Red-Zone Autoworks (Demonstration Car now out!)
- Thread starter Skygrasper550
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- skygrasper_550--
Twitchy, isn't it?
no.., actually, it has so much grip, i tried all the drifting techniques (feint, e-brake, etc.) but noooooo..., it just has too much grip.., so, onto my last resort!!
wow, thanks for the "unexpected" review..,
as things go here, you can have 1 car request from me.., 
grrr, this can't be happening!! my L4's...,
If I may, I'd like to predict the final score to be
V8: 2 | L4: 1
Unless the Shelby has something special in the cornering department, I have a feeling the MR-2 will eat it.
That said, an early congrats to the V8 team for winning!
damn..,
yeah, EA11R said he would be trying the final duo..,
oh, and uh, here's something that would give you an idea of the final battle.., speaking of cornering, the two are going:
s _ d _ _ a _ s ..,
i'll put them up tomorrow, for sure.., just had a major eye sore and headache.., ugh...too....much.....electronic....tubes (screen).., had to make this log-in quick..,
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- RoJJieE
- mb6roj
- 7,313
- Land of the smelly onion
Thats cool, I may not be able to review them due to the chaos in my house. I don't think I've ever gotten a car s d a s on purpose either.
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So am I going to have to test drive one of your car's first and leave my impression, before I request to have a Honda CRX touge tune? 
- 4,763
- Houston, TX
Alright, I just tested your Evo V tune and I can say that I'm pretty impressed. I ran it stock at the Citta di Aria course and got a 1:50.464. After adding the tune, my lap time fell by six seconds! I noticed that the car has a lot of grip while exiting the corner and it dosent have as much body roll as stock, which is good. For such a mild tune it seems to work pretty well. One thing that i noticed was that in the tune it says to use S2 tyres in front and S3's in the rear......is that a typo or did you actually mean to put that? With the S2's in front it really has a tendency to understeer. Overall, i enjoyed this tune.
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- skygrasper_550--
Do I win?
...oh you're good..,
i don't like to
.., besides, it's very easy to answer, and VTiRoj already guessed it, the magic word..,that's ok, but if you do find the time to review the last pair, that would be very much appreciated..,
no, but the X button on my brother's controller is.., it's getting softer and softer every day..,
So am I going to have to test drive one of your car's first and leave my impression, before I request to have a Honda CRX touge tune?
yes sir, that's how it goes around here.., and you're in luck, i just happened to have an untouched CRX in my garage.., feel free to try out any car.., 👍
Alright, I just tested your Evo V tune and I can say that I'm pretty impressed. I ran it stock at the Citta di Aria course and got a 1:50.464. After adding the tune, my lap time fell by six seconds! I noticed that the car has a lot of grip while exiting the corner and it dosent have as much body roll as stock, which is good. For such a mild tune it seems to work pretty well. One thing that i noticed was that in the tune it says to use S2 tyres in front and S3's in the rear......is that a typo or did you actually mean to put that? With the S2's in front it really has a tendency to understeer. Overall, i enjoyed this tune.
thank you for the review, kind sir.., the tire compound listed is not a typo, you can either choose S2 or S3 for the setup, both work pretty well, if i would say.., 👍 AND since you reviewed one of my cars, you can request a car setup from me..,
1:50.464 in stock, and about 1:44.xxx when tuned, eh?? is that the best you can do??
I can pull out a 1:37.xxx on that CP Evo ..,the last pair for L4 vs V8 is now posted up!!
