200pt A-spec races

[SirBerra]

I think he is talking about the curved section after the bridge? and just before the sharp left hander about half way round the track. I've used it many times and it does save you a few seconds.
nige

Yup, Nige, that's the one. You cut the first field, cross over the race track, cut the second field and coast onto the race track. You have to cut it just right so you don't overshoot the track on the other side (which wastes time).

I figured I only required the front straight shortcut in order to win that race since my vehicle got far better tire mileage by a few laps. So the AI needed one more pit stop than I did. I was just sort of tired, lazy and anxious to get the race over with.

 

[nige]

I figured I only required the front straight shortcut in order to win that race since my vehicle got far better tire mileage by a few laps. So the AI needed one more pit stop than I did. I was just sort of tired, lazy and anxious to get the race over with.[/QUOTE by SirBerra)


You've tempted me to have a go at that one for 200 points now! I've only got Motegi, Nurburgring and Suzuka left to do. Don't know whether to use the Audi R8 or the Mazda though!
nige

 

[SirBerra]

I figured I only required the front straight shortcut in order to win that race since my vehicle got far better tire mileage by a few laps. So the AI needed one more pit stop than I did. I was just sort of tired, lazy and anxious to get the race over with.[/QUOTE by SirBerra)


You've tempted me to have a go at that one for 200 points now! I've only got Motegi, Nurburgring and Suzuka left to do. Don't know whether to use the Audi R8 or the Mazda though!
nige

I used the Audi R8 for both Motegis, Nurburgring and Suzuka.

At Nurburgring I set the Audi suspension fairly soft and gave it plenty of ride height so it didn't bottom out. I made sure the R8 had a very high top speed on the back straight and added a burst of nitro. It left those F1 cars in the dust. I don't remember if the R8 could go one more lap than the F1 cars because I did that race long time ago when I originally used the R8 since it was easier for me to control than the F1 car at the time.

At Motegi Road Course I made sure the Audi had plenty of height to cut grass and sand without bouncing all over the place. With my usual R3/R2 (medium/hard) setup the tires easily lasted 3 laps more per tire change than the F1 cars.

Suzuka was the hardest. I won only by a 18 second margin even using the front straight shortcut. So many places I had to be careful of not slipping off the course into sand (a biyatch to get stuck in). If you don't top off fuel at pit stops you gain about two seconds or so over the F1 cars. On a good lap I could gain a second or so on the fastest F1 car using the shortcut. But I didn't consistently turn good laps. I had to turn it down a bit to be careful not to make a huge bonehead blunder. I'm doing this with a PS2 controller and my thumb was getting a bit shaky. I didn't go off the course (except for the shortcut) at all. Oh yeh, that was the only course I could only get equal tire wear to the F1 cars (I think it was 8 laps). One more lap would have been much slower and too risky on four orange tires. If you can win Suzuka with the 787B, I'd be happy to praise you about it.

You can do it so you might as well stop procrastinating. Not that you need to since you've already got your 100,000. Just greedy, I guess.

Update:
Just wanted to add that I tested the Chap 2J with Stage 3 Turbo at Motegi Road Course until right after the first pit stop and was ahead by about 10 seconds using only the front straight shortcut. I could safely get one more lap than the F1 cars from the tire setup (R3/R2). So in my opinion the Chap 2J is another winning contender at Motegi RC against the F1 cars.

 

[nige]

I used the Audi R8 for both Motegis, Nurburgring and Suzuka.

At Nurburgring I set the Audi suspension fairly soft and gave it plenty of ride height so it didn't bottom out. I made sure the R8 had a very high top speed on the back straight and added a burst of nitro. It left those F1 cars in the dust. I don't remember if the R8 could go one more lap than the F1 cars because I did that race long time ago when I originally used the R8 since it was easier for me to control than the F1 car at the time.

At Motegi Road Course I made sure the Audi had plenty of height to cut grass and sand without bouncing all over the place. With my usual R3/R2 (medium/hard) setup the tires easily lasted 3 laps more per tire change than the F1 cars.

Suzuka was the hardest. I won only by a 18 second margin even using the front straight shortcut. So many places I had to be careful of not slipping off the course into sand (a biyatch to get stuck in). If you don't top off fuel at pit stops you gain about two seconds or so over the F1 cars. On a good lap I could gain a second or so on the fastest F1 car using the shortcut. But I didn't consistently turn good laps. I had to turn it down a bit to be careful not to make a huge bonehead blunder. I'm doing this with a PS2 controller and my thumb was getting a bit shaky. I didn't go off the course (except for the shortcut) at all. Oh yeh, that was the only course I could only get equal tire wear to the F1 cars (I think it was 8 laps). One more lap would have been much slower and too risky on four orange tires. If you can win Suzuka with the 787B, I'd be happy to praise you about it.

You can do it so you might as well stop procrastinating. Not that you need to since you've already got your 100,000. Just greedy, I guess.

