Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"

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What would you have rather had PD do about "premium" vs. "standard" cars

  • Keep everthing the same

    Votes: 324 19.1%
  • Release the game later with all the cars "premium"

    Votes: 213 12.6%
  • Not do "premium" cars at all but focus on other features i.e. dynamic weather

    Votes: 134 7.9%
  • DLC packs after the release

    Votes: 844 49.8%
  • Wished PD didn't get are hopes up, lol

    Votes: 180 10.6%

  • Total voters
    1,695
There are two types of cars in GT5. Standard and Premium.

Premium:
1.1 fully modeled replicas with high and low beams, body panel dammage, and interrior (cockpit) view. Count 200+

Standard:
1 headlight intensity, no cockpit view, only dents and scratches for dammage. Pretty much past GT cars that have been redone. Count 800+

Only thing they may have "redone" was how reflections work, they did use the GT4 full 3d wheels in game as opposed to in the menus and photomode.
 
I have a feeling this thread will some how still be alive after GT5.

As long as forza exist this thread will exist,after all is just part of the PS3 vs 360 war which seems to be like the second world war of the consoles,the first WW of the consoles was nintendo vs atari,and you already know who won that,this war will not have and end (dramatic sighs ...).

Not to mention other conflicts like:

-sega vs nintendo
-atari vs sega vs nintendo
-PS1 vs N64 vs Dreamcast(that will be the most beloved causality of a console war,if they launch I buy a dreamcast 2 right away)
-PS2 vs Dreamcast vs Xbox original (I owned them all)
-and PS3 vs 360

and there is another incoming 3DS vs PSP2,lets see what they offer
(sorry a bit of topic there).
 
As long as forza exist this thread will exist,after all is just part of the PS3 vs 360 war which seems to be like the second world war of the consoles,the first WW of the consoles was nintendo vs atari,and you already know who won that,this war will not have and end (dramatic sighs ...).

Not to mention other conflicts like:

-sega vs nintendo
-atari vs sega vs nintendo
-PS1 vs N64 vs Dreamcast(that will be the most beloved causality of a console war,if they launch I buy a dreamcast 2 right away)
-PS2 vs Dreamcast vs Xbox original (I owned them all)
-and PS3 vs 360

and there is another incoming 3DS vs PSP2,lets see what they offer
(sorry a bit of topic there).

This is different than those examples in that premium vs standard are not competitors, they are 2 parts to the same side. We know standard cars are inferior to premium, we just want to know how much.
 
There's nothing wrong with a good old fashioned console war or game rivalry. Especially if the one made by a monopoly doesn't win. By the way, I'm there if a Dreamcast 2 shows up.

Anyway, once again having spent a bunch of time in the relentless News thread, I'm not seeing very much angst at all over the Standards. I think the bad mood over them has mostly withered. Now it seems it's nervous anticipation. Even Bogie 19 is gushing over "that new game smell." :lol:
 
Microsoft has a monopoly in the gaming console market?
Otherwise why would you bring in an aspect of their business that isn't relevant to this discussion?
 
Microsoft has a monopoly in the gaming console market?
Otherwise why would you bring in an aspect of their business that isn't relevant to this discussion?

Dave, you forgot to spell it "Micro$oft"!

Heh.

I don't see how Forza existing has anything to do with this thread continuing to exist post-release. There will be the new members who come in who haven't followed the progress, wondering why their Countach is Standard while a little Fiat 500 is Premium. Heck, we already have people complaining about that!
 
M$ hasn't been to court for monopolizing the console or music markets, no. But you might check up on other court appearances... ;)

I have a feeling some of you might cringe at this post.
 
Anyway, once again having spent a bunch of time in the relentless News thread, I'm not seeing very much angst at all over the Standards. I think the bad mood over them has mostly withered. Now it seems it's nervous anticipation. Even Bogie 19 is gushing over "that new game smell." :lol:

I think people just want the game TD. I know I do.:)
 
Microsoft far from has a monopoly in the computer games market. Even with PC games (Which only run on their operating system, has little to do with Microsoft itself).

However, the Video games market can be described as Monopolistic, meaning that a small few firms control near 100% of the market share. Currently, Nintendo is winning ^^

This thread has gone a bit off topic though guys, don't you think? Are we bored of putting forward the same arguments over and over yet? :D
 
M$ hasn't been to court for monopolizing the console or music markets, no. But you might check up on other court appearances... ;)

I have a feeling some of you might cringe at this post.

