McLaren to let FIA member to watch and prove they give equality
- Thread starter <_Spike_>
- 15 comments
- 898 views
- 15,494
- UK
Did the FIA care that much when Schumacher was at Ferrari?
You can debate whether Lewis or Alonso should be no.1 or be equal, but teams will have a more favourable driver.
Let's say you're a Mclaren mechanic, who do you work harder for, someone who gives great credit to all the team after practically every race or someone who could moan about the sun being too warm?
You can debate whether Lewis or Alonso should be no.1 or be equal, but teams will have a more favourable driver.
Let's say you're a Mclaren mechanic, who do you work harder for, someone who gives great credit to all the team after practically every race or someone who could moan about the sun being too warm?
Blake
Premium
- 10,976
- NSW, Australia
- haswell00
Okay, so it will shut up some nay-sayers. However, I keep asking myself why the FIA is involved at all? There are no rules about equal treatment of drivers (imagine, for one second, if there were. Ferrari reprimanded for 1996–2006, Renault for 2002–2006, etc.). There are no rules against a team manipulating a championship by favouring one driver, and indeed, the only thing remotely relevant in the sporting regulations is…
And that is a regulation that has been ignored until Monaco this season, with most believing that it should be removed from the regulations as a team have the right to decide how best to get a good result in a race and the championship.
The only reason I can think that this is actually happening is because Mosely promised Alonso that he would make sure the team didn’t rape him when he submitted evidence for the hearing. But why is Mosely promising Alonso that Ron will run his team a certain way? Seems rather backward to me…
Not that I disagree with driver equality, and I applaud McLaren for continuing to treat their drivers in this way throughout this (internally) very difficult season. I just think it’s nonsensical that the FIA are involved.
Sporting Regulations
And that is a regulation that has been ignored until Monaco this season, with most believing that it should be removed from the regulations as a team have the right to decide how best to get a good result in a race and the championship.
The only reason I can think that this is actually happening is because Mosely promised Alonso that he would make sure the team didn’t rape him when he submitted evidence for the hearing. But why is Mosely promising Alonso that Ron will run his team a certain way? Seems rather backward to me…
Not that I disagree with driver equality, and I applaud McLaren for continuing to treat their drivers in this way throughout this (internally) very difficult season. I just think it’s nonsensical that the FIA are involved.
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
Well said Blake. All of this continues to suggest to me that McLaren will be all to happy to be rid of Alonso next year, and put an end to much of the tabloid like reporting and speculation that seems to come from or fed by the Alonso camp.
ROAD_DOGG33J
Premium
- 14,297
- IL, USA
- holyc0w1
- holyc0w
- 6,009
- Austin, Texas
- D-Nitrate / GTP_DNitrate
Far fetched speculation at best, especially after Alonso apparently already admitted that his results mostly depend on his engineer and those he trusts... and that apparently he has his own engineer and pit crew outside the influence of McLaren...
...and all of which would be responsible and have access to Alonso's tires prior to putting them on the car.
The fact that Alonso, his engineer, nor any of his pit crew managed to come up with any proof that the tire pressure was in any way manipulated by anyone outside his "entourage", not even providing the so-called manipulated tires as proof, in my mind, and I suspect in the mind of anyone other than his camp of diehard fans, was clearly an absurd accusation, and yet another example of Alonso trying his best to blame others when ever something doesn't go his way or perform his best.
ROAD_DOGG33J
Premium
- 14,297
- IL, USA
- holyc0w1
- holyc0w
- 1,202
The irony is, this is all being done to ensure that Hamilton is not given any performance advantage over a teammate who was originally demanding that he should be given a performance advantage. 
EDIT: I also agree with Blake - it isn't any business of the FIA anyway, though the comparison with Ferrari has one difference: Ferrari weren't particularly secretive about having a #1 driver, while McLaren are quite public about equality.
Anyway, it is McLaren themselves who apparently put forward the invitation for an inspection, and in doing so they might open themselves up to more FIA action. They don't seem to be finished waving their handbags just yet.
EDIT: I also agree with Blake - it isn't any business of the FIA anyway, though the comparison with Ferrari has one difference: Ferrari weren't particularly secretive about having a #1 driver, while McLaren are quite public about equality.
Anyway, it is McLaren themselves who apparently put forward the invitation for an inspection, and in doing so they might open themselves up to more FIA action. They don't seem to be finished waving their handbags just yet.
- 87,582
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
The irony is, this is all being done to ensure that Hamilton is not given any performance advantage over a teammate who was originally demanding that he should be given a performance advantage.
Quite. This is so totally bizarre. Teams have always had #1 and #2 drivers anyway (else they'd be in the same numbered car). Someone is driver #1. Someone else is driver #2.
Where were the independant (read: countrymen) FIA observers when Mansell was favoured right the way to a Drivers' title? Or when Hill had to play second fiddle to Prost? Or when Schumacher and Barrichello both stamped on the brakes at the finish to allow their team-mate to take then win?
What does it matter if one driver is favoured over the other? It's not like McLaren have a Constructors' championship to fight for any more either.
- 30,021
- Cuddington, Cheshire
- JDA1982
Agreed, Ferrari we're absolutely blatant in favouring Schuey over his team mates. Double standards seem to be coming out this season all over the place.Okay, so it will shut up some nay-sayers. However, I keep asking myself why the FIA is involved at all? There are no rules about equal treatment of drivers (imagine, for one second, if there were. Ferrari reprimanded for 1996–2006, Renault for 2002–2006, etc.). There are no rules against a team manipulating a championship by favouring one driver, and indeed, the only thing remotely relevant in the sporting regulations is…
And that is a regulation that has been ignored until Monaco this season, with most believing that it should be removed from the regulations as a team have the right to decide how best to get a good result in a race and the championship.
The only reason I can think that this is actually happening is because Mosely promised Alonso that he would make sure the team didn’t rape him when he submitted evidence for the hearing. But why is Mosely promising Alonso that Ron will run his team a certain way? Seems rather backward to me…
Not that I disagree with driver equality, and I applaud McLaren for continuing to treat their drivers in this way throughout this (internally) very difficult season. I just think it’s nonsensical that the FIA are involved.
- 33,155
- Hammerhead Garage
Maybe it's just to make Alonso shut up because we're all sick of his whinging ... Fernando, have some concrete. That way you can harden up.
- 1,035
But in this particular case, is that relevant? I'm sure other teams have favoured certain drivers over others, and, to be honest, you cannot really compare this season with any others, I'm pretty sure the FIA would have acted quite differently if the events leading up to this race weren't so...interesting.
The appointment of the official is retarded, there is no doubt about that, McMerc should be able to do what they like with respect to their strategy and planning, but the "FIA loves Ferrari" after every decision made by Ferrari just gets tiring.
- 33,155
- Hammerhead Garage
A team's policy is a team's policy. They cannot be expected to pander to the whims of one of their driver and change their way of doing things entirely. For Alonso - or anyone else - to say that he didn't know that this was team policy is foolish; anyone could see that McLaren have pretty much treated their drivers equally until such time as one of their drivers isn't in the title hunt anymore (case in point: the Hakkinen-Coulthard days when the team would favour Hakkinen once he became the dominant driver).
Similar threads