Cheers SirBerra that's really useful info . I thought about using the Audi R8 so will probably stick with that. Might have a go at Suzuka with the Mazda 787B!!!!!! I'll let you know how I get on.
nige

BTW me "procrastinate"!!!!!!!! i don't know what you mean?!

 

[phonypoly]

I see 200 points A-Spec but i can't find a 200 points B-Spec list? is there a list of high B-Spec points cars?????
Thanks!👍

I did a search for: train B-Spec driver... and it took me back here.........Zzzzzzz

 

[the Interceptor]

You can't make a list of high B-spec points cars, because the amount of additional knowledge your B-spec driver gains in a specific race with a specific car is not set. It depends on how experienced he already is, and if he has been driving on the same track or in the same car before. So, you can not tell how many points he will get.

However, there are threads how to train your B-spec driver properly, so I suggest you look for those.

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[AMG.]

I see 200 points A-Spec but i can't find a 200 points B-Spec list? is there a list of high B-Spec points cars?????
Thanks!👍

I did a search for: train B-Spec driver... and it took me back here.........Zzzzzzz

It doesn't work that way. Read this thread (start in post 1 as it has useful links) https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=69405

Just read your sig. Why do you bother playing this game if you believe it to be nothing but
Get something else 💡 and enjoy yourself, life's too short to waste it

AMG.

 

[Pupik]

I searched through this thread (yes, with search), but didn't find anyone doing special conditions - tsukuba wet (hard).

You can get 200 points for this race in a fully kitted out skyline GT-R (I used the R-34 V-Spec II Nür edition). Yes you can win - I can put up a photo if you want proof.

The challenge to yourself is to do it without aids and without a race edition car. If I can do it, so can you

I just ran this last night with the black Mazda 787B (used oil, no power mods, R3 tires front and rear, max downforce, chassis refresh). My opponent was the Minolta Toyota 88C-V, and it was a not-too-difficult 200 points.

I've yet to try a road car for it, though.

I may give this old LM'er a shot at an FGT race one day, since SirBerra can do it.

 

[SirBerra]

I just ran this last night with the black Mazda 787B (used oil, no power mods, R3 tires front and rear, max downforce, chassis refresh). My opponent was the Minolta Toyota 88C-V, and it was a not-too-difficult 200 points.

I've yet to try a road car for it, though.

I may give this old LM'er a shot at an FGT race one day, since SirBerra can do it.

Wheeze, cough. If even an old bloke like me can do it, surely any young man in the peak of life can beat FGT with an LM car.

I used a stock HP Chaparral 2J with R1s at Tsukuba Wet for 200 points. The opposition (Audi R8??) never stood a chance. It won by 32 seconds with a total time of 4:25. I would also like to try with some other cars. I know I've won using the Suzuki GSX-R/4 but would like to try some street car just for kicks.

Update: Just bought a production Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec C and modded it to about 450 HP and removed as much weight as possible. Added R5s and beat the Audi R8, Bentley Speed 8 and Sauber C9 at Hard Tsukuba Wet by 4 to 7 seconds. Didn't even need downforce, nitro, or cheating. So it isn't that big a deal to win there using a non-race car. Guess I'll try an Audi Quattro next.

Right now I'm busy tearing what's left of my thinning hair out with World Classic Cars and European 1000 Miles. Now those races are really hard for 200 points or even 180 points. All those darn resets.

 

[Fizio]

I'm having lots of trouble with 1000 miles...
I did Nurb for 200 pts few months ago...
Today I tried Le sarth and Opera and failed...

This is what I have in my notes from this thread. I think its ANK's...
1000 Miles :

Race 1 Nurburgring
Used Honda S600 stage 3 tune race exhaust race chip N1/N2 tyres 173 ballast
against this line up.

Nissan Skyline 2000GT-B (S54A)
Nissan Silvia (CSP311)
Isuzu Bellett 1600GT-R
Honda S800
Mazda 110S (L10A)

Used NOS to get ahead at the start then block for 6 laps at the end of lap 6 ram the Mazda past the pits he now has to do a full lap on bad tyres if he does get in the pits on lap 6 you will struggle to do your own pit stop and get out in front of him.
Pit on lap 8 do not swap for better tyres.
Lap 13 ram the Mazda past the pit again.
Pit on lap 16 do not swap for better tyres then run for home.
Try and save as much NOS as possible only use it if a car manages to get past then just use enough to get back in front again.

Race 2 Opera Paris
Used Honda S600 Stage 2 tune race exhaust S1 tyres 154 ballast against 1st line up.
Pit stops lap 18, 36, 53, change to S2 tyres, 67, 81.

