1000 Miles junkies . . .

[PARAGON GT]

I've run it in a stock S1, no oil change.

Its still a beast of a car to run. The only track I had a problem w/ was the final one.

The low top speed made it easy for most of the group to catch me on the straits.

 

[oldmodelt]

Who else out there has a passion for jumping into a pre-70's car and run it through one of the most grueling series in the game?

Not B-specing it, but actually A-specing the entire event?

I have personally competed and completed the event 3 times so far, and I still have a list of cars that I want to compete with.

So far I have used the following cars:

1. '67 Nissan Skyline GT-B -
The car was stock, w/ an oil change and different rims.
2. '54 Chevrolet Corvette
No oil change, Customizable transmission, N1 tires, and rims.
3. '63 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale
Stock, no oil change, S1 tires

I have been trying to stay with the lower powered cars for now to keep the races fairly close. I think that up next on the list will be the Lotus Elan S1 on N1 tires.

So is there anyone else out there that loves this event?

*edit*

Since more and more people are starting chime in, I thought I would start a list of "Junkies"

List of self appointed Junkies:
PARAGON GT - 3.25 (one in process)
Parnelli Bone - 7
Smallhorses - 4

After I finish the GTPLMS I'll try it.

 

[unclefesta1979]

I'm on my second go of the 1000 mile race which i'm lovin, I won't be B-Speccing any of it this time, as Bob was faster than me and ruined my enjoyment of the competition. This time I'm in the Isuzu 117 which I've given a mild tune too and all the usual running gear, which doesn't seemed to made much of a difference as I'm running with the Alfa GTA again and I'm only managing to stay around 7 seconds ahead.
With my tyres orange and struggling the Alfa came past me just after the second Carousel, then I managed to pass him again on the straight. Then I positioned myself to enter the pits and the STUPID Alfa decided to overtake me on the outside and proceeded to crash into the pit wall, thous blocking the enterance and then continued to ram the pit wall while I reversed to let him out.
I decided to do this race as I really wanted to do the 4hr nurburgring endurance and was getting frustrated with my continuous bad car choices and was fast running out of money every time I bought a car and it wasn't right, the 1000 mile is far more relaxing then driving your tyres off on the faster races. I'm going the try and complete this game, but I'm going to use my other memory card the do the 1000 mile over and over and try some more challenging cars.
I know I'm mad and know I won't win but I really want to do it in a hard tuned Fiat 500! During testing of a '69 Fiat 500 I managed to get it doing 118mph down the back straight at Sarthe but it got a bit hairy on the ring so I'm still trying to find the happy medium.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

^^Hmm. Well, you can't win 'em all. The cool thing about doing GT4 races over and over is you can come back to them with lessons learned from the past. Don't try to win everything all the time. Actually, that's bad advice: TRY to win all the time, but also KNOW that you won't win all the time.

But it sounds like you're having trouble. Try something sportier, perhaps. Alfa Spider, '70 Toyota Celica or some other sports car that's somewhat easy to drive. The Fiat (I would imagine) will only be worse than the Isuzu. Then, as you get better, as you become a junky (lol) you can try the Isuzu again.

 

[ABud]

I'm about to start this series as part of my 200pt challenge so i guess i'll be in the BLRA-3. I did find a 200pt setup for the Mini Marcos GT, but it involved N1 tires and 200 ballast as well as running against the Jag - over 1 min a lap slower without any shortcuts just isn't fun!

Andy

 

[unclefesta1979]

I did in fact win with the Isuzu and that mild tune helped alot as by the end of the race I'd lost it all down to stock HP.

I had ago with Fiat 500, bad idea too hairy on the ring, as it's so bumpy the little 500 struggled to hold it together with over 80bhp, and skipped on to the next race. With the right gearing I managed to hold it togther for Paris, finishing 3rd and Cote De Azure, finishing 4th, but gave in after 2 laps of Sarthe. I could get it doing over 100mph down the straight but lost alot of time tackling the slow corners due to such tall gearing and lack of acceleration.
I had to reset the game loads to find the right competition and ended up with Karmann Ghia, Mini Marcos, Honda S800, Nissan Silvia, Nissan Skyline Coupe (that slow one) and me in a turbo'd '69 Fiat 500L with 82bhp.
So can it be done, not really, but if it was a 1000 miles of Autumn Ring Mini Reverse, the yeah piece of cake, very boring Madera cake, but you get the idea!

 

[Viper-Fan]

I've done these events in a Charger 440 R/T & a 300SL with fully customizable transmission being the only aftermarket part add-on. With the Charger 440 R/T, I waited for Cobra to appear in the line-up so there was some competition. It was a blast to drive, A-spec'd it all the way. 👍

 

[Parnelli Bone]

It's so funny. I went for a visit over at ign.com, where a 1,000 Miles discussion is going on:

http://boards.ign.com/gran_turismo/b5208/180313315/p1/?12

Notice how half the posters are discussing the best way to B-spec 1,000 Miles! ....absolutely no shame. 👎

It's the polar-opposite of our discussion in this thread.

