◆ SNAIL [DriveTrain Challenge - DTC] Racing - Closed

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JLBowler
PP for next week will be 2000.

Also, the lowest awd car that fits regulations is at 334pp (unless someone has one that is closer to 326). I know in the past when I only ran three races, I had to subtract the lowest availiable car's pp total and not just the lowest legal number. It would make sense that FastFox440 should have to post an actual car that met regulations to count against the PP cap. If this is the case, he was well over 1450 and Kendawg should get second place.
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I think JL is right here. Since fast ran a car that was not to spec I feel that docking him points based on how far out of spec the car was makes sense. So in this instance it would be a 12 pt penalty. That being said I hope you guys had fun and I hate that I am not there to help increase the numbers.

Edit- and my ruling has nothing to do with the fact that JL drove my real life car and won the night! Go Element!
 
jobyone
hmm. let me see what I can do...

In the meantime lets figure out which three tracks of the new offerings we want to run in December.
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As tempting as it is to go Bathurst, Bathurst, Bathurst, I won't as I don't want to turn it into Spa which was used to death when it was released and, as such, was not as enjoyable as it should have been.

So I'll take Brands Hatch (now if GT6 have the BTCC cars like they did in GT2, I'll be set, lol), Ascari and Silverstone since many of us have probably driven this in GTA so it'll be a bit familiar :)
 
jobyone
I think JL is right here. Since fast ran a car that was not to spec I feel that docking him points based on how far out of spec the car was makes sense. So in this instance it would be a 12 pt penalty. That being said I hope you guys had fun and I hate that I am not there to help increase the numbers.

Edit- and my ruling has nothing to do with the fact that JL drove my real life car and won the night! Go Element!
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I went with what was available. I do not have the massive garages that most you guys have. The Suzuki was the only low pp 4wd vehicle i had..
 
jobyone
I am actually a bit disappointed in the car list. seems like mostly race cars and some old iron. Not much new from the 80's 90's.
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I may be most excited about the cars returning. New physics and if they only look 50% better than GT5 standards I'm still happy.

Hope racing last night went well guys. I'm so bummed that I have missed the last three weeks but work has been crazy and I have had to go in even earlier so staying up racing until midnight would be crazy. I hope next week will be better.

Track votes:
Willow Springs (soooo pumped for this track)
Mt. Panorama
Silverstone
 
All these new tracks...it will take a lot of practice to learn these well enough to race them. Which bums me out because I have almost no free time.
 
Yea tell me about it. It will take me a year to try all the new cars, features and tracks if I can only play 4-5 hrs per week.
 
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88GTA
Yea tell me about it. It will take me a year to try all the new cars, features and tracks if I can only play 4-5 hrs per week.
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I hear you guys. Without b-spec it will be hard to get the money to buy the cars. That being said I just love driving with you guys when I get the chance so any track time even unstructured is fun.
 
Brands Hatch, Gran Turismo Arena, and Ascari. We need some shorter tracks in the mix if we're going to run such low PP cars. 360 PP on a three mile track with long straights just doesn't get it done.
 
What about these ideas?

In our races make it so we can detune cars up to a certain percentage to meet a PP number? This would still be a tuning prohibited race.

Another idea, maybe have some races where we can tune the cars but the PP values of the cars still have to match the list? This would allow tranny, suspension, etc tuning to meet regs. You could add ballast, adjust everything but still need to meet the PP of our list.

Just throwing ideas out there....

I ran in a couple of public rooms with some very clean racing and it was nice to drive some of my old tuned cars for a change. My old BTR is actually fun with ballast and suspension tuning :)
 
Good ideas there Joe. I'll throw mine from last night out there for everyone to see. Run the night in two sections more or less. Have the first two races be at 800 PP combined and the last two at 1000 PP combined to make for an 1800 PP night. It might take some tweaking to the tire regs but it would allow some low and higher powered cars to be run thus giving more variety. You could choose when to run each drivetrain as long as you still ran one each of the four.
 
I like the idea of trying some other options. How about we have a tuning night. So if the PP was 2000 all your cars had to be tuned to 500pp. You would still have to use all four drive trains. You could also run the normal untuned cars if you wanted so it would be a bit of a mix and match.
JLBowler
Good ideas there Joe. I'll throw mine from last night out there for everyone to see. Run the night in two sections more or less. Have the first two races be at 800 PP combined and the last two at 1000 PP combined to make for an 1800 PP night. It might take some tweaking to the tire regs but it would allow some low and higher powered cars to be run thus giving more variety. You could choose when to run each drivetrain as long as you still ran one each of the four.
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This is interesting
 
I've received word that the TV is mine until about 8pm tonight, muahaha. Anyone feel like doing a little testing and racing?

