◆ SNAIL [DriveTrain Challenge - DTC] Racing - Closed

[kendawg]

The dirt and snow racing is fun in its own way. When you have the right car. Cap racing is set up for street racing. Strategizing the right car for the right track. The offroad tracks create a totally different stratagy that doesn't fit your format. It will make everyone use their 4WD car till the offroad course. This means you have a 3 race format with a offroad race. I don't think this is what we are looking for. 4 tracks picking any of the four drivetrain cars is what you practice for on picking your lineup.

Having a cap race with one track being snow, dirt, weather change & a random track could work, BUT for a different night.

With that being my opionion:

I will vote no more offroad tracks.

 

[kendawg]

I'm bitter. I didnt have a shot today with the lineup I threw together 3 minutes before the start, but not being able to use one car was a bummer.

In case anyone didnt see it...I'd avoid the Legacy B4 POSpecial if at all possible. Trust me.

That car was fast in a straight line. When I was behind you, you would pull on me. But I saw that you couldn't get the thing to stop and turn. I will have to say thanks for using it for I thought about using that same car. Now I know what it will do.

 

[Nexcalibur]

thumbs down (although I've only raced once)

 

[IceWarden]

You can't use dirt for qualifying because the qualifying track is the first race of the night as well.

Not a fan of the dirt last night. Please discontinue this experiment

Btw...what is the PP for Monday and qualifying track?

 

[kendawg]

Btw...what is the PP for Monday and qualifying track?

Waiting to hear from Racefan

 

[jobyone]

Looks like the writing is on the wall

So far we have:
Fzappa:tdown:
Wolfsatz
JoeW/Ice-Warden:tdown:
Kendawg:tdown:
Koszak:tdown:
Chatva
Starvsnr:tdown:
Schmiggz
Diabolicwyvern
Goat

I imagine the dirt track is not going to survive but if you raced last night please place your vote as I would like a majority vote.

Also two questions about last night. Kodak/88GTA has no result for the 4th race. Did he start/finish?

Also what was the track order?

 

[Starvsnr]

No more dirt tracks.

 

[88GTA]

I was last out of 6 in the 4th race (dirt)

 

[kendawg]

Track Order

Autumn Ring (Qualifier)
Deep Forest
Monza
Dirt Track (Eiger Nordwand)

 

[kendawg]

Need to know what the PP Cap is for tomorrow night so we/I can set a linup.

 

[Schmiggz]

I'm bitter. I didnt have a shot today with the lineup I threw together 3 minutes before the start, but not being able to use one car was a bummer.

In case anyone didnt see it...I'd avoid the Legacy B4 POSpecial if at all possible. Trust me.

For me, this competition has been a constant car try out and, unfortunately, i had some really bad choices in the past and the Alfa Romeo GTV is the first crapy vehicle that comes to my mind. The Skyline Type S is another avoidable choice.
Yeah, all you do is get rid of those bad choices and keep trying new things.

 

[Schmiggz]

Frank (Zappa), don't feel too bad about it. It was an experiment that wasn't fully appreciated but nothing more than that. I had some fun going down that hill and after lap 3 i managed to make the whole section without crashing my poor ff Honda Civic and still had a bonus of a 2 lap battle with star.

 

[Schmiggz]

Should we try Diabolic's suggestion? Nascar in Chamonix? Ahahahahahahahahahah

 

[88GTA]

Need to know what the PP Cap is for tomorrow night so we/I can set a linup.

Unlimited pp total for tomorrow night but we are running Kart Space all four times.

 

[jobyone]

Need to know what the PP Cap is for tomorrow night so we/I can set a linup.

I have sent Race a PM. If we do not hear from him soon lets do the same PP as last week.

 

[kendawg]

I have sent Race a PM. If we do not hear from him soon lets do the same PP as last week.

I say lets go ahead and run last weeks pp Cap (1685) since it is the day before. That way I can work on a lineup tonight.

 

[IceWarden]

Werd!

 

[Handlebar]

So 1685 total, what are the high/low points for cars?

 

[kendawg]

So 1685 total, what are the high/low points for cars?

I would say 360 and 485.
That is 15% of the avg. mean.