@ Venari - your Vanquish will be ready by tomorrow..,
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- skygrasper_550--
== Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R ==
(351 hp)(---.-- ft.lb)
Parts List:
SP Exhaust
Racing Brakes
NA Stage 1
FC Transmission
TR Clutch
RC Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
RC Suspension
S3 Tires
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Parts Settings:
Suspension
Spring Rate : 6.0 / 2.5
Ride Height : 126 / 124
Shock Bound : 4 / 3
Shock Rebound : 5 / 5
Camber : 1.6 / 0.0
Toe : 0 / 0
Stabilizer : 1 / 1
Transmission
Auto - 4
Final - 2.980
1st - 3.272
2nd - 2.406
3rd - 1.833
4th - 1.455
5th - 1.163
6th - 0.927
LSD
Initial: 15
Accel: 35
Decel: 15
When it comes to fine American muscle and V8 power, nothing beats Shelby. Even today, many consider old Shelby models like this G.T. 350 to be "a work of art". Because of that, this and its brother, the G.T. 500, are sought by car collectors everywhere. Just seeing one in real life is to die for, this will make you go "WOOOOOW". We are honored and proud to have one in our garage, so we tried our best not to ruin this one-of-a-kind masterpiece. We decided to make it a rival for our MR2 drifter, so very careful tuning was done. The only problem we had with this car is its engine curve, its peak output was concentrated too much in the low-RPM ranges. Unlike the MR2 where you can go crazy with it and do sick high-speed powerslides, you need to be gentle with this car, because this white horse will kick and fight back if pushed too hard. This car demands mad skills, throttle and steering control are a must. If you have those, go ahead ride her, but we won't be responsible for your life insurance..,
(351 hp)(---.-- ft.lb)
Parts List:
SP Exhaust
Racing Brakes
NA Stage 1
FC Transmission
TR Clutch
RC Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
RC Suspension
S3 Tires
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Parts Settings:
Suspension
Spring Rate : 6.0 / 2.5
Ride Height : 126 / 124
Shock Bound : 4 / 3
Shock Rebound : 5 / 5
Camber : 1.6 / 0.0
Toe : 0 / 0
Stabilizer : 1 / 1
Transmission
Auto - 4
Final - 2.980
1st - 3.272
2nd - 2.406
3rd - 1.833
4th - 1.455
5th - 1.163
6th - 0.927
LSD
Initial: 15
Accel: 35
Decel: 15
When it comes to fine American muscle and V8 power, nothing beats Shelby. Even today, many consider old Shelby models like this G.T. 350 to be "a work of art". Because of that, this and its brother, the G.T. 500, are sought by car collectors everywhere. Just seeing one in real life is to die for, this will make you go "WOOOOOW". We are honored and proud to have one in our garage, so we tried our best not to ruin this one-of-a-kind masterpiece. We decided to make it a rival for our MR2 drifter, so very careful tuning was done. The only problem we had with this car is its engine curve, its peak output was concentrated too much in the low-RPM ranges. Unlike the MR2 where you can go crazy with it and do sick high-speed powerslides, you need to be gentle with this car, because this white horse will kick and fight back if pushed too hard. This car demands mad skills, throttle and steering control are a must. If you have those, go ahead ride her, but we won't be responsible for your life insurance..,
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nd 4 holden spd
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How do you decide the winner in a GT4 drift battle?
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- skygrasper_550--
i dunno.., 
only someone who's damn good at GT4 drifting can decide the winner and loser..,
only someone who's damn good at GT4 drifting can decide the winner and loser..,
- 4,763
- Houston, TX
1:50.464 in stock, and about 1:44.xxx when tuned, eh?? is that the best you can do??Maybe because i thought that you meant to use S2 front and S3 rear for some reason. I must have misinterpreted your specifications.
Alright, i retested with the right tyres and got a 1:40.764....its still off of your time, but i'm no expert.
As for a request, how about an 86' Ruf BTR tuned to the Infineon Stock Car circuit?
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- skygrasper_550--
Maybe because i thought that you meant to use S2 front and S3 rear for some reason. I must have misinterpreted your specifications.
Alright, i retested with the right tyres and got a 1:40.764....its still off of your time, but i'm no expert.
hehe, it's because Citta 'di Aria is my home course..,
As for a request, how about an 86' Ruf BTR tuned to the Infineon Stock Car circuit?
will do sir
.., one question, can you buy the BTR from the Ruf showroom?? and PM me what kind of setup you like (race, touge, etc.) or just PM me the settings..,Nice combo, especially because you did my favourite car from the game.
Just too bad I can't drift and don't have the time/enough motivation to teach myself how to do it...
