Yuppie Liberal Baby Names
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I had assumed he was being sarcastic, since I used both the words 'most' and 'boys'.
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Lovely useless thread.
Excuse me for having a cousin named Jacob, which is a fine name. It's a Bible name, plain and simple. So it's a lot older than "Douglas" (which I may start calling you now out of the point of this thread), and thus hardly a dishonor if you are Judeo-Chrisitian in belief. There are plenty of other Bible names like Boaz, Ezekial, Lot, or Abel that they could have used, but Jacob has a nice ring to it. Even if everyone calls him Jake.
As per your "old" list of names, what a boring list of commonplace names. They just smack of originality, don't they?
Don't reply to me or I shall taunt you a second time!
And just for that, I'm going to name my kid Ayrton.
Douglas!
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I've been thinking about this thread more, and have to come to the conclusion that to infer somebody's political inclinations based on what they've named their children is very ignorant. There are much better ways to do it, so why drag the defensless children into it?
Although I vaguely understand the stereotype, I think names come in and out as fads just like everything else. Every single name had to have been made up at some time, probably derived from some other utterance attached to a significant concept.
I picture a stelae in some ancient land that condemns the name John or Mark as foo-foo drivel, a mere fad. Things change, including names, and new ones will be made. I rather respect the idea of trying to set one's child apart by endowing them with a memorable identifier.
If we're still going to name our kids from an approximately 8000 year old book (old testament), I see no reason to redline certain ones while permiting others. And frankly, I think it's time to come up with some new stuff, and not only in names. But it's a start in the right direction.
Although I vaguely understand the stereotype, I think names come in and out as fads just like everything else. Every single name had to have been made up at some time, probably derived from some other utterance attached to a significant concept.
I picture a stelae in some ancient land that condemns the name John or Mark as foo-foo drivel, a mere fad. Things change, including names, and new ones will be made. I rather respect the idea of trying to set one's child apart by endowing them with a memorable identifier.
If we're still going to name our kids from an approximately 8000 year old book (old testament), I see no reason to redline certain ones while permiting others. And frankly, I think it's time to come up with some new stuff, and not only in names. But it's a start in the right direction.
I totally agree, which is why I love neon_duke's daughter's name, Allegheny. But my problem with that name would come when the entire country began using the name 'Allegheny,' because it would lose its originality and therefore its flair. Which is clearly what's happened with Madison, Alexis, Taylor, etc.
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Bah, it felt good to rant.
But you haven't even scrtached the surface of mis-spelled names. It's one thing to have a name's spelling changed because the letter doesn't occur in your alphabet:
Katherine (Greek in origin) and Catherine (Anglicized), for example.
But it's quite grating when I saw a credit card and proper identification with "Joshua" spelled "Josshuah". I wanted to puke.
What also gets me is that you assume that it's only "yuppie liberals" (does either word have any meaning anymore?) that do this. Hardly the case. I've met many a mis-spelled name or bizzarely-chosen appellation bestowed upon an unsuspecting child.
Trends, that's what names are. Do you really think there are that many Adolfs born since 1945 in the world today?
But you haven't even scrtached the surface of mis-spelled names. It's one thing to have a name's spelling changed because the letter doesn't occur in your alphabet:
Katherine (Greek in origin) and Catherine (Anglicized), for example.
But it's quite grating when I saw a credit card and proper identification with "Joshua" spelled "Josshuah". I wanted to puke.
What also gets me is that you assume that it's only "yuppie liberals" (does either word have any meaning anymore?) that do this. Hardly the case. I've met many a mis-spelled name or bizzarely-chosen appellation bestowed upon an unsuspecting child.
Trends, that's what names are. Do you really think there are that many Adolfs born since 1945 in the world today?
!!Well, we all know that during the '60's and '70's, liberals -- hippies, namely -- gave their kids impossibly weird names. One that comes to mind is olympic skiier Picaboo Street. Frankly, I find it hard to believe that a conservative man and wife would ever name their child, children 'Alexis' or 'Madsion.' They stick with John.
Perhaps, in Germany. I'm not sure how many Adolfs were ever born in this country.
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Yeah, almost as ignorant as insulting someone based on their political views, which happens way too often. Unfortunately, we may soon see persecution based on views too. Too bad we don't have more level headed people like you around.
Too bad you'll be called a 'pinko liberal' for thinking this way, though...
AND yes, of course this was a 'joke', but a bad one.
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Was this the point? I missed that one in the original post.
