Rally if you would be willing to help with the occasional stewarding I will draft up a plan. I would love one or two other people who would be willing to do some occasional stewarding.
I think the most important issue is not so much worrying about penalizing a bunch of minor incidents... but having agreement that lots of bumping and minor incidents is simply annoying when added up within a couple of laps, and should be avoided, for the benefit of civil camaraderie.
I'm in the same chapter as Melon ball. Not quite the same page, but the same chapter for sure. I don't think we need anything like SNAIL runs. That being said, I think we do need some sort of stewardship, nothing crazy, but perhaps just a person or two to do to watch the replays and look for serious offenses, those incidents where someone just creams people, like the Kendawg incident in the replay from last monday. Or for corner cutting and repeat offenders on small things. Something else I would like to note, and this is where I get a bit away from the OLR. I think some amount of contact is fine. Like in the BTCC. That said, I will gladly give up some time for that. Just not yet. Still working on getting my real life situations done (job, school and move) once I get the move done (waiting on the sellers back, word of advice, don't buy a short sale unless you're willing to wait a few months) though, I should be good to go.
Should we impose a no passing until after the first turn rule?
This needs to be all or nothing. No need to complicate a simple thing by trying to figure out what courses should or shouldnt use this rule. That said, I say no. I think that is part of the fun, the mad dash to the first corner is exciting. And since we are running cars in different PP ranges, it gets unpractical. If two people are in high pp cars and the rest of the grid is low pp, but the two start in the back?
Now one point to bring up to the rest. Goats truck was actually the fastest at Cote. With that in mind it might be worth making sure to give that thing a bit more room
But that brings up the issue of disregarding the GtP OLR rules... that the ahead driver has the right to their position and the idea that the passing driver is the one responsible for clean overtake.
This, I will answer, and pose a question with, if you're in a faster car, working on passing a slow car, in a lot of forms of motorsports, its perfectly legit to bump someone off their line and make a pass. Especially the BTCC. But not just that organization, its fine in all sorts of different racing orgs out there. BTCC, whatever the JTCC is now, NASCAR, etc.
here is how Dummies.com puts it
Doing the bump
At short tracks, passing isn't as much of an art as it is a technique. Cars at short tracks are going relatively slowly and there is plenty of downforce which means the cars stick to the track so drivers can be very aggressive without causing a big accident. In order to pass a car in front, the driver doesn't necessarily have to go below him or above him on the track.
All he has to do is give the car a healthy tap called a bump on the rear bumper, as shown in Figure 3. Most of the time that will cause the car to float up the track and give the driver enough room to pass by.
*Citation* The immediately above info was taken from
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/passing-a-nascar-art.html
Edit:
Right, the question. So, Im sure there will be few takers, if any at all. But at those small, hard to pass tracks (Monza, and Eiger come to mind) there are few solid clean passing spots, however, there are plenty of passing spots that this technique will work, without endangering anyone. Would this be something you guys could get on board with?
BTW, this is not what I mean: