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Update 2.10 - Unannounced Features
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True true...FunkinOnTha1
What I am wondering is if the PP is regulated better between cars. Like what was it the Bugatti racing against one of the trucks.
Hopefully it is. Or better at least.
TheKittenI agree with you L2L Felt little more Crisp
Yeah that's probably the word for it.
Of course it means a little bit more tuning but hey oh well
They finally fixed the shadow issue that was plaguing Circuit de la Sarthe on the Mulsanne straight away. The shadow issue used to cast the shadow on the guardrail like a following rainbow dash but now it's completely fixed both in gameplay and replays.
I'm currently experiencing a problem (presented before this update but still exists). It has to do with the audio (or engine/muffler noise) whenever I'm playing in the chase view cam. The car would sound nice and loud in cockpit/bumper view but suddenly when changed to chase view cam it will sound loud but when switching gears the volume of the engine/muffler noise will change to very low. I tried fixing it in the audio settings but no luck. Anyone experiencing this problem as well?
I'm currently experiencing a problem (presented before this update but still exists). It has to do with the audio (or engine/muffler noise) whenever I'm playing in the chase view cam. The car would sound nice and loud in cockpit/bumper view but suddenly when changed to chase view cam it will sound loud but when switching gears the volume of the engine/muffler noise will change to very low. I tried fixing it in the audio settings but no luck. Anyone experiencing this problem as well?
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iPr0kka
You talking about fade of volume in different views?
It does different fades in different views.
I have 5.1 surround sound systems and when i switch views it changes the placement and volume for the sounds. If this is what you are talking about in don't see it as a problem really.
If it isn't the problem. Can you explain more
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I took some pics of the new Corvette at Route x and with a huge amount of smoke from a pileup. There didn't seem to be the same problem with jaggies at the edge of the car when the smoke is behind the car. Finished photo was much better than I remember. There were a few minor grapical anomalies on the new 'Vette but they weren't too bad.
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I had a great racing series in the pipeline, and now it's been torpedoed. Already-advantageous cars have been given a power boost (the regulations use PP and weight limits). GT300s have been reduced in PP, as has my Altezza touring car, which has been slashed by a huge amount. That car was already the quickest in the bunch, and now with maximum power it doesn't even come close to the 515pp maximum for all the cars in the class.
In test racing with my pals, these regulations produced some of the closest racing I've ever seen, with such variety of cars. Now it's totally screwed. I spent a good amount of time coming up with this series.
Thanks PD. Thanks a lot. You can take your Corvette FINAL PROTOTYPE and shove it up your a***.
In test racing with my pals, these regulations produced some of the closest racing I've ever seen, with such variety of cars. Now it's totally screwed. I spent a good amount of time coming up with this series.
Thanks PD. Thanks a lot. You can take your Corvette FINAL PROTOTYPE and shove it up your a***.
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Recently had a shootout in the tuning forum for 500PP Race cars. My Altezza TC was battling with several S2K variants for top spot.
With the new update those S2Ks are all around 492PP now while my Altezza is at 447PP yet performance wise they are still pretty much the same.
If everyone has already finalized their tunes for your series then suggest you go ahead and run them as is regardless of what their new PP rating is. If you've not gotten finalized tunes then guess you'll need to hold off and hope that PD fixes this mess soon.
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There are too many cars to spec individually. The regulations were simple, the power varied massively, but the racing was still really close. That was the beauty of it. Rally cars could race competitively with GT300s.
PP was supposed to account for all aspects of a car's performance, so combining that with a weight limit made for a good formula. Also, I never had a real problem racing in public lobbies using a PP limit. There will always be advantageous cars and disadvantageous cars.
The trick PD are missing is allowing us to simultaneously regulate power, weight and PP value.
Tired Tyres
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Why would you even need PP then?.
Maximum power, minimum weight & tyre regulation are all that are needed.
At least done this way, no amount of PD tinkering would upset the intrinsic balance of the car.
Maximum power, minimum weight & tyre regulation are all that are needed.
At least done this way, no amount of PD tinkering would upset the intrinsic balance of the car.