I thought you'd like the Mustang.., that's too bad, that Shelby looks damn cool when it drifts, especially when i used it to drift the loooong bank sweeper of Trial Mountain..,
that will be very much appreciated.., 👍
okay, enough of TTL for now and back to Red-Line.., my story's been out for about 2 weeks, dang Armored Core : Last Raven, took a lot of my time..,
*edit: whoops, forgot to update the scoreboard, see first page
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I just built the drift duo, and the Mustang's ratios look funky at best. Did you mean to lengthen the top gear? The conventional method is to shorten it. I guess I'll see how it works.
Also, I like the way that, before you even drive either car, it's clear that you're trying to put them on a truly level playing field. The weak yet refined MR-2 has lots of power mods, but minimal drivetrain mods. The strong yet unrefined Mustang gets full drivetrain mods, but minimal power mods. Even their weights are nearly identical! This seems an extremely well-chosen pair, and I look forward to driving them together. Disclaimer: I may tend towards the apparently-more-controllable MR-2 since I'm still adapting to drifting with my DFP, and a vehicle's "friendliness" is becoming hugely important to my roughish driving style.
Not to mention, I like Japanese cars more than American cars.
No, no, I'll try to be fair, though. S3 Drifting is so rare and difficult, though, if either car does it well, I guaruntee that I'll only be concerned about how well it does it.
Also, I like the way that, before you even drive either car, it's clear that you're trying to put them on a truly level playing field. The weak yet refined MR-2 has lots of power mods, but minimal drivetrain mods. The strong yet unrefined Mustang gets full drivetrain mods, but minimal power mods. Even their weights are nearly identical! This seems an extremely well-chosen pair, and I look forward to driving them together. Disclaimer: I may tend towards the apparently-more-controllable MR-2 since I'm still adapting to drifting with my DFP, and a vehicle's "friendliness" is becoming hugely important to my roughish driving style.
Not to mention, I like Japanese cars more than American cars.
No, no, I'll try to be fair, though. S3 Drifting is so rare and difficult, though, if either car does it well, I guaruntee that I'll only be concerned about how well it does it.
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- skygrasper_550--
enjoy.., and when you're testing the Shelby, view the replay.., the darn thing just looks 
cool.., 👍
and when you're testing the Shelby, view the replay.., the darn thing just looks cool.., 👍
- 1,101
- GTP_EA11R
Upon initial testing, the MR-2, when driven gently, did rather well. The oversteer was controllable and progressive, but omnipresent. However, that is under very, very gentle driving, about 80% maximum pace. At high intensity, the soft suspension hurls all the weight forward under braking, the mid-engine layout allows the car to pivot whenever it (but not necesarily you) wants to. The car ends up at extreme angles, relying only on backwards weight transfer from acceleration to come out of the corner... not sideways. It makes for a frenzied, unsmooth experience unless driven with perfect skill. The only upside, really, is that there is no wheelspin whatsoever, but that only means that you'll have more ability to pay attention to the catastrophic handling. The soft suspension, MR agility, modern grip, and weakish engine all mean that this is a car only appreciable when driven with incredible skill. And I, sir, do not.
The Mustang, driven at the same 80% as the MR-2, feels exactly as you'd expect a car to feel in GT4: predictable and safe, though not necasarily understeering. Driven at full clip, the first difference that becomes apparent is the wheelspin: there is some. Not too much at all, and very controllable. You may need to go 80-95% throttle sometimes, but that's to be expected here, and not a nusiance in the least. The gear ratios seem awkward on the setup screen, but they work to keep wheelspin predictable while driving. At the limit, the suspension feels tight and buttoned down, the car perfectly neutral and feeling (much like the Mugen S2000 of the same tuner) like the rear tires are about to, but aren't losing grip. In other words, it's a perfect balance.
