♦SNAIL WRRC (CLOSED)PS4
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FYI to all drivers. There will be no defaulting to D2 if TT's are not submitted. Any drivers who fail to submit a TT prior to race time Tuesday will not receive invites and will not race until the TT has been submitted. This time trial has little to do with our current divisional placement, but serves as a baseline for future drivers. A multi-divisional series must have a reliable method of placement that can be quantifiable against a known standard. That standard is what we are creating.
DesertPenguin09
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Is everyone's car and track combo the same?
- 4,566
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- Lessenjr
Yes, and just like the GT6 series, it's hush hush from public forum. 👍
- 4,566
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- Lessenjr
Yes, post #2 includes the current divisional placement for S11.
No. Scoring is always straight up according to lobby count. One room gets one set of scoring. Two rooms get two sets of scoring. If lobby count changes mid-evening, all drivers will still be racing under the same circumstances so scoring remains fair. There is no reason to score separately in the same lobby.
- 3,005
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- aerolite
I might be reading this wrong.
So, week 1, 18 drivers show up, two rooms race, D1 and D2 each scored separately for their own seasonal championship.
Week 2, only 15 drivers show up, so both div's combined in one room. You are saying there is no reason to score separately here? If that is so then that is not fair. Week 1, D2 driver has much better chance of podium, therefore more points. Week 2, D2 drivers have almost no chance of podium so less points. If the highest D2 driver in the combined room finishes 5th, he should still get 1st place points for D2. This keeps it fair week to week. This would be the same as real racing in sports cars for example, where different classes run together but are still scored separately.
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- Lessenjr
Two points to make:
- This is not multi-class racing. We are all driving the same car. A single lobby is a single race, therefor a single set of points. The only division is talent which obviously occurs in all competitive environments.
- The point spread between positions is linear through the field (a single point difference between each finishing position from 1st-2nd & 15th-16th). There is no payout disadvantage to D2 drivers if they are racing for 10th-16th (with D1) or racing for 1st-8th (D2 alone). If you beat your D2 rival for one position on track it makes no difference whether it's for 3rd or 13th, it's still one point.
- 3,005
- Merrickville, Ont.
- aerolite
I see what you're trying to say but my thinking is a bit different for a combined night. Lets take the 15 driver scenario again. Lets say the first placed D2 driver finishes 5th, then the second placed D2 driver finishes 9th with D1 guys in 6,7 & 8th. So first D2 driver gets 11 points and second D2 driver gets 7, that's a four point spread, whereas if divisions were scored separately, or if we were in two rooms, the spread would only be 1 point. Also the D1 drivers in 6,7 and 8, would also get one point less each. So regardless of the number of points, the separation of drivers (and points) has the potential of being greater in the combined room.
We are, in effect, racing multi-class as we now have two official divisions and there will be a disparity of point spreads between separate and combined rooms.
I hope this makes sense!
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I understand your point. At the end of the day though, it's not multi-class racing. Talent is still the sole divisor in a combined room. Everybody has a right to race for all positions. Pointing toward your example, I find that to be appropriate, that D2 guy would deserve the points he gained over the D1 guys.
Now as I'm working at my actual job and thinking about this I do see a problem when it comes to absenteeism and how certain conditions could create an advantage for one driver over another.
Still, I'm Leary of creating a situation where drivers are letting others go by in a spec room because the points don't matter, that's not what this is supposed to be about.
The fix all is simply not to combine divisions, but we're not there yet.
Thinking...
- 3,005
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- aerolite
I'd like to know what his wife/girlfriend was saying to him!
He put all that work into it and then just left the stock pedal setup on the floor. You think he would have mounted them inverted in the same area as the real pedals would go. A ton of work no less!
Speaking of pedals, I took the rubber peice out of my new G29 brake and put my GTEye spring in, now it's the same as my G27 pedals were, much better!
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Hey guys the future of PSEC depends on the drivers and we are taking a poll right now to help decide the future of the series. So anyone interested in another night of racing possibly Saturday's possibly Wednesday's please head over to the form in my signature and please fill it out. We need all the drivers possible to answer so check it out and have a say in another day of snail racing.
- 3,005
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- aerolite
It is a progressive spring so the more you press the harder it gets, but you can still bottom it out. The last bit of travel with the rubber piece in the stock set up is a lot harder to press. They just took a piece of rubber 1/2 x 1/2 x 1 in long and stuck it in the bottom of the spring! It is really easy to change the springs. Here is a couple of pics of what the stock spring and rubber look like.
Here is the GTEye spring for comparison. The closer pitch end goes at the bottom inside your housing.
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DesertPenguin09
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And it's all just screws? I'm afraid of messing with electronics.
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- Gr8_Lakes
If it's the same as G27, which I believe it to be, yes. Just screws and a allen head machine screw on the pedal. But it's a bit fiddly trying to get all the wires in the proper place to put it back together. Not difficult, just fiddly. There are excellent how to videos on Youtube that walk you through it.
And... a chunk of rubber in the original spring? Common Logitech! Some improvement. How cheesy.
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- 3,005
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- aerolite
Ya, cheesy is the right word for that, why not just incorporate the same progressive spring that GTEye sells! And it is identical to 27, other than a black cylinder instead of red.If it's the same as G27, which I believe it to be, yes. Just screws and a allen head machine screw on the pedal. But it's a bit fiddly trying to get all the wires in the proper place to put it back together. Not difficult, just fiddly. There are excellent how to videos on Youtube that walk you through it.
And... a chunk of rubber in the original spring? Common Logitech! Some improvement. How cheesy.
Video's will show you taking the pedals off and moving the cover forward, taking care not to pull any wires. You don't have to do this. Just remove all the small phillips screws (not any of the black ones) making sure to hold the cover in place when removing last screw. Then turn it over and put it down. Take the two screws off that hold the spring cylinder. Now all you have to do is slightly lift the cover to be able to move cylinder up and take out the spring. Still keep an eye on the wires though, you can shine a flashlight inside to see.
You will need a small phillips and a 2.5mm allan key.
- 3,005
- Merrickville, Ont.
- aerolite
Rant coming!
Speaking of tonight, to those that haven't practiced much, you have to be so careful in the Lotus, early braking and throttle control are very important. The car will easily over and under steer as well. I'm saying this so others look out for the car breaking in front of them. Also as it's easy to go OOB, if you do, please remember to do a lift when you come back on track. I'm not gonna get all bitchy here (aka Lobban, lol) but after some recent racing I am tired of getting hit from behind and drivers going OOB with no recession. I'm just going to start filing IR's from now on.
Rant done.
Speaking of tonight, to those that haven't practiced much, you have to be so careful in the Lotus, early braking and throttle control are very important. The car will easily over and under steer as well. I'm saying this so others look out for the car breaking in front of them. Also as it's easy to go OOB, if you do, please remember to do a lift when you come back on track. I'm not gonna get all bitchy here (aka Lobban, lol) but after some recent racing I am tired of getting hit from behind and drivers going OOB with no recession. I'm just going to start filing IR's from now on.
Rant done.
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DesertPenguin09
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Is it just me or do all of the older race cars require you to manhandle them on turn-in?
DesertPenguin09
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I just did two live broadcasts and checked my channel when they were done and they're not there. Gonna try just a regular shared video but I don't know where it will start, it just goes back 15 minute from when I press the button. If this isn't good enough just put me in D2, I know I'm probably there anyway.
- 3,005
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- aerolite
You can't just default, see above, even though you have read it as you liked it.
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I know, I just wanted to rant. I knew it wouldn't do it anything. I didn't realize you can trim videos until now so I cut off the first minute or two so it starts at the main menu screen.
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