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I like the new PP thing. Before, all you had to was find a car with at least one of the two conditions:
1) Huge mechanical grip (Speed 8, HSV-010, M3 CSL, Evora, 458 Italia, etc.)
2) A car that had low torque in the engine so it would excel in horsepower (standard NSX GT500 cars, LFa, Calibra DTM, etc.)
As long as you found a car like that, you would easliy do well in a lot of races that you entered the car. Now, you can pick one of those cars OR pick any of those cars that were affected (Most FR cars) by the update.
1) Huge mechanical grip (Speed 8, HSV-010, M3 CSL, Evora, 458 Italia, etc.)
2) A car that had low torque in the engine so it would excel in horsepower (standard NSX GT500 cars, LFa, Calibra DTM, etc.)
As long as you found a car like that, you would easliy do well in a lot of races that you entered the car. Now, you can pick one of those cars OR pick any of those cars that were affected (Most FR cars) by the update.
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I took most of my DTM and Super GT cars and tried to get them all to 600pp. Results were interesting. All the cars are fully run in except for the higher HP Z, and they are have maximum downforce values and lowest weights possible.
I did this mainly to compare different race cars at their respective hp and weight figures made to reach 600pp, but you'll find a difference in your experience depending on what kind of turbos and engine upgrades your vehicles have, which can really affect how the PP (ping-pong) bounces around.
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The Astra, A4, and CLK have had their values drop so much that they all can easily go well over 600hp, pretty much going to destroy anything set to 600pp.
But the new kings are definitely in the Supra line. The Yellowhat Supra clocks in at 641hp, the Woodone '03 comes in at just over 600 and the '97 Tom's sits at the highest of the rest at 541hp... for some reason.
Skyline GT-Rs can't get as close to 600 in max mode, otherwise all over the place.
Adding HP to these cars doesn't raise PP as much as the others.
Adding 74 hp to this Audi only adds a whopping 17pp.
Here's the full rundown. Everything else is hardly affected in comparison. I'm heading off to run a few laps, cheers.
I did this mainly to compare different race cars at their respective hp and weight figures made to reach 600pp, but you'll find a difference in your experience depending on what kind of turbos and engine upgrades your vehicles have, which can really affect how the PP (ping-pong) bounces around.
Notes:
The Astra, A4, and CLK have had their values drop so much that they all can easily go well over 600hp, pretty much going to destroy anything set to 600pp.
But the new kings are definitely in the Supra line. The Yellowhat Supra clocks in at 641hp, the Woodone '03 comes in at just over 600 and the '97 Tom's sits at the highest of the rest at 541hp... for some reason.
Skyline GT-Rs can't get as close to 600 in max mode, otherwise all over the place.
Adding HP to these cars doesn't raise PP as much as the others.
Adding 74 hp to this Audi only adds a whopping 17pp.
Here's the full rundown. Everything else is hardly affected in comparison. I'm heading off to run a few laps, cheers.
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For the closest possible racing with the greatest variety of cars, you need to account for the different torque and downforce values, not to mention other characteristics that affect handling, such as tyre width, wheel track width, etc. PP was supposed to take these into account. It's important to get it right, and before this update, it was as right as it had ever been to date.
Actual power output alone actually has rather little to do with overall performance (in terms of lap times). It's about a range of things.
Tired Tyres
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Some cars are just faster than other cars. That's a fact and no amount of messing about with PP will sort out especially when PD keep changing it
Even with PP there are always automatic go-to cars for any given limit.
Even with PP there are always automatic go-to cars for any given limit.
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Well we can't seem to find a pattern, rhyme or reason to the differences, so... it's broken pretty much.
Yeah, this is a set of spec's (pre 2.10 of course) that we used in a series of GT500 cars that had them all on an equal level of performance, check out the differences:
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Yes. All the open top cars got updated in a previous patch. They are still standard though.
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The driver even moves his hand to shift. Was that in the last update too?
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this!
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ncrthree
Yeah... Mainly the fact that the cars feel i guess more alive (i know i suck with wording). It is as if it is mostly tire physics that have changed and how it is shown through is by more progressive understeer and oversteer.
That's basically it is one of those minor changes that they do in the updates that don't really get in the news for the update. So basically just minor tuning changes need to be made.
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