 

[kendawg]

Monday 4/22 lineup:

FF (414) Suzuki S2 '03
4WD (428) Audi TT Quattro '03
MR (411) Toyota MR2 '97
FR (431) BMW 330i '05

Total = 1684pp

 

[jobyone]

I say lets go ahead and run last weeks pp Cap (1685) since it is the day before. That way I can work on a lineup tonight.

good idea I will update the post

 

[Schmiggz]

Sunday April 22

FF: Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus `00 - 415pp
FR: BMW Z4 `03 - 427pp
MR: Hommel Berlinette coupe `99 - 401pp
4WD: Mitsubishi CZ3 Tarmac `01 - 441pp

total: 1684pp

 

[IceWarden]

Tentative Monday:
FF: Civic type r 396PP
4wd: 205t 414pp
MR: Renault sport lutecia '01 441PP
FR: s2000 type v '01 434PP

1685PP

 

[88GTA]

4WD: Mitsubishi Legnum VR-4 Type V '98 426pp

FR: Mugen S2000 '00 433pp

MR: Honda NSX Type S '99 451pp

FF: Spoon CR-Z 375pp

Total: 1685

I'm testing this line up after work.

 

[88GTA]

Line up:

4WD: Audi TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro '03 428pp

FR: Honda S2000 '06 431pp

MR: Opel Speedster '00 410pp

FF: TRD Celica Sports M '00 416pp

Total: 1685

4 cars from the same decade +1pts

 

[88GTA]

Chrysler Crossfire '04

12,371 miles
Engine rebuild
FR
423pp

 

[jobyone]

Official Announcement

Even though the voting is not complete it does appear that the 👎 will outnumber the 👍 for the Dirt Track.

So the Dirt Tracks will no longer be an option for the Wildcard tracks.

I am also going to suggest (unless there is a lot of protest) that the snow/ice tracks should aslo be removed. I think Kendawg nailed it here

The dirt and snow racing is fun in its own way. When you have the right car. Cap racing is set up for street racing. Strategizing the right car for the right track. The offroad tracks create a totally different stratagy that doesn't fit your format. It will make everyone use their 4WD car till the offroad course. This means you have a 3 race format with a offroad race.

So with that I will update the post. And moving forward Performance Cap Racing is a Tarmac only event.

Have fun tonight.

edit - Does anyone remember how many laps were run on each track Saturday?

 

[Handlebar]

OK, I am trying the Min-Max numbers, just for 'what-ifs'


MR2 1600 G '86 - 359 PP - MR
307 XSi '04 -363 PP - FF
Lancer Evolution VII RS '01 - 479 PP - 4WD
Roadster TC - 484 PP - FR

 

[jobyone]

A few notes about the results from Saturday.

1. I have applied a penalty for anyone that was over the 1720 PP limit based on our Known PP spreadsheet. For each PP over the limit the driver is docked 1 point. If you want to question the PP on the spreadsheet please let me know. I must stress that at this point it is important that you use the values from the list. If nothing is listed then please state your cars PP and we will add it to the list. We will continue to refine the list as information is provided.

2. Thanks to having the complete lineup provided (thanks to Koszak:tup: ) there were three people who received a Challenge Bonus:tup:

So the overall winner is Kendawg You can choose either the qualifying track or a new PP. The PP can be between 1400-2000 but should be at least 100 away from 1720.

Second place is currently unofficial while we sort out some PP desrepencies - You will be able to choose either the PP or Track depending on Kendawgs choice.

The Overall results for the 4/20/13 1720 PP Performance Cap Race

The track order was
1. Autumn Ring
2. Deep Forest
3. Monza with Chicanes
4. Eiger Nord Dirt

1. Kendawg - 55 [-0 (+1 for 4 cars same decade) (-1 for 1721 PP)]
2. Starvsnr - 54
3. Schmiggz - 51 [-1 (+1 for 4 cars same decade) (-2 for 1722 PP)]
4. JoeW/Ice-Warden - 50 [-4 (-4 for 1724 PP)]
5. Koszak - 45 [+1 (+1 for 4 cars same decade)]
6. Diabolicwyvern - 39*
7. tcrash15 - 37 [-10 (-10 for 1730 PP)]
8. Wolfsatz - 31*
9. Goat - 28*
10. Chatva - 24*

*suffered discos or did not race in all races.

ps. I will work on making the points more readable

 

[IceWarden]

You can drive the same car as someone else. No problem.

My tentative lineup for Saturday.

NSX '90...444PP
RX8 CONCEPT II...450PP
CIVIC TYPE R '01...411PP
205T...414PP

1719PP.

All my cars are low miles with engine rebuilds. Definitely 1719PP.