20 million credits for free!

[JLG_GT]

Ironman,


For some of us, the point of the game is not just to accumulate everything, but to utilize everything. There are over 1200 cars that you can record a lap time for on 37 different tracks.

This is a great point and should be the only point. We, or most, have been playing GT for 5 releases of the game. Im in love with these cars (alot of them worth millions and some others not but need to upgrade to fully UTILIZE)

They allowed trading these same cars for nothing for a long time in GT5. Never mind tickets to rip. Granted they lowered the trade limit.

They made us fall in love with these cars and made it a one way road to "re"acquire these in GT6. I was fiending for a Muira to test with all new physics, graphics, details, and all the fun stuff of working on YOUR car for YOUR game.

There have been no promises for alternative in game means to acquire cars. Other than racing the ONE moneymaker race and waiting...those are the answers we get.

 

[Touring Mars]

Leaving the morality of exploiting this glitch aside for the moment, I do question the wisdom of it... certainly I don't think it's a very good idea to openly admit to exploiting the glitch on a forum. If the credits were not on sale in the game via the GT Store, it wouldn't be an issue - it would simply be a matter of preference whether you felt like a huge wad of cash at the beginning of the game or not. But, since in-game credits are now actual items that Sony are charging real money for, it brings the issue into a different arena - and hence why SCEI might take a dim view of those who are helping themselves to a valuable freebie or two.

 

[TokoTurismo]

To tell you all the truth. I have more fun buying cars, and with this glitch in the horizon, it's very enjoyable. I dislike having to grind to get the cars I want, I want them right away. I'm very thankful for this so I can go online hangout with others in Free Run, and show off and test the cars that are hard to get. I can be called "Oh you glitcher", but I don't care, I feel proud of myself. So very thankful for this.

 

[gt6carlist]

Just to make people's lives easier who are interested in obtaining all the premium cars as efficiently as possible utilizing their new found wealth, check out this google doc I put together:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhRUkqiSnnWxdFNCOGx5c3RFbzl5d3lfS0JkNGVubXc&usp=sharing

It breaks out purchases in $20M increments with the longer chunks sorted by make for quicker purchase. It could be a little more efficient, but its a good way to get all the premium cars in ~4hrs of buying. Please note the second sheet that has duplicate/alternate livery/nearly identical cars as well as the cars that are not implemented in 1.00.

I for one love the GT series, but am not interested in dedicating several hundred hours to even get a taste of what it has to offer. My primary interest is driving as many cars as possible in time trial to improve my skills across a range of vehicles on a range of courses. I couldn't care less about racing strangers online. I'd rather have close competition with friends on any car we'd like. If it truly is a driving sim, then let us drive and experience the hard work PD put into attempting to model, detail and simulate this huge variety of cars. Without this glitch, who would actually spend $2,800 USD to get a chance to drive everything they want? Enjoy.

 

[D_M]

Then you've chosen a very difficult way to play the game. But my question still stands do you need to have everything in the first week of owning the game?

The answer to your question, is no. People saw an opportunity to avoid the endless grinding for credits, so they took it. I understand your point of view. According to the game, I have over 800 miles on Suzuka from grinding for credits. Yes, it was my choice to do that, but the payouts are too low. People just want to get in their favorite cars and play the game. Most people are going to choose not wasting countless hours credit farming.

 

[f_399]

But, since in-game credits are now actual items that Sony are charging real money for, it brings the issue into a different arena - and hence why SCEI might take a dim view of those who are helping themselves to a valuable freebie or two.

"I bought GT6 , played for a few days and purchased the new BMW M4 and got the free AMG but all of a sudden my PS3 crashed. Fortunately my game save was backed up using a USB

I got the PS3 repaired but with a new hard drive. I also didn't have internet so I played offline till I could get access to the internet.

While playing the game I decided to sell the M4 and AMG but they had weird names but got 20 million for it.

When I got internet, the patch downloaded and I still had my 20 million.

Did I just discover a glitch or something?"


That is illegal?

 

[sid_chiclana]

I'm trembling

I think Sid has better things to do than go back and forth.

Seriously though, have an open mind about it. This game offers ALOT and racing being a major part of the game its not the ONLY part.

I for one like tuning/taking pictures/painting/etc... I love racing too but not scripted racing.

Essentially we all have to go down the same road to PROGRESS the game.[/quote]

I couldna put it better myself

 

[ironman44321]

How do you save up, when the game only gives around $7m upon completion? In it's current state, you'd need to complete the game three times to obtain one Cr.20m car. That's just nonsense...

