- 17,893
- Florida
- GranTurismo0517
- RandomCarGuy17
How about that, we're getting aussie utes now. yay. XD
Eh, I can't believe I even care, I'm not going to be able to afford one. I'm just a blasted college student.
Zeta News 2.0: New VF Commodore and Chevrolet SS
- Thread starter YSSMAN
- 2,379 comments
- 171,808 views
Eh, I can't believe I even care, I'm not going to be able to afford one. I'm just a blasted college student.
- 51,382
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
The G8 was $29999 when it came out. An SS Ute is $6kAUD more than the base & SV6 Utes.
So, if the Chevy SS w/6.2L(415hp) is $47kUSD, a 6-cyl(265hp) Ute could be about $23-24k and 6.0L(370hp) SS Ute could probably sell for around $29k.
In order to under cut the Colorado($20kUSD), that 4-cylinder would have to make its way into the Commodore.
So, if the Chevy SS w/6.2L(415hp) is $47kUSD, a 6-cyl(265hp) Ute could be about $23-24k and 6.0L(370hp) SS Ute could probably sell for around $29k.
In order to under cut the Colorado($20kUSD), that 4-cylinder would have to make its way into the Commodore.
- 51,382
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
Yeah a base 4x2 cab chassis is. If the Commodore had a 4-cylinder, that would bring the price down. There'd also have to be camera delete and a manual option. The Holden Ute could get down to under $30k.
When production ceases, what are young RAAF base workers and Singleton mines workers going to buy? I'm interested to see what GM send over here, if there is going to be a car that is a direct replacement for the Commodore Ute.
When production ceases, what are young RAAF base workers and Singleton mines workers going to buy? I'm interested to see what GM send over here, if there is going to be a car that is a direct replacement for the Commodore Ute.
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
- 21,286
- GR-MI-USA
- YSSMAN
- YSSMAN
I think we'll have a partial answer to that when the assumed four-cylinder Camaro comes out this year.
My guess is that it'll depend on a few things:
1) What GM decides to replace the Commodore with, first
2) If there is a Commodore replacement, what chassis will it be on (Alpha or Omega are the only options at this point)
3) Is there a market for a car-based truck in places outside of Australia
Fair bet is that the SS successor gets a redo on the CT6's Omega chassis, shares a bunch of components with the Buick Avenir - the main difference being the Chevrolet gets a V8, and probably a turbo I4 as a base, and will be shipped off to Australia in the same configuration as the Commodore. Unless the Colorado/Canyon doesn't shake up sales in the US, I don't see GM building a Ute version of the car, they would seem much more likely to keep chasing Hilux sales in Australia with the global version of the Colorado than design an all-new replacement.
My guess is that it'll depend on a few things:
1) What GM decides to replace the Commodore with, first
2) If there is a Commodore replacement, what chassis will it be on (Alpha or Omega are the only options at this point)
3) Is there a market for a car-based truck in places outside of Australia
Fair bet is that the SS successor gets a redo on the CT6's Omega chassis, shares a bunch of components with the Buick Avenir - the main difference being the Chevrolet gets a V8, and probably a turbo I4 as a base, and will be shipped off to Australia in the same configuration as the Commodore. Unless the Colorado/Canyon doesn't shake up sales in the US, I don't see GM building a Ute version of the car, they would seem much more likely to keep chasing Hilux sales in Australia with the global version of the Colorado than design an all-new replacement.
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
- 1,965
- wocsoM
I'd still take the Opel version over the Buick version. OPC much more powerful than GS.
But i'd still drive a 2009 Holden Commodore over those.
IF RUSSIA HAD ONE.
- 17,533
- Corneria City
- Orbital_Goat
Obviously nothing has been confirmed but the rumours point to the next Commodore being based off of the Insignia.
- 51,382
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
Low -slung utes have lost their flavor to BT-50s, Colorados and Hi-Lux. Even V8 Utes are being scrapped in racing for truck-based utes.
Japan would have to start a small pick- up truck revival to make small utes relevant again.
Australia is pretty much at everyones mercy(as far as what we get) from now on. However, Australia still do a fair bit of designing. We'll see what comes from inspiration down here.
Japan would have to start a small pick- up truck revival to make small utes relevant again.
Australia is pretty much at everyones mercy(as far as what we get) from now on. However, Australia still do a fair bit of designing. We'll see what comes from inspiration down here.
- 19,688
- Alabamamania
Ancient legislation that ought to be repealed - there's really no small American trucks anymore. But you know what they say: if you can't compete and don't want to appear like a liberal, go lobby government together and get a law created for your benefit.
Did anyone notice the SS is in its final year, probably because it looks like a Malibu and Impala?
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
The problem with the VF (Chevrolet SS) is that it wasn't as aggressive and brash like the VE (Pontiac G8). I still would like to get myself one, but all I know is that the VF can only show it's aggressiveness through it's engine. I don't even know how they can be mistaken for a Malibu, especially at the rear.
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
- 21,286
- GR-MI-USA
- YSSMAN
- YSSMAN
Only problem with that is the Epsilon II chassis, at least in that form, is too small by comparison. An extended size of the Epsilon II, that sits beneath the Chevrolet Impala and Buick LaCrosse would make more sense, but has much less in a way of potential performance. Realistically, it just seems like an Alpha-based or Omega-based car would work best. Both can be offered in rear or all-wheel-drive, and can be combined with a wide variety of engines. But, knowing that whatever gets the nod will probably be built in the US and sent to Australia, it'll probably depend on currency.
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
- 51,382
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
An excellent way to promote it. I bet Hyundai would invest in Supercars.
I don't mind the insignia. there's just no luxury boat available from Holden/HSV once the Caprice is gone.
- 21,286
- GR-MI-USA
- YSSMAN
- YSSMAN
- 51,382
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/8DFCEFF0BFB567D9CA257E3C0021D7A4
HERE is the car that Holden fans have been simultaneously looking forward to and dreading – the last-ever locally developed, locally manufactured Commodore.
Seen here in Commodore SS guise under secret shakedown testing by Holden engineers, the Commodore VF Series II is due in showrooms towards the end of this year when it will carry General Motors’ Australian manufacturing operation to its scheduled closure in 2017, thus bringing down the curtain on almost seven decades of true-blue Holden large cars.
HERE is the car that Holden fans have been simultaneously looking forward to and dreading – the last-ever locally developed, locally manufactured Commodore.
Seen here in Commodore SS guise under secret shakedown testing by Holden engineers, the Commodore VF Series II is due in showrooms towards the end of this year when it will carry General Motors’ Australian manufacturing operation to its scheduled closure in 2017, thus bringing down the curtain on almost seven decades of true-blue Holden large cars.
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
I have to ask, what caused Holden's plug to be pulled by GM?
