Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"
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Its top dollar dude, I've been spending a lot of time on rFactor since going to full clubsport metal pedals lately though. Might well make a return to FM3 online soon enough...
Hope all is well with you bud.
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********, he just quoted an email from a gtplanet member.
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There were several sources from the last week (since E3), including KY itself, that hinted (more than that if you ask me) the absence of cockpit view.
Your expectations of having an cockpit view similar to GTPSP is something that KY mentioned in a tweeter interviem as "technically possible", apparently after questioned about the absence of that point of view in standard cars. My reading of it is that if we are getting this that's a confirmation that the game was set to be release without cockpit view in standard cars and that was a "last minute solution" they came up with to rest things a little.
My issue has always been with the two tiers of quality. I'm also really, really surprised that people can say, with a straight face, that GT4 Standard models look better than most of this generation's other racing game's car models. Premium? Absolutely. But Standard looks as old as they actually are.
...it's a bit saddening that the R8 LMS car is going to be Standard, while the street R8 is Premium
I congratulate your capability of impartial analysis. Seriously, no irony involved.
You would be surprised with what some people are willing to defend around here, as long as it bears a PD and a GT logo, and was conceived by Kazunori Yamauchi. Even if it was a roll of brand new toilette paper.
My initial expectations, due to Prologue's visual quality, and all the fuzz PD created around the premium vehicles was precisely that standard cars in GT5 would be of a similar quality as Prologue's, including their interiors. Honestly, considering the series reputation, that is pretty much the minimum you'd expect graphically-wise. A solution like that that Splitztrem seems to find acceptable to me is a complete decrease on the standards settled by Gran Tursmo.
I'm not an Italian speaker but I roughly can understand written text in Italian. Basically is a report about the "news" fromiGameReport, and taking them as confirmed - without actually checking its accuracy in any other source.
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What one would this come under?
http://static.gamesradar.com/images...reens/final_granturismo501--article_image.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images...reens/final_granturismo501--article_image.jpg
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I am Italian, this article http://next.videogame.it/gran-turismo-5/88362/
is just reporting what we have already read on http://igamereport.com/,
next.videogame.it doesn't know anything more than igamereport.com, they have just read that article and translated that content in italian.
Gt5 cars are not only upscaled, but have better 3d models, and will have cockpits. Nothing new, until we are sure that we can trust igamereport
is just reporting what we have already read on http://igamereport.com/,
next.videogame.it doesn't know anything more than igamereport.com, they have just read that article and translated that content in italian.
Gt5 cars are not only upscaled, but have better 3d models, and will have cockpits. Nothing new, until we are sure that we can trust igamereport
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Why don't WE all contact PD?
How is it done, though?
How is it done, though?
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Polyphony Digital don't have an E-Mail adress, they had a press inquiry form you could fill out for requests, but that's gone too. You need to contact Sony or write PD a letter.
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Good question, I mean the part which asks how is it done, I guess if communication was that easy Jordan ( or any other GT-Planet authority ) would've probably already contacted PD to clarify.
Even with Kaz acknowledging GT-Planet existing ( and claiming to like it, although that could just be him being polite I guess ) it seems harder than it would logically needed ( or at least desired ) to be.
I check PD web site, there is no email address,but it does have a phone number(in Japan of course)do you want it?
Wrooooooooooooong. A 150,000 polygon car model with good textures is still a 150,000 polygon car model with good textures, no matter what the framerate or graphics engine is like. It could be a silky smooth 60fps or it could be a 2fps slideshow; the car model quality WILL NOT CHANGE. The car models are completely independent; it is up to the graphics engine to render them quickly, and that is NOT the discussion at hand (and if GT5s premium cars can run at 60fps, Shift's models wouldn't have any problem doing so in a better engine). We're talking about car model quality, not graphics engines. Does anybody else here actually understand how 3D models and graphics engines work? This is getting old, having to explain to everyone the difference.
There's only 5 months left. The main development is basically over. The game still has to go through many weeks of QA testing and bug tweaking. Little or nothing will be done to the models.
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translation of italian article about standards cars: http://next.videogame.it/gran-turismo-5/88362/
after all the e3 polemics about gt' cars hybrid roster (800 taken from previous gt and 200 created for the game), igamereport contacted PD to have information about the cars. Only premium cars will have all the details showed in videos and images, however the differences might be minimal.
developers said that all cars will have interiors and a high detail: the only difference is the fact that the most of the cars are improved 3d models not built from scratch. However every model will have its own inner visual from the cockpit with related animated hud and so on.
(my english is not good.. so sorry for mistakes)
after all the e3 polemics about gt' cars hybrid roster (800 taken from previous gt and 200 created for the game), igamereport contacted PD to have information about the cars. Only premium cars will have all the details showed in videos and images, however the differences might be minimal.
developers said that all cars will have interiors and a high detail: the only difference is the fact that the most of the cars are improved 3d models not built from scratch. However every model will have its own inner visual from the cockpit with related animated hud and so on.
(my english is not good.. so sorry for mistakes)
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I see alot of people talking about the camaro,stingray and the challenger as standard cars.These are not standard cars.In the E3 2010 Demo there where premium and not standard.The versions in the Standard Cars Trailer are different models of the car.And also the challenger was never in Gran Turismo 4 or 3 or GTPSP.Only in Gran Turismo 2.Please correct me if i am wrong.
Correct, they apparently have the same cars in both standard and premium versions, which makes me think (and hope) the races will be separated.
I have watched the trailer on my PS3 that is connected to 37" TV. I found something interesting. Every Standard car has a visible driver inside. He even moves his head. Driver model seems the same as in Premium models. You can clearly see the driver in Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale, Alpine A110 1600S and Lancia Stratos.
The photo is kinda blurry...
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That's a very good spot, thanks! I really do hope there's something they're not showing us, but I'm also not gonna hold my breath.
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Don't you think that some of the cars in the Gran Turismo PSP intro could be the Gran Turismo 5 standard cars?
What one would this come under?
http://static.gamesradar.com/images...reens/final_granturismo501--article_image.jpg
That's DEFINITELY a premium model, duh!
It still doesn't make any sense to me, though, that they couldn't just make the few minor mesh changes between the Z28/SS Camaro or the Coupe/Vert Corvette etc so we could have more premiums.
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The fact that standards cars will show damage and roll-over gives me much reason to believe PD has added cockpits to them, too.
Otherwise, that's begging for serious criticism.
Otherwise, that's begging for serious criticism.
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So I'm guessing that Australian site that 'confirms' cockpits on all cars is not reliable then?
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No doubt im pretty sure we will have cockpit view for the standard cars.
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The "damage" will be done through texture work and the physics have nothing to do with the 3D model itself, while a cockpit either has to be made like in GTPSP, or modeled from scratch.
Exactly.
no and personally I will only trust:
Sony's web page(any language)
Gran turismo web page
kotaku
gamespot
or any tweets from KY
ign(maybe but they are like own by Microsoft so not so trustable)
I just hope that kotaku English get an answer from PD or Sony
http://kotaku.com/5568886/gran-turismo-5-weather-go+karting-and-track-editor-confirmed
