20 million credits for free!

I'm hoping in the end I never have to "use" the 20 million I have because of this but it is nice to know that it is there if I do really want to use it.
As for the guys going over the top on the cars and back up funds. Well to each their own. I just hope that going that far over the top does not influence PD to make unplanned changes to the game to help counter the economy

Doing it once or doing it sixty times. What's the difference?

Here's the thing. I know I am not "stealing" because I would never buy those credit packs in the first place. Even if they weren't absolutely, ridiculously overpriced, I STILL wouldn't buy them. I wasn't going to do the "glitch" but I am almost done with career and I still didn't have enough cars I wanted. They put so many cars in the game (including a lot that I actually want), but don't pay out nearly enough to buy them. It's a car collecting game. You'd think they'd throw us a bone. Instead they decrease payouts and charge $50 for 7 million credits. $50?!?!?!!??! That is absurd. So yesterday I broke down and did the money "glitch" with the M4. I will never struggle for credits again in this game and I am still having a complete blast. I think GT6 is very, very fun and I will continue to play the crap out of it.

But, coming back to microtransactions, they weren't going to get any money out of me anyway so I don't feel any guilt or remorse about "glitching". The only thing I didn't like was how long it took, but it was completely worth it.
 
I thoroughly believe that this game was developed entirely for next-gen. Therefore PS3 took back seat. After the next-gen is relatively set in concrete, I think the game on PS3 will start to improve. I didn't play GT5 at the VERY beginning, so I don't know exactly if it started like this, but I can only assume as the patches and updates come, things get added, more money can be make. And in the super car event, you can make about 30K in about 6 minutes, thats under 4 hours per 1 million credits. I imagine in the events in the super-class and iA class making credits will be harder but will take less time and be completely doable.

Sorry. I have to disagree with you. As the owner of both next-generation consoles and a custom gaming PC. GT6 is far from next-generation. Perhaps, the premium vehicles and driving physics come closest, but as the larger majority of the vehicles in the game are in sub-standard form, no damage implementation, unrealistic AI and unacceptable sound effect quality, GT6 is definitely current-generation. Unfortunately, I feel that GT6 was designed and released to be the end-cap vehicle almanac for the series on this generation. Sure, it has 1,200 vehicles in-game, but most of which are sub-standard in quality, I hate to say it, but GT6 is like a Pokemon game, except with cars.
 
I don't like Pokemon but I like the Pokemon-like aspect of GT. People complain about standards and they are valid complaints, but the cars are made. I am glad they decided to go ahead and throw them in the game. I just have to catch 'em all!

Me too! I just will not pay $50/7M or grind like a hermit to catch them all!
 
I've just bought the game to do this glitch before it's patched. Could someone please gift me the merc or the BMW M4 coupe so I can get started please? (Check my post history; I played GT5 a lot and traded with many people on these forums). Your help would be really appreciated.

Really? You posted immediately on here without even reading a single post in this thread nor identifying that this game has no gift option. If you did, you would realize that there is an FAQ on page 1 and 47.
 
If you have ever duped a car or parts you have glitched the game. If you have ever used the b-spec grinder you have glitched the game. I don't see this money glitch as being different. If anything it saves time, electricity and bandwidth compared to the constantly grinding we did in GT5.
 
I've just bought the game to do this glitch before it's patched. Could someone please gift me the merc or the BMW M4 coupe so I can get started please? (Check my post history; I played GT5 a lot and traded with many people on these forums). Your help would be really appreciated.
You can have the Mercedes gifted to you at the beginning of the game under the Vision GT Menu.
 
If you have ever duped a car or parts you have glitched the game. If you have ever used the b-spec grinder you have glitched the game. I don't see this money glitch as being different. If anything it saves time, electricity and bandwidth compared to the constantly grinding we did in GT5.

I remember reading countless horror stories of GT5 players burning out their consoles from grinding on "Like the Wind" with the X1.
 
Doing it once or doing it sixty times. What's the difference?


But, coming back to microtransactions, they weren't going to get any money out of me anyway so I don't feel any guilt or remorse about "glitching". The only thing I didn't like was how long it took, but it was completely worth it.

Doing it more than once, exploiting, eliminates any accidental defense claim.
I'm with you, I'd never buy in game credits. The problem is that some people WERE willing to give sony money and now SONY will lose out on that income if those people find out about this glitch.
Morally, I feel bad, I guess because I'm taking advantage of an oversight. This is no different that taking advantage of a promotion that says ONE ITEM PER PERSON or something along those lines, and then using multiple email accounts to take advantage of said promotion. For example some site giving out free mugs/wrist bands/key chain/whatever, except in this case it's $50 worth of in game currency. Whether you were going to give sony that $50 or not does not matter as that 20,000,000 now has a real world price attached to it.
I'm not up how laws work with games or in game transactions or whether there's any precedence so I can't say this and that will be the case, I'm simply stating HOW it COULD be brought up.
 