Test Line-up:
Spoon Civic '00 455pp
Alfa Romeo 155 TI V6 '93 546pp
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00 508pp
Ferrari 512BB '76 488pp
 
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Hey guys. I have been looking at the PP for GT6 and I am pretty sure that the values are going to be the same. The images that show the PP in the dealership of GT6 correspond to the PP of cars bought in GT5. For some reason the PP in the GT5 dealership is higher than when you by the car but the value of a bought car in GT5 is the same as the dealership PP in GT6. With that in mind I would love to try to complete the Known PP list. I have been slowly reducing the number of cars that we do not have 100% accurate numbers for. It is currently less than 140 cars. I will post the list below and if you could take a few minutes to check your garages against the list and let me know if you have any PP values for a broken in car from the list it would be appreciated

Buick Special
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) '63
Dodge Challenger R/T '70
Gillet Vertigo Race Car '04
Gran Turismo RACING KART Jr.
Honda CR-Z α '10
Honda HSC '03
Honda INSIGHT LS '09
Honda NSX '95
Honda NSX Type S '97
Infiniti FX45 Concept '02
Jay leno Tank Car '03
Lancia STRATOS Rally Car '77
Lexus Weds Sport IS350 '08
Mazda 323F '93
Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92
Mazda éfini RX-7 Type RS (FD) '96
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited (NA) '91
Mazda Mazdaspeed Atenza '05
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata S-Special I (NA, J) '95
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) '96
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '93
Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02
Mini MINI COOPER S '05
Mini MINI COOPER S Countryman '11
Mitsubishi GTO SR '98
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR P.P. '07
Mitsubishi MINICA DANGAN ZZ '89
Nissan 370Z Tuned Car (GT Academy) '08
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX TT 2seater (Z32) '89
Nissan GT-R '07
Nissan GT-R Black edition '12
Nissan GT-R Black edition (GT Academy) '12
Nissan GT-R Black Mask
Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy ’12
Nissan GT-R Proto '05
Nissan GT-R SpecV '09
Nissan March 12SR '07
Nissan PAO '89
Nissan PRIMERA 2.0Te '90
Nissan SILVIA K's (S13) '88
Nissan SILVIA Q's (S13) '91
Nissan SILVIA Q's AERO (S14) '93
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (GT Academy) '02
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) '02
Nissan SILVIA Varietta (S15) '00
Nissan SKYLINE HT 2000 Turbo RS (R30) '83
Peugeot 307 CC Premium AVN '04
RE Amemiya AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 '04
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi Version III '96
Subaru LEGACY Touring Wagon GT-B '96
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) '91
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) '95
Tesla Motors Tesla Roadster '08
Toyota PRIUS G '09
Toyota RSC '01
Toyota Yaris F (J) '99
TVR V8S '91
Volvo 240 GLT Estate '88
 
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jobyone
Hey guys. I have been looking at the PP for GT6 and I am pretty sure that the values are going to be the same. The images that show the PP in the dealership of GT6 correspond to the PP of cars bought in GT5. For some reason the PP in the GT5 dealership is higher than when you by the car but the value of a bought car in GT5 is the same as the dealership PP in GT6. With that in mind I would love to try to complete the Known PP list. I have been slowly reducing the number of cars that we do not have 100% accurate numbers for. It is currently less than 140 cars. I will post the list below and if you could take a few minutes to check your garages against the list and let me know if you have any PP values for a broken in car from the list it would be appreciated.