 

[slowman]

Bob hated the Ginetta G4 on Nurb but that's what I used, I'm pretty sure I NA Tuned it to Stage 2 though and maybe a couple of other minor mods (weight, tail shaft, clutch, no flywheel (not enough power)) but on 3 of the tracks Bob was faster than the AI (incuding Nurb, just be careful to switch down from setting 4 to 2-3 on parts he'll mess-up, I think setting 3 all the way makes him only slightly slower than the Merc 300SL overall)

ROFL, I just did the 1000 miles (A-Spec) the other day in a stock Ginetta on N3's and won quite easily.

 

[SaberFire]

If I was to consider racing this series just for the driving experience alone, what car would you guys recommend? I'd like a car that needs you to be on the ball all the time, yet not something that could put you off driving forever.

Any thoughts?

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I like this one:

Dallas357
I had a 2 lap lead atnurb. The thing is... I took a stock sting ray into opera just to race a few laps and he takes the lead. I then enter the championship modded up, race nurb and then on opera he gets his ass kicked. He gets stuck in this corner too, same place every lap

A 2-lap lead at nurb? Hee hee hee! Jeez I would get so bored!

I'm assuming he talking about B-spec because "he" gets "his" ass kicked, stuck in the same place every time! Must have been pushing Bob on 4 or 5 for that to happen!

...notice how nobody seems to think any of this is wrong!

If I was to consider racing this series just for the driving experience alone, what car would you guys recommend? I'd like a car that needs you to be on the ball all the time, yet not something that could put you off driving forever.

Any thoughts?

It's hard to say. I mean, there's lots of cars you can use, of course, so it all depends on your skill level. Do you want something that's gonna be an easy win? Or more challenging? do you want a grid of Ai that includes a bunch of slower cars, or faster ones like the AC Cobra and Jag E-Type?

 

[SaberFire]

I like the sound of challenging. It does get boring when you don't have to fight for the win

 

[slowman]

I thorougly enjoyed the Ginetta G4 on N3's. It was challenging enough to be fun. The Ginetta has a distinct advantage on short, twisty tracks with few straightaways.

The Nurburgring and especially Sarthe were quite challenging due to the long straights. I'd recommend bumping the power up a bit for Sarthe, maybe to 120 hp or so. The E-Type will just kill you otherwise. It tops out around 144 and if you're at stock power you'll spend the entire straight trying to get there.

In the lineup I faced were the E-Type and the C2 Vette. The lesser competition was a Honda S600 (maybe S800?) and the early Alfa Spider Duetto. There was another car that I don't even remember, but it wasn't competition like the E-Type.

This car is a slippery, slippery bastard though. It handles remarkably well but absolutely requires a light but confident touch. It isn't quite a "steering wheel only" car but its close.

 

[Viper-Fan]

If I was to consider racing this series just for the driving experience alone, what car would you guys recommend? I'd like a car that needs you to be on the ball all the time, yet not something that could put you off driving forever.

Any thoughts?

Try the 300SL. The vette Stingray is also good for competing against the higher powered E-Type & Cobra.

 

[unclefesta1979]

Well I'm doing it again, I can't myself and wishing I hadn't now, should have given myself at least a week to recover from the Fiat 500 episode. Driving the 1000 mile again and I'm already planning out another 500 attempt with less HP next time.
Anyway doing it in the Mitsubishi GTO and it ain't bad and it handles remarkably well.
I just read the other message board, mentioned above and I must say, what is it with using bleeding yank tanks, there too fast, and will happily rip your head off and repeatedly reverse over your lifeless corpse at every corner?
Then again, I probably come across as being a little unhinged, planning my second attempt at this event in one of the slowest cars, just cos it's a challenge. maybe one day I'll do it in the 2CV, did manage an 11 minute lap of the ring in a tuned 2CV!

 

[Viper-Fan]

Well I'm doing it again, I can't myself and wishing I hadn't now, should have given myself at least a week to recover from the Fiat 500 episode. Driving the 1000 mile again and I'm already planning out another 500 attempt with less HP next time.
Anyway doing it in the Mitsubishi GTO and it ain't bad and it handles remarkably well.
I just read the other message board, mentioned above and I must say, what is it with using bleeding yank tanks, there too fast, and will happily rip your head off and repeatedly reverse over your lifeless corpse at every corner?
Then again, I probably come across as being a little unhinged, planning my second attempt at this event in one of the slowest cars, just cos it's a challenge. maybe one day I'll do it in the 2CV, did manage an 11 minute lap of the ring in a tuned 2CV!

I only recommended using them if an AC Cobra or E-Type shows up Good luck with your attempt.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Well I'm doing it again, I can't myself and wishing I hadn't now, should have given myself at least a week to recover from the Fiat 500 episode. Driving the 1000 mile again and I'm already planning out another 500 attempt with less HP next time.
Anyway doing it in the Mitsubishi GTO and it ain't bad and it handles remarkably well.