Doing it more than once, exploiting, eliminates any accidental defense claim.
I'm with you, I'd never buy in game credits. The problem is that some people WERE willing to give sony money and now SONY will lose out on that income if those people find out about this glitch.
Morally, I feel bad, I guess because I'm taking advantage of an oversight. This is no different that taking advantage of a promotion that says ONE ITEM PER PERSON or something along those lines, and then using multiple email accounts to take advantage of said promotion. For example some site giving out free mugs/wrist bands/key chain/whatever, except in this case it's $50 worth of in game currency. Whether you were going to give sony that $50 or not does not matter as that 20,000,000 now has a real world price attached to it.
I'm not up how laws work with games or in game transactions or whether there's any precedence so I can't say this and that will be the case, I'm simply stating HOW it COULD be brought up.

Do not feel bad, nor apologize for PD/Sony. Do you think they feel bad charging you $50/7M? Not in the least bit.
 
Doing it more than once, exploiting, eliminates any accidental defense claim.
I'm with you, I'd never buy in game credits. The problem is that some people WERE willing to give sony money and now SONY will lose out on that income if those people find out about this glitch.
Morally, I feel bad, I guess because I'm taking advantage of an oversight. This is no different that taking advantage of a promotion that says ONE ITEM PER PERSON or something along those lines, and then using multiple email accounts to take advantage of said promotion. For example some site giving out free mugs/wrist bands/key chain/whatever, except in this case it's $50 worth of in game currency. Whether you were going to give sony that $50 or not does not matter as that 20,000,000 now has a real world price attached to it.
I'm not up how laws work with games or in game transactions or whether there's any precedence so I can't say this and that will be the case, I'm simply stating HOW it COULD be brought up.

I see what you're saying. The difference to me is that in real life, taking advantage of real world promotions like that does affect someone. That is lost sales. However, there is no mint to produce credits. No one has to do anything. You give them money and credits are digitally produced out of nowhere and are given to you. They are also extremely overpriced. I get that not everyone has the time to grind for credits to buy the cars they want, but they could at least make the pricing reasonable. I mean, I still wouldn't pay for them, but the lunatic pricing on credits is incredibly strange and I honestly don't know how someone could spend that much for something like that. It's just my opinion though.
 
In for a penny in for a pound. You've already crossed the line man, just do it once more and you won't regret it :lol:

A side note on payouts. Ran a 20 lapper online in the Abarth 09' today at Bathurst. Finished 4th. 1 hr and 15 minutes with qualifying. Payout - $10,000:lol:

I used the leftover money to buy some other cars I wanted, so I'm good. :lol:
 
However, there is no mint to produce credits. No one has to do anything. You give them money and credits are digitally produced out of nowhere and are given to you.
So going by that logic, the downloaded version of GT6 is also "digitally produced out of nowhere", right? If I'm wrong, say so and give a better explanation or analogy.

The code and programming and however this black magic credit thing works also had to be at one point or another written and programmed by someone just as GT6 was.

People keep bringing up the ridiculous pricing as a defense but I can assure you, that would not fly in the real world.
 
So going by that logic, the downloaded version of GT6 is also "digitally produced out of nowhere", right? If I'm wrong, say so and give a better explanation or analogy.

The code and programming and however this black magic credit thing works also had to be at one point or another written and programmed by someone just as GT6 was.

People keep bringing up the ridiculous pricing as a defense but I can assure you, that would not fly in the real world.

I knew someone would bring up something like this. The game itself is a product. You are purchasing that product.
 
So going by that logic, the downloaded version of GT6 is also "digitally produced out of nowhere", right? If I'm wrong, say so and give a better explanation or analogy.

The code and programming and however this black magic credit thing works also had to be at one point or another written and programmed by someone just as GT6 was.

People keep bringing up the ridiculous pricing as a defense but I can assure you, that would not fly in the real world.

