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- Indiana-USA
- OwensRacing
◆ SNAIL [Spec] Racing - Currently Recruiting for GT7 - JOIN TODAY!!Open
- Thread starter zer05ive
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- 549
- louisiana
- the2armedmen
I thought I was emphasizing respect to all, unless I am just expecting too much out of the snail community (which I don't think I am)
- 3,613
- New England
- jobyone71
Well it is with some regret that I must let you know that I will be stepping away from GT5 for a while. I am not sure how long this will last but life just continues to get in the way and for now I need to step back. This may only be for a few weeks or a few months but at the moment I will need to relinquish my S.N.A.I.L. responsibilities (stewarding, colors and welcome posts).
Being apart of this group has been a real pleasure and when I return to GT5 the first thing I do will be coming back to S.N.A.I.L. I want to especially thank zer05ive, kcheeb and all the stewards for the work they do. If you have not helped out before I highly suggest that you volunteer some time and pitch in. All the people that volunteer their time to run this league deserve a huge round of applause.
And now to my baby the Performance Cap racing. JoeW and Wolfsatz will work to keep it going in my absence. I will not totally be gone as I will continue to be in the thread and keep the opening posts and schedules going as long as people are wanting to race. But they will take over the running of the Monday and Saturday events.
Thanks for all the great racing and practice time. And in the words of the T800 "I'll be back"
Joby
Being apart of this group has been a real pleasure and when I return to GT5 the first thing I do will be coming back to S.N.A.I.L. I want to especially thank zer05ive, kcheeb and all the stewards for the work they do. If you have not helped out before I highly suggest that you volunteer some time and pitch in. All the people that volunteer their time to run this league deserve a huge round of applause.
And now to my baby the Performance Cap racing. JoeW and Wolfsatz will work to keep it going in my absence. I will not totally be gone as I will continue to be in the thread and keep the opening posts and schedules going as long as people are wanting to race. But they will take over the running of the Monday and Saturday events.
Thanks for all the great racing and practice time. And in the words of the T800 "I'll be back"
Joby
Handlebar
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- 3,969
- Herndon, VA
- HandlebarMustash
Jobyone,
Good luck and best wishes. Choosing real life over games is not always as 'fun' but it is a no-brainer on the priority list. Hope all is well.
2armed,
I did not follow your claim of bias being confirmed. The people who responded to DrGreenThumb were talking about when to personally file an inquiry, not on how racing issues are decided or penalized.
- 757
- Paradise
- Drrgreenthumb67
- Forzajealousguys of gt5
the2armedmen
Its just because with that system it will become a talk**** tread. Dirty drivers can change and they dont need to be blast by the public. Everybody can have his chance. Thats why its better anonymous. The steward really focus on dirty drivers to change. I dont have to screen name of who left by dirty driving.(hehe)
kcheeb
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- 4,753
- Alberta
- kcheeb
- kcheeb
Hey Joby,
Thank you for everything you've done for S.N.A.I.L. 👍 Your involvement is one of the most selfless things I've seen in S.N.A.I.L.. You spent a great deal of time helping with stats, colours, welcoming and racing series. All this without being able to race regularly.
As Handlebar said, real life takes a priority, I hope your return is sooner than later.
Thanks again
kcheeb
- 1,150
- SW, Missouri
- Luv2Coach
Hey fellow D2 drivers, I want to apologize for jumping back in the race after I had sat a lap or two. When my ds3 died at the start of the race, then "rebooted" again and I hit a second wall (ya'll didn't see that one), I should have sat out for the remainder. I made a bad decision in that I reentered the race which could have hindered one or more of you. I fell in behind serge to try to learn "his secret" that night at Spa. He mastered that course. After some more frustration, a penalty, etc. I vented with a few doughnuts. That was not the best time or place to vent; I would not suggest it. I apologize for a replay that was less than desirable to watch. And just for the record, I made the decision to stay in the center of the track after my penalty because I thought it was the safest place to be in that section. Coming out of that high speed turn, the line is usually to the left side of the track and I wanted to keep that clear. With cars fast approaching I thought if I just stayed in the center they had time to pick a side rather than react to me moving to one side or the other. I apologize if this threw anyone off, I made the decision that I thought was safest for you.
To the stewards, I just want to say I wasn't "seeking" revenge in regards to an incident in the previous race. I had a "momentary lapse of reason" when I re-entered and then later vented with the doughnuts. Not the time or place, period. Zer05ive has stuck his neck out for me and I want to thank him for that and let you know he did not make a bad decision. I will continue to drive like I have over the past two weeks, less any venting displays.