Then, we mash the throttle. The car swings predictably sideways at a light angle, requiring that 80-95% throttle. You know that the wheelspin is the only thing keeping you from snapping back and hitting the outer wall head-on, like most FRs in GT4, but the wheelspin here is so predictable, it just never happens. Exiting the corner, you can end the drift with less throttle or with more countersteer, the car responds well either way. The suspension feels, if anything, just a little too tight for absolutely perfect control: the reflexes are so immediate, you get the sense your tiny driving errors are being magnified into small missteps of the car. When the car does snap back, though, one may simply ease the throttle, and turn back in the direction of the corner as the grippy rear wheels refuse to have the car spin.
In terms of FR versus MR, the FR car wins the drift battle for its slower reflexes allowing for a more forgiving drive. The MR car is too nimble to be driven with the confidence and smooth motion of the FR car in this case. And, since the FR is naturally more oversteery than the MR, it can use more conservative and predictable settings.
In terms of I4 versus V8, the torquey nature of the V8 wins since it delivers oodles of power in a mellow way, perfect for drift control. The slightly weak nature of the I4 here means that drifts can't rely on engine power, which forces the job on chassis tendencies, which are already difficult enough as is.
So, the victory of FR and of V8 both point to the far-superior Mustang as the winner here. It is still a slightly difficult car to drive, since drift on high-grip tires is slightly unnatural, but it does it infinitely better than the MR-2 does. The only way to improve the Mustang that I can see would be to slow the reflexes of the car just a little bit. It just doesn't feel like a muscle car when it's so immediate and responsive. Other than that, it's great.
The Mustang, driven at the same 80% as the MR-2, feels exactly as you'd expect a car to feel in GT4: predictable and safe, though not necasarily understeering. Driven at full clip, the first difference that becomes apparent is the wheelspin: there is some. Not too much at all, and very controllable. You may need to go 80-95% throttle sometimes, but that's to be expected here, and not a nusiance in the least. The gear ratios seem awkward on the setup screen, but they work to keep wheelspin predictable while driving. At the limit, the suspension feels tight and buttoned down, the car perfectly neutral and feeling (much like the Mugen S2000 of the same tuner) like the rear tires are about to, but aren't losing grip. In other words, it's a perfect balance.
Then, we mash the throttle. The car swings predictably sideways at a light angle, requiring that 80-95% throttle. You know that the wheelspin is the only thing keeping you from snapping back and hitting the outer wall head-on, like most FRs in GT4, but the wheelspin here is so predictable, it just never happens. Exiting the corner, you can end the drift with less throttle or with more countersteer, the car responds well either way. The suspension feels, if anything, just a little too tight for absolutely perfect control: the reflexes are so immediate, you get the sense your tiny driving errors are being magnified into small missteps of the car. When the car does snap back, though, one may simply ease the throttle, and turn back in the direction of the corner as the grippy rear wheels refuse to have the car spin.
In terms of FR versus MR, the FR car wins the drift battle for its slower reflexes allowing for a more forgiving drive. The MR car is too nimble to be driven with the confidence and smooth motion of the FR car in this case. And, since the FR is naturally more oversteery than the MR, it can use more conservative and predictable settings.
In terms of I4 versus V8, the torquey nature of the V8 wins since it delivers oodles of power in a mellow way, perfect for drift control. The slightly weak nature of the I4 here means that drifts can't rely on engine power, which forces the job on chassis tendencies, which are already difficult enough as is.
So, the victory of FR and of V8 both point to the far-superior Mustang as the winner here. It is still a slightly difficult car to drive, since drift on high-grip tires is slightly unnatural, but it does it infinitely better than the MR-2 does. The only way to improve the Mustang that I can see would be to slow the reflexes of the car just a little bit. It just doesn't feel like a muscle car when it's so immediate and responsive. Other than that, it's great.
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- skygrasper_550--
thank you for the review of the final duo.., your request car will come up, if not tomorrow, the next day.., 👍
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- skygrasper_550--
^check your mail, i have now sent you the car setup..,
so, for L4 vs V8, L4 was completely decimated.., the winnar
is V8, by an astonishing 3 : 0!!
so, for L4 vs V8, L4 was completely decimated.., the winnar
is V8, by an astonishing 3 : 0!!