EDIT: to extrapolate, if I were to follow your model (and believe me, I did debate it for a couple of days), how long should I wait before the seasonals (as we recognize them from GT5) come along? Two weeks, a month, three months? Maybe PD will add extra career levels that will have bigger payouts, but wait, how long should I wait for those?

I don't know about other games because I don't play them, but to me, Sony has released an unfinished game. If they gave me a timeline for what features were going to be added and when, that would be one thing. But they haven't, so I'm going to maximize my enjoyment the best way I can with the time I have available.

I agree, we don't know how long it will be. But if it were a month or two would that kill everybody here? We got by in GT games in the past and now some people feel like the should just get everything just for buying the game.

But, as I said earlier. If people want to do it they can. I for one would have no pity for those same people if the hammer comes down though. They'll only have themselves to blame.

 

[ironman44321]

"I bought GT6 , played for a few days and purchased the new BMW M4 and got the free AMG but all of a sudden my PS3 crashed. Fortunately my game save was backed up using a USB

I got the PS3 repaired but with a new hard drive. I also didn't have internet so I played offline till I could get access to the internet.

While playing the game I decided to sell the M4 and AMG but they had weird names but got 20 million for it.

When I got internet, the patch downloaded and I still had my 20 million.

Did I just discover a glitch or something?"


That is illegal?

Stumbling across the glitch is one thing. You just happened to find and issue that PD themselves probably didn't even know about. That is very different than the next guy.

"Guys! You can use that glitch to make TONS of money! I've been using it all day and I have 100 of each of the 20 million credit cars!"

 

[Bigbazz]

Leaving the morality of exploiting this glitch aside for the moment, I do question the wisdom of it... certainly I don't think it's a very good idea to openly admit to exploiting the glitch on a forum. If the credits were not on sale in the game via the GT Store, it wouldn't be an issue - it would simply be a matter of preference whether you felt like a huge wad of cash at the beginning of the game or not. But, since in-game credits are now actual items that Sony are charging real money for, it brings the issue into a different arena - and hence why SCEI might take a dim view of those who are helping themselves to a valuable freebie or two.

A lot of people see it as justice, sticking it to the man. The microtransactions is a kick in the teeth to gamers. I think this glitch is good for the health of gaming, it sends a message. The more people that exploit this the better in my eyes. Ultimately the fault is their own, I'd not be all that surprised if this was an intentional experiment, it seems awefully convenient for something like this to show up, something so easy to exploit

Even if not intentional, they certaintly can't ban everyone and if they didn't want to lose money then they should not have left such a basic flaw in the game. People aren't hacking the files to get credits like some people did in the first build, this is just selling a car in game.

 

[JLG_GT]

So we buy the game. They wave GT credits in our face.

What if I bought enough credits to buy a ferrari 330 and my son accidently puts it in the stockyard. Do I get my money back or do they replace it? The game is rated E and anyone could have stumbled across it.

I better start explaining to my family I may have to go to prison for playing Gran Turismo boy what a way to go out.

 

[fm_1013]

I don't feel this way about it. Some of us enjoy starting with little money, buying a cheap car, and then doing events to earn the better ones. And it doesn't have to be a grind if it's done the right way, as I explained earlier.

Maybe you don't see it as a grind yet, but you will. Maintenance costs also went up. The game is rigged to get you to keep paying to play.

It's not just a matter of having all the cars available the first week, either. Sony will do something about this so-called "glitch," so people are trying to cash in while they can.

 

[montez34]

The new BMW works better for this glitch, it's cheaper so you can buy 166 of them for $20,000,000 then just stay in

patch 1.00 and keep buying cars and sell a BMW when you run out of money. Doing it this way you will only have to delete the patch twice.

166 BMW's are worth $3,320,000,000.

 

[Motor City Hami]

They just need to add a "Free Mode" already that's entierely seperate from the career mode, so people who don't want to put up with the career mode can race online, and do whatever else they want. That's what this glitch is estentially doing anyway.

I think that is called Arcade Mode, isn't it?

 

[ironman44321]

A lot of people see it as justice, sticking it to the man. The microtransactions is a kick in the teeth to gamers. I think this glitch is good for the health of gaming, it sends a message.

I have to disagree with this. If anything the message it sends is that the demand for early credits is there. The biggest issue PD are having right now are the prices of the credits not the credits themselves. If there wasn't a glitch and say the pricing was...