To the stewards, I just want to say I wasn't "seeking" revenge in regards to an incident in the previous race. I had a "momentary lapse of reason" when I re-entered and then later vented with the doughnuts. Not the time or place, period. Zer05ive has stuck his neck out for me and I want to thank him for that and let you know he did not make a bad decision. I will continue to drive like I have over the past two weeks, less any venting displays.
Oshawa-Joe
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- Hillsdale
- Oshawa-Joe
Your Steward Report for the Week
Division 1
JLBowler / jlbowler
- Round 3 Race 1 incident
Level 1 - 2 points - one week probation
- Round 2 Race 2 incident
Level 1 - 4 points - one week probation
- Round 1 Race 1 incident
Level 3 - 12 points halved to 6 points for concession made, doubled to 12 for probation- 3 weeks probation
- Round 2 Race 2 incident possibly resulting from continued lag issues.
Level 4 - 14 points - 4 weeks probation
Division 2
AG07WRXTR / AG07WRXTR
- Round 2 Race 1
Level 1 - 2 points - 1 week probation
Luv2Coach / Luv2Coach
- Round 2 Race 1 incident
Level 1 - 4 points halved to 2 points for self report and concession, doubled to 4 for probation - Round 3 Race 2 incident
Level 2 - 8 points doubled to 16 for probation - Round 3 Race 2 incidents involving unsafe reentry and various issues
Level 2 - 6 points doubled to 12 for probation
Total of 32 points - 6 weeks probation/FCL continues
- Round 3 Race 1 incident
Level 2 - 8 points halved to 4 for self report - 2 weeks probation
* * * * * * * * * *
These changes affect the final standings.
Full final results can be found here.
***If you were penalized and would like further explanation regarding the incident, just PM your Division Steward and they will let you know what the stewards saw and our opinions on it.***
- 7,689
- Michigan
- Rallywgn81
ATTENTION!
The SNAIL market is now open for business.
This is currently in a prototype stage. The market will be set up for SNAILS looking for cars, tickets, paint chips and any other items that are tradeable. I'm also looking for duping volunteers for a paint chip "cycle" system to send a flow of paint chips to fellow SNAILS that have requested colors in the SNAIL color and number chart. My hope is that this will get more SNAILS running unique colors. However, in order of this to work well, I will need as many people volunteering their duping abilities as possible. If you feel you can do this, please send me a PM.
Here is the link to the market place. it is a closed group, so please send the request and I will add you to the group.
Nothing follows.
BTW, I am not a premium member, so my inbox may fill up quick, depending on the popularity of the market. if this is the case please be patient, I will be checking my inbox as often as I can, but I am a full time student, employee, and father, so it may take a minute or two.
The SNAIL market is now open for business.
This is currently in a prototype stage. The market will be set up for SNAILS looking for cars, tickets, paint chips and any other items that are tradeable. I'm also looking for duping volunteers for a paint chip "cycle" system to send a flow of paint chips to fellow SNAILS that have requested colors in the SNAIL color and number chart. My hope is that this will get more SNAILS running unique colors. However, in order of this to work well, I will need as many people volunteering their duping abilities as possible. If you feel you can do this, please send me a PM.
Here is the link to the market place. it is a closed group, so please send the request and I will add you to the group.
Nothing follows.
BTW, I am not a premium member, so my inbox may fill up quick, depending on the popularity of the market. if this is the case please be patient, I will be checking my inbox as often as I can, but I am a full time student, employee, and father, so it may take a minute or two.
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- 757
- Paradise
- Drrgreenthumb67
- Forzajealousguys of gt5
Thanks for all the stewards report for make that league clean!!!!!!!
- 549
- louisiana
- the2armedmen
handlebar and greenthumb you two admitted to being at least somewhat biased. i made my first comment because greenthumb didnt want to complain about one of his friends, and then handleba u followed suit and said u dont like to complain about people who dont get penalties very often (do i need to put quotes?)
- 5,912
- Texas
- zer05ive
Joby,
I really can't thank you enough for all of the time and effort you've put into the league. And as cheeb touched on earlier, you did all of it while barely even being able to participate in any racing. That kind of selflessness won't be forgotten. I wish you the best of luck with your RL stuff. You know you've always got a home in S.N.A.I.L.
Handlebar
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- Herndon, VA
- HandlebarMustash
2arm,
I did not realize you were being so literal. Can you think of a situation where humans do not have a bias when they interact with one another? That's kind of a "Gee, no kidding" moment isn't it?