It is clear you are convinced by your logic and we will not/nor do we intend to convince you. So plain and simple, do not use the "exploit". Those who believe otherwise, will do so. But for you to debate and contradict a matter-of-fact argument is nonsensical. The cost of production and development was already paid for, this is why there is an MSRP (Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price). We have paid $59.99 (MSRP) + applicable taxes for the use/license of the content contained therein, but yet are further constrained by in-game credits ($50/7M) to actually use the vehicles we have already paid for, as we see fit. And to design the game to promote the purchase of micro-transaction by placing high-end 20M vehicles at an unrealistic, but strategic, marketable position by having to grind hundreds of hours is unfair and not right to the average consumer. This practice is actually, in-line with unfair business practices such as "price-gouging". Now, DLC on the other-hand is material sold after the fact. This I can understand paying for, although, many companies are now treading very closely to that fine line between what should have been included within the initial purchase and charging for it as a DLC.
 
So going by that logic, the downloaded version of GT6 is also "digitally produced out of nowhere", right? If I'm wrong, say so and give a better explanation or analogy.

The code and programming and however this black magic credit thing works also had to be at one point or another written and programmed by someone just as GT6 was.

People keep bringing up the ridiculous pricing as a defense but I can assure you, that would not fly in the real world.
You know what else doesn't fly in the real world? Going after paying customers. They could try to do it but it'd likely be thrown out in almost any court and they'd piss off so many people it wouldn't be worth it. Think about all of the companies that have fallen quickly from one bad, greedy move...Netflix, myspace, etc...
 
It is clear you are convinced by your logic and we will not/nor do we intend to convince you. So plain and simple, do not use the "exploit". Those who believe otherwise, will do so. But for you to debate and contradict a matter-of-fact argument is nonsensical. The cost of production and development was already paid for, this is why there is an MSRP (Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price). We have paid $59.99 (MSRP) + applicable taxes for the use/license of the content contained therein, but yet are further constrained by in-game credits ($50/7M) to actually use the vehicles we have already paid for, as we see fit. And to design the game to promote the purchase of micro-transaction by placing high-end 20M vehicles at an unrealistic, but strategic, marketable position by having to grind hundreds of hours is unfair and not right to the average consumer. This practice is actually, in-line with unfair business practices such as "price-gouging". Now, DLC on the other-hand is material sold after the fact. This I can understand paying for, although, many companies are now treading very closely to that fine line between what should have been included within the initial purchase and charging for it as a DLC.

Nicely worded. I also want to point out that I am not one of those people who feel "entitled". And I agree with your post very much.

No one here is going to change their viewpoint so it's kind of moot.

I would also like to add that I wouldn't ever buy a pet rock.
 
I believe it went something like this........

Kaz in a meeting with Sony:
I have completed Gran Turismo 6. It's awesome, everyone's going to love it.

Sony:
Kaz we need to make more money from it, we are going to do micro transactions. We will make a fortune.

Kaz:
Oh come on do we really need to do that when we know we will sell millions of copies of the game. Surely that will be enough. I really don't like it and am not happy about it.

Sony:
No Kaz we are doing it and there's nothing you can do about it. Money, money, money.

At this point Sony leave the room rubbing their hands. Singing "money,money,money"

Kaz :
Oh we will see about that......... PD office make me a new youtube account I've got an idea. We can just call it a glliittcchhh.
 
Nicely worded. I also want to point out that I am not one of those people who feel "entitled". And I agree with your post very much.

No one here is going to change their viewpoint so it's kind of moot.

I would also like to add that I wouldn't ever buy a pet rock.

I have a pet rock. Its name is "Rocky".
 
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Okay, I read the FAQ and don't think this was answered.

I went through and did the glitch. After reinstalling to the latest patch, I went to my garage to update the car images. However, after running the process, none of the images will actually update now. And when I go back to the main menu, the game freezes

I tried deleting the patch and reinstalling but the same thing happens. I also restored a patch from the cloud that I had saved back to yesterday before the glitch and the same thing happens

Any ideas? I'm out of them
 
Can't return the game to get a full refund (not that I intend to), so it's so tricky to get to them when all we can do is voice our opinions and not really hit their wallets, unless we stop loads of people from buying it for the time being.

This bothers me. I can understand not being able to return PC games because you can No-CD patch them, but you can't with console games. Anything else you can return if you are not satisfied, even food, but games you can not. It would be interesting to see how their sales numbers would be affected if returns were allowed and deducted. I have enjoyed every GT release since the first. I used to rent a PS1 from Blockbuster just so I could play it. But the gaming industry has become too greedy over the past few years. I now MAYBE buy two new releases a year, but I can see that stopping soon. I'm sure I will get **** on for feeling like this from the younger generation, seeing as they have mostly come up with this being the norm, but it used to be so much better. I understand it's evolution of the industry, but it's a negative evolution.
 
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