Acura DN-X Concept '02 532
Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TWIN SPARK '02 372
Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V '01 402
Audi S4 '98 435
Audi TT Coupe 1.8T quattro '00 413
BMW Z4 '03
Buick Special
Chevrolet Camaro SS '00 467
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) '63
Citroën C4 WRC '08
Citroën Xantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive '00 389
Daihatsu MIRA TR-XX Avanzato R '97 335
Daihatsu MOVE SR-XX 2WD '97 319
Daihatsu SIRION CX 2WD (J) '98 291
Dodge Challenger R/T '70
Ford Focus RS WRC 07 '08
Gillet Vertigo Race Car '04
Gran Turismo RACING KART Jr.
Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S '70 346
Honda ACCORD Coupe '88
Honda ACCORD Euro-R '02 404
Honda CIVIC SiR-II (EG) '91
Honda CIVIC SiR-II (EG) '93 388
Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EP, EU) '01 412
Honda CR-Z α '10
Honda HSC '03
Honda INSIGHT LS '09
Honda NSX '95
Honda NSX '97 450
Honda NSX Type S '97
Hyundai Tuscani CCS '03
Infiniti FX45 Concept '02
Infiniti G20 '90 373
Jay leno Tank Car '03
Lancia STRATOS Rally Car '77
Lexus IS 200 (J) '98 403
Lexus Weds Sport IS350 '08
Lotus Elise 111R RM '04
Mazda 323F '93
Mazda Atenza Sports 23Z '03 389
Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92
Mazda éfini RX-7 Type RS (FD) '96
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited (NA) '91
Mazda Eunos Roadster VR-Limited (NA) '95 367
Mazda Mazda6 Touring Car 506
Mazda Mazdaspeed Atenza '05
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata S-Special I (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 S-Special I (NA, J) '95 367
Mazda MX-5 V-Special II (NA, J) '93 368
Mazda MX-Crossport Concept '05 432
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) '96
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '93
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '95 440
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '96 448
Mazda SAVANNA RX-7 INFINI III (FC) '90 418
Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02
Mini MINI COOPER S '05
Mini MINI COOPER S '07
Mini MINI COOPER S Countryman '11
Mitsubishi 3000GT MR (J) '98 462
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '95 404
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '96 406
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) '96 457
Mitsubishi ECLIPSE Spyder GTS '03 406
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R '97 410
Mitsubishi FTO GPX '97 408
Mitsubishi GTO SR '98
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR P.P. '07
Mitsubishi LEGNUM VR-4 Type V '98 427
Mitsubishi MINICA DANGAN ZZ '89
Nissan 180SX Type X '96 416
Nissan 200SX '96 416
Nissan 200SX (S14) '96 423
Nissan 370Z Tuned Car (GT Academy) '08
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX TT 2seater (Z32) '89
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX Ver.S TT 2seater (Z32) '98 445
Nissan GT-R '07
Nissan GT-R Black edition '12
Nissan GT-R Black edition (GT Academy) '12
Nissan GT-R Black Mask
Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy ’12
Nissan GT-R Proto '05
Nissan GT-R SpecV '09
Nissan March 12SR '07
Nissan PAO '89
Nissan PRIMERA 2.0Te '90
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) '01 396
Nissan SILVIA K's (S13) '88
Nissan SILVIA K's Dia Selection (S13) '90
Nissan SILVIA Q's (S13) '88 365
Nissan SILVIA Q's (S13) '91
Nissan SILVIA Q's AERO (S14) '93
Nissan SILVIA Q's AERO (S14) '96 380
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (GT Academy) '02
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) '02
Nissan SILVIA Varietta (S15) '00
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V・spec (R32) '93 458
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V・spec N1 (R32) '93 459
Nissan SKYLINE HT 2000 RS-X Turbo C (R30) '84 407
Nissan SKYLINE HT 2000 Turbo RS (R30) '83
Peugeot 307 CC Premium AVN '04
RE Amemiya AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 '04
RE Amemiya Amemiya FD3S RX-7
Renault Sport Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 '03 438
Renault Sport Lutecia Renault Sport V6 Phase2 '03 438
Scion xA '03 340
Subaru IMPREZA Rally Car '99 498
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi '94 445
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi Version II '95 446
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi Version III '96
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi Version IV '97 458
Subaru IMPREZA WRC 2008
Subaru LEGACY B4 Blitzen '00 445
Subaru LEGACY Touring Wagon 2.0GT '03 448
Subaru LEGACY Touring Wagon GT-B '96
Suzuki ALTO LAPIN Turbo '02 296
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) '91
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) '95
Suzuki SX4 WRC '08
Tesla Motors Tesla Roadster '08
Toyota CELICA 2000GT-FOUR (ST165) '86 395
Toyota CELICA GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST185) '95 498
Toyota CELICA GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST205) '95
Toyota CELICA GT-R (ST183, 4WS) '91 376
Toyota MR-S V Edition (6MT) '02 385
Toyota PRIUS G '09
Toyota PRIUS TC
Toyota RSC '01
Toyota SERA '92 347
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO BZ-R '98 393
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX '83 365
Toyota SUPRA 2.5GT Twin Turbo R '90 441
Toyota VITZ F '99 311
Toyota VOLTZ S '02 348
Toyota Yaris F (J) '99
TVR V8S '91
Volkswagen New Beetle 2.0 '00 336
Volvo 240 GLT Estate '88
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If you expand the quote, you can see what I added. Hopefully you find that helpful.
 
BMW Z4 '03 427pp
Lotus Elise 111R '04 RM 524pp
Hyundai Tuscani CCS '03 386pp
Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) '91 386pp
Honda Accord Coupe '88 347pp

C7 Prototype is 533pp broken in.
 
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Daytona style. Too bad we can't race there at night yet.

I'm racing tonight:
Spoon 455pp
Mitsubishi 511pp
Chevy 533pp
Acura 497pp
 
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Have fun tonight. There is a small chance you may see me later in the evening.

Also thanks for the PP updates. It is great to see the number of cars I need info for down to less than 70:)
 
Pretty sure it is in there based on there still being an engine overhaul option:(

Did anyone else read Jordan's hands on article? Sounds like the GT86 triplets handle more like real life. I hope this brings to life some of the better ff cars.

If you have not voted for the new tracks please post your votes.
 

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