The GTO is a great car...minimal understeer, handles neutrally otherwise when it's not understeering. Generally goes where it's pointed 90% of the time, and a decent gearing scheme (even stock) for its lowish power.

I just read the other message board, mentioned above and I must say, what is it with using bleeding yank tanks, there too fast, and will happily rip your head off and repeatedly reverse over your lifeless corpse at every corner?
Then again, I probably come across as being a little unhinged, planning my second attempt at this event in one of the slowest cars, just cos it's a challenge. maybe one day I'll do it in the 2CV, did manage an 11 minute lap of the ring in a tuned 2CV!

I don't think the 2CV can do it, even with full tuning, but I'm not 100% positive. If you try it, make sure the Ai grid is the slowest of the slow, but be advised that you'll just be experimenting. If it is possible, make sure to return here and tell us about it, because I'll surely want to try the 2CV myself at some point!

 

[PARAGON GT]

Funny, I haven't played GT4 in a while now, and I still get the urge to run this race from time to time.

With out skimming back through this thread, I want to say that I completed the event 4 times in A-spec.

I always felt that running the slower, less powerful cars made for a better race. Even though it still is possible to lap the cometition.

Though I still have had an urge to run a stock Pontiac GTO through it once.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Funny, I haven't played GT4 in a while now, and I still get the urge to run this race from time to time.

With out skimming back through this thread, I want to say that I completed the event 4 times in A-spec.

I always felt that running the slower, less powerful cars made for a better race. Even though it still is possible to lap the cometition.

Though I still have had an urge to run a stock Pontiac GTO through it once.

The GTO would be a challenge up against the fastest cars! It's so damn clumsy!

I haven't driven the Pontiac GTO in the 1000 Miles, but I have used it for the Pro-level historic races, competeing against both Buick Special and AC Cobra is NOT easy.

 

[PARAGON GT]

I've used mine in a few races too. It does have pretty good acceleration but can be a bit of a handful in the corners.

And it's top speed (stock) is only around 110 if I remember right. even with its great acceleration, its probably not enouth for Sarth.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

GTO top speed (completely stock) just under 120 mph..but amazing acceleration up till then.

http://www.gtcarreviews.com/id160.html

 

[Rotary Junkie]

"Differential: limited-slip"

From GTO article you wrote up. While in reality it may well have had a limited slip differential available as an option, in GT4 it has an open differential which will keep whichever tire loses traction first spinning until doomsday.

EDIT: Oh, seems you admitted that later in the article, but I now have something else to nitpick and that's the final drive listed... A 3:23 final would actually allow for a reasonably high top speed, the car is likely run with 3:90-4:10 gears.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

"Differential: limited-slip"

From GTO article you wrote up. While in reality it may well have had a limited slip differential available as an option, in GT4 it has an open differential which will keep whichever tire loses traction first spinning until doomsday.

EDIT: Oh, seems you admitted that later in the article, but I now have something else to nitpick and that's the final drive listed... A 3:23 final would actually allow for a reasonably high top speed, the car is likely run with 3:90-4:10 gears.

Cool. Thanks for the input...yea you're right. I get my specs & info from a bunch of different websites, which are hard to fact-check sometimes.

 

[DK]

Done it with the MFT Skyline C10. I actually had the car going at 50% throttle because my opponents were so slow.

 

[Giygas]

Done it with the MFT Skyline C10. I actually had the car going at 50% throttle because my opponents were so slow.

Is that the one you win in the Fr races? I recently did the 1000 Miles! with that one(tuned, of course:tup

 

[LancerEvo7]

I plan on tackling this series soon with a Fiat 500. Race report will naturally follow.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I plan on tackling this series soon with a Fiat 500. Race report will naturally follow.

Very cool. 👍 I'll be looking forward to it. I wanna try a VW Bug myself.

 

[DK]

Is that the one you win in the Fr races? I recently did the 1000 Miles! with that one(tuned, of course:tup

No, you win it after winning the 70's Japanese Cars Challenge or whatever the hell it's called.

 

[PF]

Check out GTsail290's recent effort for 200pts. It's amazing how many cars and techniques can be used for the series.

 

[Seismica]

Due to me being a complete fail with classis cars i have only actually completed this event in a Jag E-type.

I did try is in a Honda S800 race car (At least i think it was that) but i got blown away. I tried with the Ginetta G4 aswell. It was tuned so i kept up with the Jag E-type infront but i lost patience after one race and quit

But those were years ago when i used automatic gears and driving assists. I will be re-doing it in the next few weeks (manual, no driving aids), can anyone suggest a car and lineup that is quite even yet challenging (though looking at the past few posts, nothing quite as challenging as a Fiat 500 or VW bug or Subaru 360 or anything like that lol. Muscle cars i reckon are overkill too.)

I'm thinking of going with the Ginetta G4 again because it has its uses in other competitions.