There are a lot of cars that would be enjoyable to drive in the championship, but which one you pick will depend on the lineup you choose. Regardless of the car, I suggest keeping it stock (or perhaps replacing only the transmission), because classic cars are much more fun to drive when their engines and suspensions are left alone. I think that the Isuzu 117 is a lovely car to drive, but with only 120 HP, it isn't very fast, so you would need to find a slow lineup. With a faster one, I would recommend the Ginetta, a Mazda 110S, a Toyota 2000GT, or a Nissan Fairlady 2000. And if your chosen opponents include the Jaguar, the Corvette, or the 300SL, then you probably need one of those three cars or a muscle car (but if you're good, then you can probably defeat them with one of the cars listed above). Don't bother with any field containing the AC 427, obviously.
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I liked running it in my Skyline GT-B. (prize car from the FR series)
I ran it stock.
The Lotus Elan, '63 Alfa Romeo (you win from the event) 117 (as mentioned above) are fun little cars to run too.
The only problem w/ this series (and long running races in general in GT4) is that no matter what lineup you pull, for the most part, you will be truly racing against 1 or 2 opponent cars at the most.
3 cars will fall out of competition after the first 5 laps or so. They more or less become rolling pylons you have to avoid.
The final 2 cars may keep up with one another, but about halfway through one will fall behind by a lap or 2.
So that leaves you against 1 other car.
I ran it stock.
The Lotus Elan, '63 Alfa Romeo (you win from the event) 117 (as mentioned above) are fun little cars to run too.
The only problem w/ this series (and long running races in general in GT4) is that no matter what lineup you pull, for the most part, you will be truly racing against 1 or 2 opponent cars at the most.
3 cars will fall out of competition after the first 5 laps or so. They more or less become rolling pylons you have to avoid.
The final 2 cars may keep up with one another, but about halfway through one will fall behind by a lap or 2.
So that leaves you against 1 other car.
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Agreed. There are a few surprises here and there, but mostly things degenerate into a one-on-one battle. The reason this has always bothered me is cuz in real-life GT racing (historic or otherwise) there is often an effort made by the race's organizers to put all cars on the same page, or at least within the same chapter, so far as abilities go. This is why front-drives can battle rear-drives lap after lap quite often in real GT racing. 💡
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The only real opposition to this is the GT world championship with all C-class/LMP cars in the linup (excluding one or two cars that have unnatural tyre life), whilst you are in a Mercedes CLK GTR. Best Races in GT4 i've ever had.
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I was beat in Paris by the Vette but won all others, funny part was having one red dot of fuel left on the last 2 laps of the Sarthe. I knew if I pitted he had me so it was a bit of a nail biter to come to that after 1000 miles of A-spec driving. That made me glad to get back to the rest of the game (i love the photo part and the slide show lol, spend more and more time there lately 💡) cause i wasn't being pushed technically which is something i need to stay excited about the driving, licences do that though! All that A-spec driving did give me some skills from all the seat time. Like the book in gt3 said, Skip Barber that is..."all the know how doesn't do much good without lots of practice". a (paraphrase). I think when I lose is when I get better because it pushes Me technically to catch up. I noticed this in the 1000 miles series for sure, I'd get careless and start looking at the scenery lol till the vette passed me or bore down on me, then I put my racing gloves back on. and got to work.
luv this game. in regards to being pushed technically (off subject) that new gt5 demo gives me all i could ever use for sure!
I used econo tires in Sarte but N2 or N3 elsewhere, even tried sports tires in Paris but could not pull it off and was...ashamed to say...lapped by the Vette ...ashamed to say... 3 laps whoa dude!
luv this game. in regards to being pushed technically (off subject) that new gt5 demo gives me all i could ever use for sure! I used econo tires in Sarte but N2 or N3 elsewhere, even tried sports tires in Paris but could not pull it off and was...ashamed to say...lapped by the Vette ...ashamed to say... 3 laps whoa dude!
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What were you driving?
I have taken on the 63 Corvette using the Toyota 2000GT '67. This was quite a while ago, and was only offered about 20 A-spec points. I did the entire 1000 mile series with my Toyota 2000GT, using B-spec for about half of the laps. I was driving the Toyota as a practice car for the New York Mission.
