Zeta News 2.0: New VF Commodore and Chevrolet SS
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Fresh Chevy news from SEMA:
Camaro SSX Concept @ SEMA
Same treatment has been given to Corvette Z06, dubbed Z06X, but who cares about that.
Camaro SSX Concept @ SEMA
Same treatment has been given to Corvette Z06, dubbed Z06X, but who cares about that.
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Well it could be like the C3's of the late 70's/early 80's!
The heaviest c3s weighed 3595 lbs (1978 curb weight) but the last c3 to have 350 bhp was the 1970 350\350 hp and 350\370 hp lt-1 small blocks and the 1971 454\365 hp Ls5 and the 454\425 hp Ls6 big blocks. All of those engines were rated in gross hp.
The Corvette didn`t reach 350 hp again until the zr-1 came in 1990 with 375 net hp. The base engine reached 350 hp in 2001. The Callaway twin turbo Corvettes offered 382 hp in 1988 but those weren`t built by GM, but they were sold by Corvette dealers. The 1984 Corvette had a curb weight of 3200 lbs.
Those late c3s are heavy and underpowered and most of them have slushboxes, but they are still very fun to drive.
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And Now, Straight from the Aussies Mouth...
Holden Commodore Coming to the US as a Chevrolet
I think GM is smart enough to let it happen. The Impala is due to run out of steam in 2013, they keep talking about the updates, but it seems like a waste of time and money when you have something so good readily available, and pretty much completely approved for the US market to begin with. The Malibu is big enough for replacing the Impala, let the Commodore (Caprice? Impala? Chevelle?) take the top-spot.
Plus, Chevrolet could always do an XFE/Eco model to keep the greenies happy. Do it with V6 power, a rather tall rear gear, cut some weight inside and out, low-resistance tires, the fancy aero kit from the Cruze. It'll do.
Holden Commodore Coming to the US as a Chevrolet
I think GM is smart enough to let it happen. The Impala is due to run out of steam in 2013, they keep talking about the updates, but it seems like a waste of time and money when you have something so good readily available, and pretty much completely approved for the US market to begin with. The Malibu is big enough for replacing the Impala, let the Commodore (Caprice? Impala? Chevelle?) take the top-spot.
Plus, Chevrolet could always do an XFE/Eco model to keep the greenies happy. Do it with V6 power, a rather tall rear gear, cut some weight inside and out, low-resistance tires, the fancy aero kit from the Cruze. It'll do.
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Good on' em. About time, too. It's the car they should have built the G8 as in the first place.
Impala will work well...what I'd hope too is that, if Ford plays along, we could adopt the V8 Supercars formula in some series...Partner it with NASCAR's Grand Am or something.
Impala will work well...what I'd hope too is that, if Ford plays along, we could adopt the V8 Supercars formula in some series...Partner it with NASCAR's Grand Am or something.
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I wouldn't bank on Ford bringing a RWD sedan over here anytime soon. With the AWD/FWD Taurus, Ford has what nearly all full-size sedan buyers want. However, I think this would be a cool alternative to the Charger/300.
However, there is also the Lacrosse. I wouldn't be surprised if GM decided to use that platform for a big Chevy over the Zeta. Doing a bit of research, it looks like the Malibu, Impala and Park Avenue will all be on the Epsilon II or Super Epsilon platform. It makes be curious as to what this Chevy sedan will be.
However, there is also the Lacrosse. I wouldn't be surprised if GM decided to use that platform for a big Chevy over the Zeta. Doing a bit of research, it looks like the Malibu, Impala and Park Avenue will all be on the Epsilon II or Super Epsilon platform. It makes be curious as to what this Chevy sedan will be.
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Please bring it over here and please call it the Chevelle!
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I know I would look forward to some kind of contest between the rumored "Super" SHO, Charger R/T and Chevrolet Lumina (for the lack of a better name). Each caters to a pretty specific crowd, having their own specific set of strengths and weaknesses. The only complaints I ever really remember about the G8 had to do with the interior, and I think that's an easy fix if GM wants to do it right for Chevrolet.
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Rumormill: 2013 Super Sport Pretty Much a Certainty, Ute and Wagon to Follow?
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It's been reported on quite a bit the past few weeks, the "SS" name popping up in more places than are worth counting. Nevertheless, we're getting our civilian version of the Caprice PPV with a 400+ BHP V8, and a 300+ BHP V6 to follow.
Even better news?
When the next-generation Zeta platform shows up for the 2015 model year, we might get the Ute and Wagon as production moves to the US. Time will tell with what the market will like and what it won't.
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I'm actually somewhat surprised that they're looking to do the Ute now that we're getting the global Colorado. The wagon, however, seems like a smart move, particularly as people move away from sport utilities and crossovers.