I was referring to the alleged bias by the stewards that I have heard of lately. Again there maybe a little bit, But we go out of our way to be as fair as possible To everyone. It sounds like we are having two different conversations, no worries.
I did not realize you were being so literal. Can you think of a situation where humans do not have a bias when they interact with one another? That's kind of a "Gee, no kidding" moment isn't it?
I was referring to the alleged bias by the stewards that I have heard of lately. Again there maybe a little bit, But we go out of our way to be as fair as possible To everyone. It sounds like we are having two different conversations, no worries.
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- louisiana
- the2armedmen
- 757
- Paradise
- Drrgreenthumb67
- Forzajealousguys of gt5
the2armedmen
I didnt talked about the complaints I didnt do but the feelings and opinions to all about filing a complaint. Im not here since longtime and when i came here in that league. And I just asked all about that. Nothing was worried in my mind about that. I dont want to make my tread a subject of a problem because we have a very good team to work for us.
- 7,689
- Michigan
- Rallywgn81
Arguing is horrible, I prefer debates.
- 757
- Paradise
- Drrgreenthumb67
- Forzajealousguys of gt5
Drgreenthumb977
1 sentence are not here sorry. When I came here I was not very worried about file a complaints because I was a new in snail.
- 1,028
- United States
- GTP_racefan78
So, question about boundaries. Are we allowed to go outside the white lines on the front straight of Trial Mountain and after the first chicane? I know there are rumble strips in the chicane itself which serve as the boundaries, but what about before and after them? I saw several people going all the way out to the wall in practice.
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- Canton, Ohio
- JESter82178
Oshawa-Joe
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- Hillsdale
- Oshawa-Joe
We base much of our system on what is done in the GTP WRS and I believe they ignore the white lines at Trial Mountain. I'll confirm tonight. However it is easy to get caught out/boxed out going into corners.
- 1,150
- SW, Missouri
- Luv2Coach
Then penalties were off b/c I saw ppl going all 4 outside that line & no penalties. I'm just checking so I don't penalized for going ob there or anywhere else. I'm assuming that is not an infraction that gets a steward penalty since none were assessed.
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- DrKronin
If I remember right, when we ran Trial Mountain (normal, not reverse) in the past, the white lines on either side of that chicane were ignored. Even if I do remember that right, I don't believe there's an official ruling for the reverse version. I would assume that we would use the same boundaries. If I'm mistaken, someone please speak up. (Edit: Tex, if this differs from what I told you yesterday, I apologize. My opinion on this has evolved a bit in the last 24 hours as I remembered how we ruled on the forward version of this track).
In any case, I believe what dabney says is right. If you're all the way to the left after that chicane (up against the wall), and there's a driver to your right, he only needs to leave you just enough room to keep two wheels on the rumble strip once the wall ends. For this reason, it's best to avoid using that area, and if you end up there, move back quickly to hold your spot (assuming that move wouldn't cause a collision, of course). Again, if I'm wrong about that, someone please correct me.
In any case, I believe what dabney says is right. If you're all the way to the left after that chicane (up against the wall), and there's a driver to your right, he only needs to leave you just enough room to keep two wheels on the rumble strip once the wall ends. For this reason, it's best to avoid using that area, and if you end up there, move back quickly to hold your spot (assuming that move wouldn't cause a collision, of course). Again, if I'm wrong about that, someone please correct me.
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- 5,912
- Texas
- zer05ive
While I was disappointed to see your behavior during that race, you technically didn't violate any of the parameters that I laid out for you. All of the penalties you accumulated on Sunday night were more about poor decision making or lack of emotional control than they were about "aggressive driving". Unfortunately for you, these penalties extend your probation period back to the maximum 6-weeks (just like anybody else on probation who incurs penalties while already on probation).
However, this time around I'm going to modify the terms of your probation so that your overall decision making will be grounds for termination and not just how aggressively you drive. Here are the new terms of your "last chance" probation:
While you are on "last chance" probation, any steward who believes that you exhibit poor behavior or decision-making (on the track or on the thread) can motion to terminate you from the league. If that occurs, a vote will be put in in the stewards forum and the majority vote will determine your fate.
There you have it. It's relatively simple and straight-forward IMO. The best strategy for you would be to not give anyone any reason to put you up for a vote. As I mentioned during our chat last night, I feel like you have the potential to be a valued member of the league. Hopefully you prove me right, but only time will tell.. In the meantime, please acknowledge that you've read and understand these new "last chance" probation terms.
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- louisiana
- the2armedmen