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Finally I got round to complete my stint on the Nordschleife with good success and truely enjoyed myself.
I took the Giulia GTA in stock form with S1 tyres on my first try against the Fairlady and Lotus. Was nicely sandwiched between those two and as long as I could keep up with the Fairlady she couldn't pull away as I was slipstreaming her nicely. Unfortunately on lap 6 I messed up, and as the tyres weren't really holding up that well, I decided to call it a day. But I definitely will come back to that line-up, maybe with a tiny bit more power added, and street rubber. Was very good fun for 6 laps.
On the second attempt against the other GTA as fastest opponent, I went for N3/N2 tyres, but the handling was a bit too sterile for my liking, and as other RL issues kept me from doing more than 3 laps, I decided to start again with N2 tyres another day.
Which I did and for the first half of my run up to lap 12 I thought I would get away with a one pit strategy but the tyres were gone on the rear and I didn't want to risk anything at that point. Two pit stops then, I refueled to 53 units, and went to fix myself some dinner. At that point I was 50 seconds ahead of the other GTA and was doing quite consistent 9.35s - 9:40s and was very happy with my performance so far. What a very lovely car to drive and it allows for some show-boating here and there.
After my pit-stop both in-game and in the kitchen, it went seriously downhill. I managed to spin four times in two laps, the GTA was 20 seconds ahead and I was thinking if I threw it all away just now? But fortunately I got my act together, did a best lap of 9:31 in the process, pitted again at the end of lap 20 for fresh rubber, wondering if I did the maths right because even the red disappeared from the gauge on the final straight. The GTA was 8 seconds behind me by the end of lap 24, but he went for a final pit stop (really a shame) and I won by a good 45 seconds lead.
Great drive and race, my failures from lap 13 really gave me a frown, but other than that, nice going
Now I just have to decide if I tackle the Fairlady/Lotus line-up with a bit more power, or if I get myself a nice shiny Spider Duetto and put on some Simon & Garfunkel.
Have to say, I always underrated the classic cars in the short races, but after an hour you just can't help but fall in love with them.
I took the Giulia GTA in stock form with S1 tyres on my first try against the Fairlady and Lotus. Was nicely sandwiched between those two and as long as I could keep up with the Fairlady she couldn't pull away as I was slipstreaming her nicely. Unfortunately on lap 6 I messed up, and as the tyres weren't really holding up that well, I decided to call it a day. But I definitely will come back to that line-up, maybe with a tiny bit more power added, and street rubber. Was very good fun for 6 laps.
On the second attempt against the other GTA as fastest opponent, I went for N3/N2 tyres, but the handling was a bit too sterile for my liking, and as other RL issues kept me from doing more than 3 laps, I decided to start again with N2 tyres another day.
Which I did and for the first half of my run up to lap 12 I thought I would get away with a one pit strategy but the tyres were gone on the rear and I didn't want to risk anything at that point. Two pit stops then, I refueled to 53 units, and went to fix myself some dinner. At that point I was 50 seconds ahead of the other GTA and was doing quite consistent 9.35s - 9:40s and was very happy with my performance so far. What a very lovely car to drive and it allows for some show-boating here and there.
After my pit-stop both in-game and in the kitchen, it went seriously downhill. I managed to spin four times in two laps, the GTA was 20 seconds ahead and I was thinking if I threw it all away just now? But fortunately I got my act together, did a best lap of 9:31 in the process, pitted again at the end of lap 20 for fresh rubber, wondering if I did the maths right because even the red disappeared from the gauge on the final straight. The GTA was 8 seconds behind me by the end of lap 24, but he went for a final pit stop (really a shame) and I won by a good 45 seconds lead.
Great drive and race, my failures from lap 13 really gave me a frown, but other than that, nice going
Now I just have to decide if I tackle the Fairlady/Lotus line-up with a bit more power, or if I get myself a nice shiny Spider Duetto and put on some Simon & Garfunkel.
Have to say, I always underrated the classic cars in the short races, but after an hour you just can't help but fall in love with them.
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I wish i could do this event in a 2002 or a Spitfire. It would be so fun.