Sony is just as guilty as Microsoft(please stop spelling it with a "$", unless you are a 12 year old). For instance they made CD's that could only be played on certain "approved" players(known as DRM). There is also the whole "Other OS" thing, the Dualshock situation a few years ago. Along with hundreds of other that I can't remember this second.

Basically, big companies are all corrupt.

Anyways: As long as standards don't look terrible I will be fine with them.
 
And Europe.



Seriously? I thought the whole M$ and $ony thing was funny.....20 years ago. 👎

Well that is overall sales over the lifespan of the console. PS3 has outsold the 360 in every region this year (so far), and last year.
 
Well that is overall sales over the lifespan of the console. PS3 has outsold the 360 in every region this year (so far), and last year.

If you take it by units sold per month (or any specific time period), the PS3 has outsold the 360 everywhere.

But the Wii has outsold them both, and the DS has outsold that etc. etc.
 
Wii,then PS3,then 360 in Europe,I read that in a magazine a couple of months ago,Its a shame that "The real Mario kart simulator" doesn't exist.

Well that is overall sales over the lifespan of the console. PS3 has outsold the 360 in every region this year (so far), and last year.

The 360 leads in Europe and North America. In fact, as of 9/16, they are still they are the best selling one there now.

http://twitter.com/majornelson
For the third month in a row, Xbox 360 is the #1 selling console in North America.about 10 hours ago via TweetDeck

And based on sell-through data, we are currently the #1 selling console across Europe as well.about 10 hours ago via TweetDeck

The PS3 leads in Japan and all the territories of PAL combined.
 
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The 360 leads in Europe and North America. In fact, as of 9/16, they are still they are the best selling one there now.



The PS3 leads in Japan and all the territories of PAL combined.

Only because the 360 had a FULL YEAR to sell without the PS3 even being on shelves. However if you compare the total sales of both consoles since the release of the PS3 the PS3 has sold ~ 1.6 million more units than the 360.
 
OK, back on track guys. This has nothing to do with the topic!

I am curious on what excactly the difference between standard and premium will be, how the "damage" will be felt on standard. I guess they will be mechanical for sure? Because they will not be physical, we have ruled that out?
 
The PS3 overtook 360 sales in Europe about four months ago.

Even more impressive is the fact that it released a year later than the 360!

Keep telling yourself that 👍

But yes, back on topic....

I thought Kaz had said you will have all the mechanical damage on the standard cars, so that shouldn't be any worry.
 
Keep telling yourself that 👍

But yes, back on topic....

I thought Kaz had said you will have all the mechanical damage on the standard cars, so that shouldn't be any worry.

According to VGChartz (which is the best reference we have PS3 is ahead by 60k in Europe for TOTAL hardware sales.

Link: http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly.php?reg=Others

Your proof?

On Topic: This thread needs to die already. There isn't a single area of this subject that hasn't been covered MULTIPLE times.
 
Nah mods wont let this thread die,they just simply wont because the whole whining about standard vs premium and FM vs GT its content here,if they eliminate this thread there just will be a lot of spamming all over the place,that's why this thread wont die,since the FM vs GT died the week after its creation the fight had to be dragged somewhere,including trolling.

"Its better to contain a virus that let it spread"(umbrella corp.)
 
I would think upon game release, people will then have their own hands on experience with this issue and this thread will then become very much alive in comparing quality, differences in the physics engines & other issues between the two classes that might not have been debated yet. :)
 
Well for all the negativity displayed in and about this thread it at least still is the sole place where this issue can be discussed indepth instead of it infiltrating each unrelated topic in other threads.
It's proven to be insightful to me on some occasions and can still provide it to those wanting to find out more I guess if they can be bothered to dig through all opinions and filter out the relevant stuff.
If not, it can still be the place to ask questions or ventilate your opinion about this subject and its implications.
I do agree that most relevant issues have already been discussed and all possible opinions probably already heard perhaps but why should it therefore have to "die"?
I think this thread will actually survive at least until GT6 ( yes GT6 ) arrives as a lot of new members will probably revive it once GT5 is released.
It won't die ( unless it's locked for whatever reason ) anytime soon is my prediction, as the issue won't magically disappear once we witness it in the game for better or worse.
It's a lingering beast possibly on life-support for a while, but it will be back if it ever went away that is ( which it won't I believe ).
 
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