Post-E3 Console Wars: There's Only One Way To Find Out

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Which best describes your current next-gen console choice

  • Neither before E3; XB1 now

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  • Neither before E3; Both now

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  • PS4 before E3; XB1 now

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  • PS4 before E3; Both now

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  • Both before E3; Neither now

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  • Total voters
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SEGA best game company in the XXcentury - Fact.
Microsoft best game company in the XXI century- Fact.
Shenmue II best game ever made - Fact.
 
Having things that already compromise your privacy is not a sound reason to get a new thing that does it more. It's not a selling point and it's not a good thing. It's a bad thing. A very bad thing.

It's still a customer-installed, internet enabled, corporate (and federal) CCTV camera with permanent audio capture and video and IR video capture on demand. At best it'll send you adverts for Lightspeed Briefs, since you like sitting around in your underpants. Or Kleenex, if you're... uhhh... "single". But you have no way of stopping it from having its scope expanded.

I'm not suggesting you should be OK with adding more potential risk, but complaining about the spying capabilities of the One while simultaneously using a service like Facebook or Google+ seems rather odd (general statement, I think you've said before you don't have a Facebook). Using anything that connected out to the Internet is ripe to steal, borrow, mine, <insert buzz word> your data for whatever use the company wants.

I'm personally OK with the One, I'm not overly thrilled about some of it's intrusiveness mind you, but I'm willing to accept it because I personally don't think I'm putting myself at any more risk than I already have in the world.

Also Lightspeed Briefs? Sign me up.
 
Dreamcast was the best videogame console on 6th gen. Yes was a failure but have the best game ever. SHENMUEII.
The best 2D fighting games and 2D shooter games were release for Dreamcast.
Jet Set Radio, PSO, Sonic Adventue(best 3D sonic game) Dead Or Alive 2, VF3.
Racing games: Tokyo Extreme Racer, Sega Rally 2, MSR, Sega GT.
You can play on DC Tekken 3, MGS1, Gran Turismo 2 and Half Life.
And had a decent online service.
Dreamcast was a "failure" but was much better than PS2, Xbox and GC.
SEGA was the best game company in late 80's and begin of 90's

I had a Dreamcast. 9/9/99. It was the natural evolution, since I had a Saturn too. By 2003, the PS2 and Xbox had pretty much everything of value ported to one of them short of Sonic Adventure 2.

SEGA best game company in the XXcentury - Fact.
Microsoft best game company in the XXI century- Fact.
Shenmue II best game ever made - Fact.

:lol:
 
Where's this option?
" to hell consoles, expecially those spy thingy by MS, I'll go PC. And as soon as Ubuntu will recieve some sim-racing love, I'll throw Windows out of the window as well".
 
I'm not suggesting you should be OK with adding more potential risk, but complaining about the spying capabilities of the One while simultaneously using a service like Facebook or Google+ seems rather odd (general statement, I think you've said before you don't have a Facebook)
There's still a gulf between the foolish stuff people choose to share online and a camera that records your heartbeat and tracks you by your skeleton harvesting data you have no idea you're sharing...

It's literally step 2 of the three steps required before you stub your toe and are fined 1 credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute. Step 1 already happened, when it was deemed that causing offence wasn't free speech - though I'm not sure the US has locked anyone up for it yet, the UK keeps right on doing it.
I'm personally OK with the One, I'm not overly thrilled about some of it's intrusiveness mind you, but I'm willing to accept it because I personally don't think I'm putting myself at any more risk than I already have in the world.
You are.

Unless you've actually been on a season of Big Brother, the Kinect 2 is the most intrusive device in your existence to date. And I don't think that even the Big Brother house included IR cameras that monitored biometrics...
Also Lightspeed Briefs? Sign me up.
Caution: Objects in the mirror are less attractive than they appear.
Where's this option?
" to hell consoles, expecially those spy thingy by MS, I'll go PC. And as soon as Ubuntu will recieve some sim-racing love, I'll throw Windows out of the window as well".
That'll be the first one.
 
I plan on getting neither and building a PC, at least for now. Neither console seems to offer much that my PS3 and 360 can't do now.