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- skygrasper_550--
== Mazda RX-8 Type S (SE3P) == *TCv4 RWD Category Winner*
(388 hp)(266.10 ft.lb)
Parts List:
SR Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Computer Chip
FC Transmission
TR Clutch
SR Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
Supercharger (yes..,)
RC Suspension
S3 Tires
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Rear Wing (3D Type BB)
Wheels (optional)
Parts Settings:
Suspension
Spring Rate : 7.0 / 7.0
Ride Height : 115 / 115
Shock Bound : 3 / 4
Shock Rebound : 5 / 5
Camber : 2.2 / 0.8
Toe: 0 / 0
Stabilizer : 1 / 1
Transmission:
Auto - 8
Final - 4.440
1st - 3.222
2nd - 2.322
3rd - 1.751
4th - 1.374
5th - 1.099
6th - 0.877
LSD
Initial: 20
Accel: 45
Decel: 15
Downforce - 10 / 12
When this car first appeared as a concept car in 2002, you may say that "it took the world by storm". It attracted attention and drew interest in any car show it appeared in. Many thought that it was going to be the next-generation RX-7, but that was not the case. Mazda proclaimed that this was going to be an entirely new car. Until now the Mazda RX-8 is still very popular, and some say this is the sports car for women because of its looks and appearance. So, we decided to give this rotary some "femme fatale". We chose the Type S model, because it is the best among the others. In the movie The Fast and The Furious : Tokyo Drift , the girl in the RX-8, or Neela, complained that she cannot drift that well using that car. That's because the RX-8 lacks torque, especially in the low-RPM ranges. Although many prefer their RX-8's to have turbines, we prefer ours supercharged. That's right, we fitted in a supercharger into this "cute little toy" to give it a boost in torque and an intimidating growl. This car is now not only for girls, but for those who have enough balls to drive it.
Now, this car will have the award-winning setup over at the recent Tuner Challenge Version 4. Featuring an upgraded ECU and full adjustable transmission, you can expect better power and engine response. The suspension and differential are also re-tuned, to meet the demands of circuit racing. Yes, this car is now more circuit-oriented, but it has not lost its touch over at the touge. EN-JOY..,
(388 hp)(266.10 ft.lb)
Parts List:
SR Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Computer Chip
FC Transmission
TR Clutch
SR Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
Supercharger (yes..,)
RC Suspension
S3 Tires
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Rear Wing (3D Type BB)
Wheels (optional)
Parts Settings:
Suspension
Spring Rate : 7.0 / 7.0
Ride Height : 115 / 115
Shock Bound : 3 / 4
Shock Rebound : 5 / 5
Camber : 2.2 / 0.8
Toe: 0 / 0
Stabilizer : 1 / 1
Transmission:
Auto - 8
Final - 4.440
1st - 3.222
2nd - 2.322
3rd - 1.751
4th - 1.374
5th - 1.099
6th - 0.877
LSD
Initial: 20
Accel: 45
Decel: 15
Downforce - 10 / 12
When this car first appeared as a concept car in 2002, you may say that "it took the world by storm". It attracted attention and drew interest in any car show it appeared in. Many thought that it was going to be the next-generation RX-7, but that was not the case. Mazda proclaimed that this was going to be an entirely new car. Until now the Mazda RX-8 is still very popular, and some say this is the sports car for women because of its looks and appearance. So, we decided to give this rotary some "femme fatale". We chose the Type S model, because it is the best among the others. In the movie The Fast and The Furious : Tokyo Drift , the girl in the RX-8, or Neela, complained that she cannot drift that well using that car. That's because the RX-8 lacks torque, especially in the low-RPM ranges. Although many prefer their RX-8's to have turbines, we prefer ours supercharged. That's right, we fitted in a supercharger into this "cute little toy" to give it a boost in torque and an intimidating growl. This car is now not only for girls, but for those who have enough balls to drive it.
