone ever double posts.

In my case it's usually by mistake. I forget I just posted a minute or so ago and post again. Not the case for everyone.

 

[Negativo]

Where did I say I like either of them?
These lame attempts are getting a bit stagnant.

Davey , before you cried about my comment, i doubted it would be premium thats all.

 

[analog]

One of those disconnect factors is that of interior views. You want something believable for interiors because it connects you with the car. Simulators simulate, so certain factors that aren't present in true sim racers often lead to disappointment. I'm a sim racer myself, but I even have my likes and dislikes. I'm more open on a lot of things, which explains why I'm not as bothersome or as antagonistic over the interior deal as most other people. The main point is that I realize the sim racing disconnect that not having every car with believable interiors provides. You can still have a solid racing game even without having certain disconnects featured. After all... we still loved GT1 through GT4 even without damage, right?

If this is aimed to persuade people like me to disregard their beloved interior or cockpit view and switch to a more "realistic" or "proper sim" option then I'm sorry for not being persuaded one bit.
This whole argument isn't unfortunately a poll for which view you prefer or which view is more realistic, accurate or even sensible to use.
It isn't even a choice or decision on the majority of cars in GT5 to use cockpit view or not.
If it were, I wouldn't mind that people would argue which viewpoint is more realistic or even the inaccuracy of the interior view in itself, and wouldn't mind one bit which view the others would use themselves for whatever reason.
Point is that those who do use cockpit view aren't persuaded by arguments which are in this context quite irrelevant and frankly pointless ( at least I'm not ).
If I like a certain feature, and deem it realistic or perceive it to be for whatever reason ( even when it strictly isn't but then no view is fully realistic in a videogame ) then I won't be persuaded to perceive it otherwise simply for it being absent.
I'm forced to change my preferred viewpoint to a previous one on those cars which haven't got that viewpoint, it would be foolish to change your opinion and preference purely based on it not being available.
It would not only be foolish but an easy escape route ( despite probably needing some comprehensive mindbending ) to convince yourself that it isn't realistic and therefore you shouldn't like it.
You already have your subjective realistic option on all cars, I haven't got my subjective realistic option on all cars, that's the difference ( not whether one is more objectively realistic than the other ).

 

[SlipZtrEm]

As for dammage I don't really care. When you race well you shouldn't be getting any anyway and If there was no dmg it wouldn't bother me.

Isn't this kind of the same argument as people saying they'll never get in an accident in real life because they're good drivers?

I wish it were true, but sadly, I'm pretty sure anybody who ever races online is going to witness the damage model first-hand, intentionally or not (unless they only ever race in races with it turned off). People make mistakes occasionally, and there's always the little ram-happy kids.

In addition to a different damage model and headlight situation, we also don't know yet if the Standards enjoy the same level of customization (in the sense of body parts, bodykits, and race mods) as Premium.

Davey , before you cried about my comment, i doubted it would be premium thats all.

Why does this thread seem to attract more than its fair share of trolls?

 

[Devedander]

It's just as easy to edit your first post and it's far superior. I don't understand why anyone ever double posts.

Quite often I come across a post I want to respond to, do it while the thought is fresh, then read through a few more posts, spot another I want to respond to, hit quote so it's quoted for ease of reading with the intention of copy pasting it into my previuos post instead of actually posting, edit and type my reply but then muscle memory kicks in and I just hit reply... then too late.

Most forums I go to auto merge two posts within a few minutes and nothing between so it's not something I usually have to even think about...

 

[FlourescentBlak]

The muscle memory of clicking post is the best reason I have yet to come across.

My muscle memory is geared to click links to navigate pages and search out the edit button which I might use 2-5 times per post.

In short I am geared to edit vs post.

 

[eSZee]

Davey , before you cried about my comment, i doubted it would be premium thats all.

You might want to re-read what I wrote. I said the AE86 is a japanese icon so it would most likely be premium.

 

[Negativo]

You might want to re-read what I wrote. I said the AE86 is a japanese icon so it would most likely be premium.

Thats what i doubted...

 

[Devedander]

The muscle memory of clicking post is the best reason I have yet to come across.

My muscle memory is geared to click links to navigate pages and search out the edit button which I might use 2-5 times per post.

In short I am geared to edit vs post.

I usually edit many times too... the thing is when you come across someones post you want to respond to in multiple quotes (it break it apart and respond to each paragraph individually) it's easiest to hit reply so it's all ready to go, then type it out. At this point you should copy it, then back out, edit your original post, paste in the now typed up stuff and complete your reply.

In this case my muscle memory does what I do dozens of times a day in differnet forums which is just click reply as soon as I am done type... inveitably I remember 1 second after clicking it, I am at GTP where I should have done otherwise.