Recently, I took a 54 corvette and a 117 coupe with a stage one turbo to the event. Now, I'm using a bone stock red 2000Gt. I couldn't find an E type somehow so i settled with an Elan as a main opponent. It gave a bit of a fight in the nurburgring, but i fixed it by reducing my gas fills in the pits.
When i get around to getting a gt350, I'll pit against the E-type and the Sl at the sarthe and see how close it'll be.
Recently, I took a 54 corvette and a 117 coupe with a stage one turbo to the event. Now, I'm using a bone stock red 2000Gt. I couldn't find an E type somehow so i settled with an Elan as a main opponent. It gave a bit of a fight in the nurburgring, but i fixed it by reducing my gas fills in the pits.
When i get around to getting a gt350, I'll pit against the E-type and the Sl at the sarthe and see how close it'll be.
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Dude! I know. PD's rules for 'Classic Cars' are so lame. 👎 I'd even love to take the '78 Mitsubishi Mirage in these events.
Funny, that. I just started racing the G.T. 350, although I'm not doing 1,000 Miles! events. I'd predict the G.T. 350 would overkill the E-type, since it's got something like 60 horses over the Jag, and has relatively spiffy handling, but give it a go.
I'm planning on taking the GT350 to the World Classic Car cup against the Cobra and Buick Special...anything less would be overkilly.
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Yea, it kinda sucks. I'd trade one of the Ford GT LMs (why are there two of them?) for the road car, which I've surmised is probably a '65 or '66 Mk1.
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Attention 1000 Miles junkies!
I've discovered that lineups for this race can vary by color of car.
For instance, I've tested all four colors of Nissan Skyline BLRA-3, and for the the first 3 starting grids after a console reset the lineups will be the same. However, at the 4th lineup the silver, blue and white BLRA-3's will get a different lineup than the green one.
For Lotus Elans, the yellow and red ones receive different lineups (starting at #4) than do the white and silver.
In the Nurburgring 4hr enduro, car color will make a difference starting at lineup #3.
I do not know how many events in GT4 are affected by this phenomenon, but it can clearly be useful in quickly going to the best lineup once you have done some exploring.
Respectfully yours,
Dotini
I've discovered that lineups for this race can vary by color of car.
For instance, I've tested all four colors of Nissan Skyline BLRA-3, and for the the first 3 starting grids after a console reset the lineups will be the same. However, at the 4th lineup the silver, blue and white BLRA-3's will get a different lineup than the green one.
For Lotus Elans, the yellow and red ones receive different lineups (starting at #4) than do the white and silver.
In the Nurburgring 4hr enduro, car color will make a difference starting at lineup #3.
I do not know how many events in GT4 are affected by this phenomenon, but it can clearly be useful in quickly going to the best lineup once you have done some exploring.
Respectfully yours,
Dotini
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^ interesting. I've noticed line-ups certainly repeat themselves, but never compared using a different color car and then seeing different stuff come up. That's totally weird.
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First post here, but I have read the entire 1000 miles junkie thread-very cool. There is some impressive mileage on this board!
I have yet to tackle the entire 1000 mile challenge, but I have completed Nurburgring three times and Sarthe II once. Nurburgring was done twice with a fully tuned 300SL (I know, wayyyy cheap, I didn't realize it was bad form) and once in a fully tuned Karmann Ghia, which actually turned out to be a close race, for awhile. My main competition was the Alfa Romeo Giulia Speciale, and boy, did it give me a time with the Karmann Ghia. However, after four or five laps, the superior handling of my lightened and tuned Ghia allowed me some breathing room with the Italian menace.