And Kinect 2 is ripe for addition to PRISM, once again making it more of a privacy and security risk than a mobile phone...Until "the feds" serve it with an NSL... Then they get all the data too, without telling you and MS have to deny it.

So it records?

Where did you hear this?

Any, you know, proof?

Seems a lot of the crap I'm hearing is hearsay, kind of shocked to see you as a part of it.
 
So it records?

Where did you hear this?

Any, you know, proof?

Seems a lot of the crap I'm hearing is hearsay, kind of shocked to see you as a part of it.
Good job I didn't say it then - your phone doesn't actually record calls either, but who you call, when and for how long is logged by the provider and subject to PRISM requests.

However, I would be utterly amazed if it didn't collect information for an MS profile and targetted advertising.
 
There's a lot of grumblings of people that are aiming to crack the Xbone asap. Usually, the more popular a product is (whether it's simply because a lot of people have it, or a lot of people hate its restrictions) the more those master hacker types want to get down and dirty to open the machine up to push their reputations. I wonder if George Hotz will want to give it a go.

Imagine what it could do, would be pretty cool. Turn it into some crazy Linux based home media library that can play cracked games with a moddable Kinect thingy.
 
I think I will stick with PS3 and PC for a while now although I don't do much gaming anyway. The little interest I had buying PS4 at launch went away when they put online multiplayer behind paywall which was my biggest worry.

Xbox One, I was excited about Killer Instinct remake but it doesn't look, sound and play like the original but more like Street Fighter IV. Given the price of console and the negatives around it, I don't know if I ever will get one.

PS4 I think is something I might buy in a few years time, maybe when I get a Vita as well to make use of it more.

Wii U probably excites me the most at the moment so I will look to get one hopefully when games like Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze come out.
 
I was excited for the PS4 and Wii U but after E3, the PS4 lost its appeal to me, I can't really afford the PS+ and the games right now feel like Online-must games :(.
 
I was excited for the PS4 and Wii U but after E3, the PS4 lost its appeal to me, I can't really afford the PS+ and the games right now feel like Online-must games :(.

Wait, you cant afford any games but you wanted the system? What are you doing here if you "were" excited about something you clearly couldn't afford?

The world seems to think single player doesn't matter any more. You need to pay for your internet, pay for the system and games. Less than $5 a month shouldn't be out of reach. Or maybe you worded what you were trying to say the wrong way.

Last of Us and tomb Raider are great games with mediocre multiplayer. Fallout 3 and Skyrim have zero multiplayer. Diablo 3 has single player and couch co-op. Many off line co-op games. Great games that do not ever need to be played online.....

A Gaming PC that will last 3-4 years will cost you as much as a PS4 with 3-4 years of PS+(Tons of free games with that across 3 platforms), you are dead in the water and have no options. Online seems important so WiiU isn't going to fill that void either.
 
SEGA best game company in the XXcentury - Fact.
Microsoft best game company in the XXI century- Fact.
Shenmue II best game ever made - Fact.

No those are subjective opinions, not objective facts.

You really should try and learn the difference.
 
SEGA best game company in the XXcentury - Fact.
Microsoft best game company in the XXI century- Fact.
Shenmue II best game ever made - Fact.

Can we actually have some reasoning behind that? Enlighten us with these 'facts' we were never told of before.
 
Wait, you cant afford any games but you wanted the system? What are you doing here if you "were" excited about something you clearly couldn't afford?

The world seems to think single player doesn't matter any more. You need to pay for your internet, pay for the system and games. Less than $5 a month shouldn't be out of reach. Or maybe you worded what you were trying to say the wrong way.

Last of Us and tomb Raider are great games with mediocre multiplayer. Fallout 3 and Skyrim have zero multiplayer. Diablo 3 has single player and couch co-op. Many off line co-op games. Great games that do not ever need to be played online.....

A Gaming PC will cost you as much as a PS4 with 3-4 years of PS+, you are dead in the water and have no option. Online seems important so WiiU isn't going to fill that void either.

1. I can't really afford the monthly and yearly fee ides (I rarely buy stuff online as well).

2. I prefer buying something that lasts' almost forever than only for 3-4 years, I'm not even a PC gamer anyway.

3. Wii U has online features like Miiverse and has upcoming games like Mario Kart 8, and the next Super Smash Bros. and it has free online

4. I don't like any of the games you mentioned, to be hoest:indiff:.
 
PS4 before and PS4 now. I was hoping for more first party game announcements but other than that Sony blew me away.