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Well I think that naming children is a very hard thing to do. I've been saddled with a relatively unfortunate second middle name due to family history, and it's not funny. Remember, that whatever you call your kid, they have to live with for at least the first sixteen years of their life (which is by far the most traumatising time to have a rubbish name).
So you have to cope with the family pressures. And then you can't name a baby after any of your exes (so there goes Rebecca, which is a real shame), or after any of your friends, or their kids (Helen, Leanne, Sarah, Chris, Alan, James, Jennifer). It's a nightmare.
You absolutely have to steer clear of 'fashion' names (Kylie, Keanu, Brad) too. I heard a fishwive screaming "Keanu! KEANU!!" in a shop the other day, and some 15 year old kid loped over. Felt sorry for him for being named after a guy whose only decent movie was like 3 years ago.
It's a tough job. Congrats to Neon_Duke for choosing something original, even if many people don't know how to pronounce it. Which is something I'm familiar with, having a sister called Islay.
So you have to cope with the family pressures. And then you can't name a baby after any of your exes (so there goes Rebecca, which is a real shame), or after any of your friends, or their kids (Helen, Leanne, Sarah, Chris, Alan, James, Jennifer). It's a nightmare.
You absolutely have to steer clear of 'fashion' names (Kylie, Keanu, Brad) too. I heard a fishwive screaming "Keanu! KEANU!!" in a shop the other day, and some 15 year old kid loped over. Felt sorry for him for being named after a guy whose only decent movie was like 3 years ago.
It's a tough job. Congrats to Neon_Duke for choosing something original, even if many people don't know how to pronounce it. Which is something I'm familiar with, having a sister called Islay.
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I told Kathy to name our girl (when there is one!) when the time comes, and I get to ratify it. She already has the not-a-chance-in-hell list of girl's names (my ex-girlfriends, female co-workers, most relatives, bizzare names we discussed over a pot of coffee).
The process is reversed on the boy's name. Same list as planned, but I'm not really going for Aryton...Stirling, maybe! But I'm sure family pressure will dictate a Biblical name.
And one other nutty thing...naming your kid after yourself! Fine for middle names, but atrocious for little boys to get named after their father! The boy will likely take on all the bad impressions of the father if that happens, some head-shrinkers say.
So there will be no Joshua II (the Electric Boogaloo) in my household until I'm dead.
The process is reversed on the boy's name. Same list as planned, but I'm not really going for Aryton...Stirling, maybe! But I'm sure family pressure will dictate a Biblical name.
And one other nutty thing...naming your kid after yourself! Fine for middle names, but atrocious for little boys to get named after their father! The boy will likely take on all the bad impressions of the father if that happens, some head-shrinkers say.
So there will be no Joshua II (the Electric Boogaloo) in my household until I'm dead.
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Well, speaking as George Anthony W... Jr, and George A. W... the 5th or 6th, I can tell you I have very few of my father's vices, let alone my grandfather's. I can say with assurance that had we produced a boy, we would have named him George Anthony, since my father-in-law's name is Anthony as well. Like me he probably would have had a nickname from infancy, but the given name would have been an heirloom.
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Now, if we're talking about awful names in general, I've met some deusies in person.
For instance, Bill Lear, of Lear Jet fame, named his daughter Chanda. I've met her, and she's pretty good about it, but you can tell she was glad to get married and change her last name.
I also knew a girl (friends of my parents) whose parents named hter Ona Kai Lynn Anderson, after a vacation in Hawaii (they are as white and European-descended as Wonderbread).
I also knew a little girl who was named (I thought) Orion, which was how her parents pronunced it. I thought that was kind of cool for a girl's name until I saw it written down as Aryan. They had been mispronouncing it for years and had no idea what that word meant, with the strong negative connotations involved.
And don't get me started on completely made-up 'ethnocentric' names. That's too hard a subject to deal with civilly, and impossible to discuss without sounding bigotted (which truly I am not).
For instance, Bill Lear, of Lear Jet fame, named his daughter Chanda. I've met her, and she's pretty good about it, but you can tell she was glad to get married and change her last name.
I also knew a girl (friends of my parents) whose parents named hter Ona Kai Lynn Anderson, after a vacation in Hawaii (they are as white and European-descended as Wonderbread).
I also knew a little girl who was named (I thought) Orion, which was how her parents pronunced it. I thought that was kind of cool for a girl's name until I saw it written down as Aryan. They had been mispronouncing it for years and had no idea what that word meant, with the strong negative connotations involved.
And don't get me started on completely made-up 'ethnocentric' names. That's too hard a subject to deal with civilly, and impossible to discuss without sounding bigotted (which truly I am not).