On Sarthe I used a stock Spider Duetto (after reading this thread and realizing what a bad sport I had been at Nurburgring.) The Duetto was an absolute joy to drive stock on N3 tires. I was able to go nearly 15 or 16 laps without a tire change. I let "Bob" take over for the next set of tires so I could have a beer and a smoke. My main competition was a Mini Marcos and a Alfa Romeo Sprint GT. The race was a total nail-biter for about for or five laps. I was able to overtake, amazingly, the entire pack after the first run down the straights. I'm not sure how it happened, because I really don't think I had the fastest car. I was however drafting like a fiend behind the Mini Marcos, so that might have built up some speed. At any rate, as the leader, I was tempted to drive dirty and block the Alfa, but I realized that this would essentially be as bad form as using a supercar like the 300sl fully tuned. I drove aggressively still, but by the end of the straight and the sharp bend, the Alfa started pulling away with blistering acceleration compared to the Duetto. The Mini Marcos must have been inspired by the Alfa, because soon he was nipping at my heels and pulled ahead during the long curves at the end of the course. Falling to third I realized that if I drove like a mildly intelligent person, I could fall no further behind in the line-up. I pushed hard against the Marcos, and passed him every lap on the straight, only to be passed in turn during the periods of acceleration after the main straight. Finally, I passed the Marcos towards the end of my turn before Bob's and really floored it down the straight, continuing at power through the sloping turn at the very end of the long straight before viciously braking through the 90 degree turn. The Marcos must have been trying to keep up because he slammed into the wall behind me at a speed that surely would have ended his race (and career) in real life. The Marcos after that was a threat only in my rear view mirror. The tiny blue car began to swing wildly through turns and I am pretty sure that while my tires were holding up, his were totally shot. Bob drove well, maintaining and widening slightly the lead between the Marcos and I. The Alfa however mercilessly pulled ahead and was just shy of lapping me when I finished the race (in second.)
Whew, sorry for the monologue!
SO, my question is: What would be more fun and rewarding in terms of being a good sport in this board's opinion-driving a 300SL dead stock with N tires or a mildy modified 300SL?
I'm personally tempted to go dead stock with some N tires. However, I have heard from many car experts from Top Gear to automobile collector reviews on YouTube that the 300SL in stock form is a real 'widow maker.' Due to the open differential, tire wear on the inside rear will be catastrophic, and apparently the rear doesn't have much to offer in grip at speed anyway. Apparently it handles ok at low speed, but high speed braking and turning can be a nightmare.
I will of course race a decent line-up of cars, minus maybe the AC or the Cobra. The reason why I want to do it with the SL is that it is a childhood favorite of mine, I just don't want to think that I am totally cheating
Thanks
I have yet to tackle the entire 1000 mile challenge, but I have completed Nurburgring three times and Sarthe II once. Nurburgring was done twice with a fully tuned 300SL (I know, wayyyy cheap, I didn't realize it was bad form) and once in a fully tuned Karmann Ghia, which actually turned out to be a close race, for awhile. My main competition was the Alfa Romeo Giulia Speciale, and boy, did it give me a time with the Karmann Ghia. However, after four or five laps, the superior handling of my lightened and tuned Ghia allowed me some breathing room with the Italian menace.
On Sarthe I used a stock Spider Duetto (after reading this thread and realizing what a bad sport I had been at Nurburgring.) The Duetto was an absolute joy to drive stock on N3 tires. I was able to go nearly 15 or 16 laps without a tire change. I let "Bob" take over for the next set of tires so I could have a beer and a smoke. My main competition was a Mini Marcos and a Alfa Romeo Sprint GT. The race was a total nail-biter for about for or five laps. I was able to overtake, amazingly, the entire pack after the first run down the straights. I'm not sure how it happened, because I really don't think I had the fastest car. I was however drafting like a fiend behind the Mini Marcos, so that might have built up some speed. At any rate, as the leader, I was tempted to drive dirty and block the Alfa, but I realized that this would essentially be as bad form as using a supercar like the 300sl fully tuned. I drove aggressively still, but by the end of the straight and the sharp bend, the Alfa started pulling away with blistering acceleration compared to the Duetto. The Mini Marcos must have been inspired by the Alfa, because soon he was nipping at my heels and pulled ahead during the long curves at the end of the course. Falling to third I realized that if I drove like a mildly intelligent person, I could fall no further behind in the line-up. I pushed hard against the Marcos, and passed him every lap on the straight, only to be passed in turn during the periods of acceleration after the main straight. Finally, I passed the Marcos towards the end of my turn before Bob's and really floored it down the straight, continuing at power through the sloping turn at the very end of the long straight before viciously braking through the 90 degree turn. The Marcos must have been trying to keep up because he slammed into the wall behind me at a speed that surely would have ended his race (and career) in real life. The Marcos after that was a threat only in my rear view mirror. The tiny blue car began to swing wildly through turns and I am pretty sure that while my tires were holding up, his were totally shot. Bob drove well, maintaining and widening slightly the lead between the Marcos and I. The Alfa however mercilessly pulled ahead and was just shy of lapping me when I finished the race (in second.)