$2-1 million credits
$7.50-5 million credits
$10-10 million credits

They would have no trouble selling them and this glitch only shows it. Sticking it to them would be grinding it out like the micro-transactions weren't even there.

 

[pyrates]

I agree, we don't know how long it will be. But if it were a month or two would that kill everybody here? We got by in GT games in the past and now some people feel like the should just get everything just for buying the game.

But, as I said earlier. If people want to do it they can. I for one would have no pity for those same people if the hammer comes down though. They'll only have themselves to blame.

Two questions:

1) What about people that work long hours and have family? Should they grind for months and months just to afford a really expensive car they would like to try? I thought a game was supposed to be fun, to help you relax from the real world.

2) What did people who exploited the glitch to do to you and your game experience that you want them banned? I might be to stupid to see but I don't quite get how it influences your game.

 

[f_399]

Stumbling across the glitch is one thing. You just happened to find and issue that PD themselves probably didn't even know about. That is very different than the next guy.

"Guys! You can use that glitch to make TONS of money! I've been using it all day and I have 100 of each of the 20 million credit cars!"

A door was left open to no fault of the end user.

"I was not doing anything wrong. My playstation kept crashing and i love m4's and amgs' so i had a bunch of them. Every time i went to sell them, it always sold for 20m"

Just trying to make a point, they dont have a very strong legal case. Sure they can get their panties in a wad and ban psn accounts all they want. It wont look good.

This is a message forum. Admitting anything here means almost nothing, unless you have given your real name, address, ssn....

PSN ID's or emails(they have to work but doesn't have to be your main email) don't even have to be legit.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

I agree, we don't know how long it will be. But if it were a month or two would that kill everybody here? We got by in GT games in the past and now some people feel like the should just get everything just for buying the game.

But, as I said earlier. If people want to do it they can. I for one would have no pity for those same people if the hammer comes down though. They'll only have themselves to blame.

I understand your perspective, I really do, and I don't disagree with your last paragraph. You roll the dice, you take your chances... Critically, I don't think I should get everything, just get access to everything. If I complete the game, and I'm a long way from doing that given the amount of time I can dedicate to it, I do not obtain enough money to buy some the cars that they've openly advertised as being available in game.

 

[Hun200kmh]

Leaving the morality of exploiting this glitch aside for the moment, I do question the wisdom of it... certainly I don't think it's a very good idea to openly admit to exploiting the glitch on a forum. If the credits were not on sale in the game via the GT Store, it wouldn't be an issue - it would simply be a matter of preference whether you felt like a huge wad of cash at the beginning of the game or not. But, since in-game credits are now actual items that Sony are charging real money for, it brings the issue into a different arena - and hence why SCEI might take a dim view of those who are helping themselves to a valuable freebie or two.

TM, I don't think there's a legal problem and my full reasoning on this matter is explained in this post:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/20-million-credits-for-free.292976/page-21#post-9067596

But I will add this. Either Sony is schizophrenic (because this has been published, and remained published, for three days already) and is going to sue or punish users for something their own official UK site tells us to be quick at exploiting, or indeed they recognize there's nothing to be done about this ... except the next patch.

http://www.officialplaystationmagaz...ney-cheat-earn-20-million-credits-in-minutes/

 

[ironman44321]

Two questions:

1) What about people that work long hours and have family? Should they grind for months and months just to afford a really expensive car they would like to try? I thought a game was supposed to be fun, to help you relax from the real world.

2) What did people who exploited the glitch to do to you and your game experience that you want them banned? I might be to stupid to see but I don't quite get how it influences your game.

1) I actually think every car should be available in arcade mode. That way if you don't have a lot of time to commit to the game you can still at least drive all of the cars. But if you're asking me if they should make everything really easy to get then the answer is no.

2) I never said I wanted them banned. I simply said I won't feel bad is they do. In my opinion PD should just close the hole (if they can) and act like it never happened. No reason to punish people for exploiting a hole they left open.

 

[f_399]

166 BMW's are worth $3,320,000,000.

And really you dont need that much.

Just stack up on 20m cars like the ford gt40, keep a bunch of them in your garage and sell them at 6 million a piece when you need them. After you have done this, 20 million vs 6 million doesnt matter anymore so you dont have to stay in 1.00 to buy cars.


There is a point of too much money and not worth the time buying 166 bmw's, thats a grind.