I'm feeling nostalgic in a strange but satisfying way, because it kinda feels like the good ol' PS2 days. Just like back then, it feels like Sony are really nailing it this time.
 
1. I can't really afford the monthly and yearly fee ides (I rarely buy stuff online as well).

I understand that but you did not expect it to be cheaper than the Wiiu did you?

2. I prefer buying something that lasts' almost forever than only for 3-4 years, I'm not even a PC gamer anyway.

My point is you don't have many options as far as your needs and affordability, online gaming

3. Wii U has online features like Miiverse and has upcoming games like Mario Kart 8, and the next Super Smash Bros. and it has free online

Games you wouldn't be able to play on PS4 anyway. What online PS4 games were you intending on playing that are similar on WiiU?

4. I don't like any of the games you mentioned, to be hoest:indiff:.

Examples of good offline games

Answers in Red.
 
I'm personally OK with the One, I'm not overly thrilled about some of it's intrusiveness mind you, but I'm willing to accept it because I personally don't think I'm putting myself at any more risk than I already have in the world.

What is the benefit, for the gamer, of having this intrusive device required to be connected/on all the time, with the 24 hour call in to boot?

I guess it could be argued less pirating, sharing, second hand sales could bring us better games as the devs make more money but I don't buy it. That has nothing to do with the kinect anyway so, what is the purpose of it?

OT: I was not planning on buying either and I still am not. I might have bought a ps4 down the line as it's cheaper then I thought it would be but the pay to play killed that chance as well.
 
Answers in Red.

1. Might be cheaper but once you start paying for online, it turns out that you're paying more.

2. I understand what you mean but I can't see the point on waisting money for online when others do it for free.

3. None at the moment, actually.
 
1. Might be cheaper but once you start paying for online, it turns out that you're paying more.

2. I understand what you mean but I can't see the point on waisting money for online when others do it for free.

Thats where my point about single player comes in.
So its just the sense of freedom, not the actual way you intend to play online? I got it.

3. None at the moment, actually.

Red, I don't have PS+ for its online play, it has many useful perks well worth the $50 a year. You can't see the point because you do not understand what PS+ means. If WiiU is your online alternative then I have to question your taste in "online" games where that matters.
 
I thought I was going to eventually end up getting a PS4 just for GT and MGS games, but after the E3 press conference I'm actually really excited about the PS4. I mean I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a second graphics card for my PC before I get a PS4, but still, I want one ASAP. Or as soon as I can import an American one anyway.

I think the important thing I need to bear in mind is that I really need to get a real job.
 
I thought I was going to eventually end up getting a PS4 just for GT and MGS games, but after the E3 press conference I'm actually really excited about the PS4. I mean I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a second graphics card for my PC before I get a PS4, but still, I want one ASAP. Or as soon as I can import an American one anyway.

I think the important thing I need to bear in mind is that I really need to get a real job.

What promted you in the E3 event to get a PS4 ASAP?

The indie thing is a good move, should keep bigger devs on their toes but PC and Steam is really great for that too.

I'm in the GT MGS boat with a naughty dog/from software type game thrown in and nothing stood out except paying for online now.
 
If anyone gets a Xbone after E3 they are either daft or are loaded... with money. No offense but MS really screwed their LOYAL fans with what they did with the Xbone one.
 
I thought I was going to eventually end up getting a PS4 just for GT and MGS games, but after the E3 press conference I'm actually really excited about the PS4. I mean I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a second graphics card for my PC before I get a PS4, but still, I want one ASAP. Or as soon as I can import an American one anyway.

I think the important thing I need to bear in mind is that I really need to get a real job.
Why import an American PS4 out of interest?

If anyone gets a Xbone after E3 they are either daft or are loaded... with money. No offense but MS really screwed their LOYAL fans with what they did with the Xbone one.
There is no need for that. I am sure there is appeal to get console for a number of people, whether you like some of exclusive games for it or the features it has or for whatever other reason.
 
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