Whew, sorry for the monologue!
SO, my question is: What would be more fun and rewarding in terms of being a good sport in this board's opinion-driving a 300SL dead stock with N tires or a mildy modified 300SL?
I'm personally tempted to go dead stock with some N tires. However, I have heard from many car experts from Top Gear to automobile collector reviews on YouTube that the 300SL in stock form is a real 'widow maker.' Due to the open differential, tire wear on the inside rear will be catastrophic, and apparently the rear doesn't have much to offer in grip at speed anyway. Apparently it handles ok at low speed, but high speed braking and turning can be a nightmare.
I will of course race a decent line-up of cars, minus maybe the AC or the Cobra. The reason why I want to do it with the SL is that it is a childhood favorite of mine, I just don't want to think that I am totally cheating
Thanks
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Welcome to gtplanet, it's always good to see an articulate and intelligent new member asking interesting questions. And now a few questions for you:
By 'fully tuned' do you mean 'slap all the parts on and race' or 'tune the suspension, tranny etc until it feels right'?
To what level do you usually tune your cars and have you read the canonical Scaff's Tuning Guide? (If that link doesn't work just search for it on the site)
The best guide we have to a good race is the Aspec points, and players tend to use either tuned or stock cars (though more often a combination).
IMO the best example of the former is Esattezza tuners in the Tuning and Settings subforum. Now that sukerkin (ETZ owner) is too busy to work on GT4, the user Dotini is probably the go-to man. He's a wicked tuner and specialises in lineups for endurance races.
The best example of the latter is the mod Smallhorses. He got over 100,000 Aspec points using stock cars on N2s without nitrous, and has an impressive list of race reports to help you with pit strategy and the like. His colleague Famine has an equally good portfolio.
Also be aware of this page, heaps of data on the 1000 miles cars.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: Have you read through the 200pt races subforum? Lots of stuff there.
By 'fully tuned' do you mean 'slap all the parts on and race' or 'tune the suspension, tranny etc until it feels right'?
To what level do you usually tune your cars and have you read the canonical Scaff's Tuning Guide? (If that link doesn't work just search for it on the site)
The best guide we have to a good race is the Aspec points, and players tend to use either tuned or stock cars (though more often a combination).
IMO the best example of the former is Esattezza tuners in the Tuning and Settings subforum. Now that sukerkin (ETZ owner) is too busy to work on GT4, the user Dotini is probably the go-to man. He's a wicked tuner and specialises in lineups for endurance races.
The best example of the latter is the mod Smallhorses. He got over 100,000 Aspec points using stock cars on N2s without nitrous, and has an impressive list of race reports to help you with pit strategy and the like. His colleague Famine has an equally good portfolio.
Also be aware of this page, heaps of data on the 1000 miles cars.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: Have you read through the 200pt races subforum? Lots of stuff there.
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Lol, i'm using a fully tuned 500L on The Ring. I'm thinking i should have checked the top speed before entering, as i can only do 106 Mph when i should go at most 116. I had to restart because Bob doesn't run well with soft tires and now I'm using mediums all around. The toughest competition is coming from the Marcos, but I'm holding up well.
If i run into the Honda 1300, I'm gonna run that car stock to see how well it fares against the faster Japanese cars.
If i run into the Honda 1300, I'm gonna run that car stock to see how well it fares against the faster Japanese cars.
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I've driven the 1300 in all four 1,000 Miles, it's definitely doable. 👍 You gotta figure in some extra power, perhaps, to compensate for the fact you'll be making extra pitstops. I think I was doing 3 laps of the 'Ring for every change of S1 tires. Only the fronts need to be changed at first...the rear tires will still be green since it's a FWD.
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I'm talking about the Fiat 500 from earlier.
I was gawking at the 3 laps pitting part from your last post.
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