 

[Harley45]

A lot of people see it as justice, sticking it to the man. The microtransactions is a kick in the teeth to gamers. I think this glitch is good for the health of gaming, it sends a message. The more people that exploit this the better in my eyes. Ultimately the fault is their own, I'd not be all that surprised if this was an intentional experiment, it seems awefully convenient for something like this to show up, something so easy to exploit

Even if not intentional, they certaintly can't ban everyone and if they didn't want to lose money then they should not have left such a basic flaw in the game. People aren't hacking the files to get credits like some people did in the first build, this is just selling a car in game.

I wouldn't say the Exploit was Intentional , just a fluke , not a bad thing as it at least helps those who wish to collect the cars without grinding and cannot afford to stump up the cash to "Buy Credits" which to be honest I find disgusting .

Roll back too the days before the Internet and we had GT Games that were finished no DLC or Patches , sure GT3 was a pain to make money with , but it felt like a achievement , now with the www active and DLC we suddenley feel like we are being stiffed by the companies because they can , yes GT6 feels like that due to the Micro Updates which changes the price structure .

So to hell with them get all the Cars whilst you can .

 

[Mubble]

Why would you take a bunch if 20 million cars back only to sell them for 6 million?

Buy a boatload of m4s, delete 1.01, load up 1.00, sell one m4, buy 20 million worth of cars, then sell another m4, and buy 20 million worth if cars, repeat. When you've got only 1 m4 left to sell, sell it banking 20 million, then update to 1.01. You can do all your buying in Ver 1.00.

Yes I did that too. I bought 200 high end cars first. But then I stocked up on the 20m credit cars so that in v1.01 I have a back up of potential money.

 

[f_399]

Yeah I can't sit through 1.00 just buying cars hours at a time.

Just stack up a lot of 20 million cars so you can go back to 1.01 and play the game and still buy cars once in awhile

 

[ironman44321]

I understand your perspective, I really do, and I don't disagree with your last paragraph. You roll the dice, you take your chances... Critically, I don't think I should get everything, just get access to everything. If I complete the game, and I'm a long way from doing that given the amount of time I can dedicate to it, I do not obtain enough money to buy some the cars that they've openly advertised as being available in game.

I agree 100%. I'm not here to say that there are no problems with the economy in GT6 because there are plenty. I'm just saying that if the economy in GT6 evolves into what it is in GT5 I don't think it would be a hindrance on the game.

 

[Tenacious D]

I agree, we don't know how long it will be. But if it were a month or two would that kill everybody here? We got by in GT games in the past and now some people feel like the should just get everything just for buying the game.

I think your brush is a little too broad here. Many of us would be happy if the economy was a little more sensible. They offered us things like high payout races in the course of GT5's lifespan, and it wouldn't have been that difficult to provide that level of income vs expense from the start. Not million credit challenges in I-B Class races, but something to compensate for having to buy a car if you want a certain color, or maintain the ridiculous rate of body wear.

And by the way, yes, a two month wait for a remedy for this would be a small eternity, kind of like pushing Christmas off until Valentine's Day. It's disheartening.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

I agree 100%. I'm not here to say that there are no problems with the economy in GT6 because there are plenty. I'm just saying that if the economy in GT6 evolves into what it is in GT5 I don't think it would be a hindrance on the game.

Understood and agree, and if there was a timeline laid out for that to happen then that's one thing, but there isn't. In the interim, the game is what it is...wonderful yet flawed.

 

[SuperShouden]

Pro tip: do not be in the Delta Wing either. The manufacturer doesn't even exist before 1.01 so it will crash your game. Don't even click on it.

 

[ironman44321]

I think your brush is a little too broad here. Many of us would be happy if the economy was a little more sensible. They offered us things like high payout races in the course of GT5's lifespan, and it wouldn't have been that difficult to provide that level of income vs expense from the start. Not million credit challenges in I-B Class races, but something to compensate for having to buy a car if you want a certain color, or maintain the ridiculous rate of body wear.

You're right. Like I said earlier I think if they make the economy in GT6 like it is in GT5 than that would be fine. I also think it's likely that the economy will end up being like GT5 it will just take a month or two to get rolling. I would have rather had higher A-spec payouts especially near the end (I'd also like them to lets us get paid on seasonal events more than once).

I'd just really hate to see PD ruin GT by appealing to the people who want everything right away.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Well... I would not be surprised if PD did something VERY lame on the matter. Like, yes, make all chaeted savegames unusable.

The fact there is still no fix when many very easy solutions exist seems to point that PD is working on something more ambitious than just fixing the exploit.

doubt it... the fact still remains that it takes a while to get patches through PSN change managment and approval processes. This is why they have the in-game mini-updates to allow them to tweak variables without putting out a proper version patch.