Now, this car will have the award-winning setup over at the recent Tuner Challenge Version 4. Featuring an upgraded ECU and full adjustable transmission, you can expect better power and engine response. The suspension and differential are also re-tuned, to meet the demands of circuit racing. Yes, this car is now more circuit-oriented, but it has not lost its touch over at the touge. EN-JOY..,
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== Honda Amuse S2000 R1 (AP2) ==
Parts List:
RC Exhaust
Brakes
Computer Chip
Port Polish
FC Transmission
TR Clutch
RC Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
NA Stage 2
RC Suspension
Parts Settings:
Suspension
Spring Rate : 8.0 / 7.5
Ride Height : 78 / 78
Shock Bound : 4 / 3
Shock Rebound : 5 / 5
Camber : 2.5 / 1.2
Toe : 0 / 0
Stabilizer : 1 / 2
Transmission
Auto - 8
Final - 3.560
1st - 3.554
2nd - 2.548
3rd - 1.937
4th - 1.545
5th - 1.270
6th - 1.040
LSD
Initial: 15
Accel: 35
Decel: 15
Presenting to you a car that already has racecar-like performance, RZA brings out a bigger beast from this machine. With a fully revamped setup, we've installed a fully-adjustable transmission system and swapped the turbo parts with mechanical tuning for higher and more precise response. This is is still and always will be a touge monster.., 👍👍
Parts List:
RC Exhaust
Brakes
Computer Chip
Port Polish
FC Transmission
TR Clutch
RC Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
NA Stage 2
RC Suspension
Parts Settings:
Suspension
Spring Rate : 8.0 / 7.5
Ride Height : 78 / 78
Shock Bound : 4 / 3
Shock Rebound : 5 / 5
Camber : 2.5 / 1.2
Toe : 0 / 0
Stabilizer : 1 / 2
Transmission
Auto - 8
Final - 3.560
1st - 3.554
2nd - 2.548
3rd - 1.937
4th - 1.545
5th - 1.270
6th - 1.040
LSD
Initial: 15
Accel: 35
Decel: 15
Presenting to you a car that already has racecar-like performance, RZA brings out a bigger beast from this machine. With a fully revamped setup, we've installed a fully-adjustable transmission system and swapped the turbo parts with mechanical tuning for higher and more precise response. This is is still and always will be a touge monster.., 👍👍
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nd 4 holden spd
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^check your mail, i have now sent you the car setup..,
so, for L4 vs V8, L4 was completely decimated.., the winnar
Ooooohh rrright
So how you doing anyway =drifting24/7=? Holding up OK? We haven't spoken in a while, and I really do miss all you guys.
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- skygrasper_550--
i'm fine, steady business here..,
(shouts to Grey, Mafs, RJ, VTiRoj and to everyone else) hey yo! Holdenboy misses us! Ain't that cute, awwww..,
yeah we understand, you'e getting very busy over at TLD.., good luck to ya.., 👍
(shouts to Grey, Mafs, RJ, VTiRoj and to everyone else) hey yo! Holdenboy misses us! Ain't that cute, awwww..,
yeah we understand, you'e getting very busy over at TLD.., good luck to ya.., 👍
nd 4 holden spd
(Banned)
- 6,142
- GTP_nd4holdenspd
- No, another PSN: nd4holdenspd
i'm fine, steady business here..,
(shouts to Grey, Mafs, RJ, VTiRoj and to everyone else) hey yo! Holdenboy misses us! Ain't that cute, awwww..,
yeah we understand, you'e getting very busy over at TLD.., good luck to ya.., 👍
Actually, one of my best customers made his own garage
But I still have plenty of customers come in. Having full time work now means less tunes for the public to enjoy, so less reviews in turn. But still, business is good.
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- RoJJieE
- mb6roj
(shouts to Grey, Mafs, RJ, VTiRoj and to everyone else) hey yo! Holdenboy misses us! Ain't that cute, awwww..,
Yes very cute, awww indeed.
BIG HUG!
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I tested the Evo V and for a mild build, it is a very fun car to drive. With the S-rated tires, it likes to slide around quite a bit, making for some spectacular overtakes in the corners. Coming out of the corners, it could use a bit more punch (racing AI lvl 10 in family cups or meets) but other than that, I wouldn't change it at all.