I had been under the impression that Zeta was dead after this model run, I'm surprised they're giving it a refresh. Interesting that the Camaro, ATS and CTS will be on Alpha while the Commodore, Ute, SS and Park Avenue will ride on Zeta II.
Price a Ute right, and I'm interested. Definitely, definitely interested.
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Not to be mean, but why are we supposed to believe any of this this time? Because GM has said all of this before, and went a lot farther in development with them than they are at this point before pulling the plug (to the extent that they probably had the Utes on the boat en route and turned them back around to Australia).
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I'm not sure what they're doing. If production is moving to North America, it'll be a lot easier to make the cars for less and produce a wide variety of variants for a lot less money. Thing is, the Ute and Wagon wouldn't show up until we get a new version of the Zeta chassis, and there is no way of knowing how different it'll actually be. My guess? Aluminum construction, and a few other small design changes. If weight is the issue, that'll be what they fix.
...All of that being said...
That's coming. With a diesel. I'm not sure why a Ute would make financial sense, unless they decide to do one as a GMC, and the other as a Chevy.
The wagon? Sure. That I could see selling in some decent numbers. Before Chrysler gave up the ghost, I saw quite a few Magnums around here. There is a demand for full-size wagons, it just isn't that big.
The money will be made on PPVs. That's for sure. We'll see what they do.
...All of that being said...
That's coming. With a diesel. I'm not sure why a Ute would make financial sense, unless they decide to do one as a GMC, and the other as a Chevy.
The wagon? Sure. That I could see selling in some decent numbers. Before Chrysler gave up the ghost, I saw quite a few Magnums around here. There is a demand for full-size wagons, it just isn't that big.
The money will be made on PPVs. That's for sure. We'll see what they do.
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Does this mean the El Camino is finally coming back?
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God no. Those were vile.
The Ute is coming back to America, though.
Everyday, I wish I could find a G8 or a GTO...
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Now if only ford would jump back on board with a RWD sedan.
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I'm not sure what they're doing. If production is moving to North America, it'll be a lot easier to make the cars for less and produce a wide variety of variants for a lot less money. Thing is, the Ute and Wagon wouldn't show up until we get a new version of the Zeta chassis, and there is no way of knowing how different it'll actually be. My guess? Aluminum construction, and a few other small design changes. If weight is the issue, that'll be what they fix.
...All of that being said...
That's coming. With a diesel. I'm not sure why a Ute would make financial sense, unless they decide to do one as a GMC, and the other as a Chevy.
The wagon? Sure. That I could see selling in some decent numbers. Before Chrysler gave up the ghost, I saw quite a few Magnums around here. There is a demand for full-size wagons, it just isn't that big.
The money will be made on PPVs. That's for sure. We'll see what they do.
I actually like the look of that. I also like it will have a diesel.
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Officially Official: Chevrolet SS Coming for MY2014, Will Replace Impala in NASCAR for 2013 Season
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So, its on the newer VF version of the Holden Commodore which adds a wide variety of subtle enhancements that make the vehicle more fuel-friendly. Lighter weight materials and better aerodynamics all help keep the EPA numbers up to justify the addition to the lineup.
Word has it that import numbers will be well-below the 50K that the Pontiac G8 had, and that the car will be available with only the 6.0L V8. Adding the 6.2L V8 ala the G8 GXP would make more sense in my opinion, but that won't offer the same kind of sales that the standard version would have.
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The Ute was never here, and the El Camino was brilliant. Car-based SUVs are pretty vile, but car-based trucks at at least have a purpose.
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We did have Ute in the states, it that ute is an Australian term for the body style. The El Camino, Ford Ranchero, Dodge Rampage, Subaru BRAT and some others are all ute, but in the states they are called coupe utility.
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I 2nd that. And reserve the SS moniker to the top sport model.
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Unless you get a ticket in Texas, where it is classified by the state, and I wish I still had the ticket for proof, as 'Pick-Up Truck/El Camino'.
I know the new truck will be the Colorado here, and will effectively end the Avalanche's purpose. A good thing as GM is giving the Avie and the Caddy EST the ax. So on this, I say no we STILL don't get a new Elky, although I'd bet if they brought the Maloo over, and renamed it, they would sell. BTW, Mexico does have a ute called the Tornado.
As for the "SS", I don't want it to be the called the Chevelle. What happened when the Charger was finally released and we, the gear heads, saw it. How muc moaning was there on using the name Charger. Name that the Chevelle and we won't hear the end of it for three years, about how long it took to get over the Charger. There IS a better name, and it has been brought up before, when the G8 was introduced and when the G8's future was in question. The solution? I give you the 2014 Chevrolet Caprice.
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If the Colorado is becoming full-size, that's pretty sad. True compact trucks don't really seem to exist anymore, especially the low-cost, zero-luxury versions that only exist to haul things for cheap. You know, the kind Comsumer Reports doesn't like becuase they're too noisy, and too stiff-riding, and they don't have enough electronics.