1st lineup is :
VW Karmann Ghia
Fiat 500f
Honda S800
Alfa GTA 1600
Mini Macros GT
Me

I tried that but I have to put 185 ballast to get 200pts. I can manage constant 1:51.xxx laps even 1:50:8xx on some hot laps without NOS. Alfa GTA which is main opponent pits every 25 laps... so on 95 laps race GTA pits 3 times...
Any sugestions?? Maybe different lineup??

Race 3 Cote D Azur
Used Honda S600 Stage 3 tune race exhaust race chip N1/N2 tyres 173 ballast against same line up as Nurburgring.
Pit on lap 30 change to N2/N3 tyres then pit on lap 53, 76.

Race 4 Circuit De La Sarthe
Used Honda S600 Stage 3 tune race exhaust race chip N1/N2 tyres 58 ballast against 1st line up.
Just keep blocking down the long straight or slipstream if the Alfa gets past pit on lap 19.

Tried that too... and also failed...
Mini macros is also damn quick so I have to block both of them...

 

[Moloch_horridus]

I'm having lots of trouble with 1000 miles...
1st lineup is :
VW Karmann Ghia
Fiat 500f
Honda S800
Alfa GTA 1600
Mini Macros GT
Me

I tried that but I have to put 185 ballast to get 200pts. I can manage constant 1:51.xxx laps even 1:50:8xx on some hot laps without NOS. Alfa GTA which is main opponent pits every 25 laps... so on 95 laps race GTA pits 3 times...
Any sugestions?? Maybe different lineup??

Definitely a different lineup - that Fiat is really dragging the points down - finding the right lineup here is very difficult and you need to do a lot of blocking against the right lineup. It was too difficult for me. I could not find the reported NTSC lineup in my PAL version.

 

[jbrennen]

Update: Just bought a production Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec C and modded it to about 450 HP and removed as much weight as possible. Added R5s and beat the Audi R8, Bentley Speed 8 and Sauber C9 at Hard Tsukuba Wet by 4 to 7 seconds. Didn't even need downforce, nitro, or cheating. So it isn't that big a deal to win there using a non-race car. Guess I'll try an Audi Quattro next.

Like I previously posted, I won Hard Tsukuba Wet in a RUF 3400S by a healthy margin. Super soft tires, no downforce (of course -- you can't fit a wing on the 3400S), no nitrous. It did have maximum power (just over 500HP) and minimum weight.

It would be interesting to see if a stock car like a Z06 or Viper would have a chance in this race with tires being the only modification (and without punting the opposition off into the sand).

 

[SirBerra]

Yes, Fizio, I have been following your past threads, and I understand how it can be done, but I keep thinking there is some magic combination that can do it with less trouble. I happened to find a combo (World Classic Cars) using a fairly weak Alfa Duetto that netted me 195 points at El Capitan with not much trouble. I screwed up by not writing down the entire lineup which had a Mini Marcos, Lotus Elan, Toyota GT2000 and a couple of other cars which I don't clearly remember. I had accidentally hit the button that let me out of that race lineup or I would have gone for 200 points with some more ballast. But the point was that there didn't seem to be any massively overpowering car to jack up those points. Just a bunch of fairly fast cars.

Now the 1000 Miles is something else since there are lot more variables over that length of a race. I think that even if you go against the same lineup throughout all the series races, your car is going to lack something in a particular race (cornering, top speed, tire wear, etc.).

I don't claim to be smart enough to figure this stuff out, but everytime I select a different car to race, the lineup changes with majorly different opponent cars (like it's teasing me) and I just figure there is some lucky combo at each track that shouldn't require really hard work to win for 200 points at a particular track with a particular car. I might be wrong, but I'll keep trying for a while. I've got all the cars ready so I might as well go at it from a different angle. Resets be damned.

 

[SirBerra]

Like I previously posted, I won Hard Tsukuba Wet in a RUF 3400S by a healthy margin. Super soft tires, no downforce (of course -- you can't fit a wing on the 3400S), no nitrous. It did have maximum power (just over 500HP) and minimum weight.

It would be interesting to see if a stock car like a Z06 or Viper would have a chance in this race with tires being the only modification (and without punting the opposition off into the sand).

I'll give it a shot just to see if it is likely. I pass on using the Z06, if you can't add HP mods. There might be some production Viper than can do it since they generally have good traction and probably a decent HP/weight ratio. Might need a wing, though. I'll definitely use traction aids as always. Finding a stock car to win that race should be a challenge. Maybe the top Zonda or Tuscan Speed 6. Nah. The Nissan 390 GT1 Road Car seems a good bet.

Update: Just spent 630,000 credits on the top Pagani Zonda. Added some R5s, period, otherwise dead stock. Went up against the Bentley Speed 8 and had him for lunch by 8 seconds at the end with no practice. Yowzah, you can powerslide that Zonda in the wet like crazy, but it's very neutral, so it goes where you point it. It can out-accelerate the the Bentley in the wet. It's expensive, but it is STOCK, except for tires. It already has some weight reduction.

I tried the Ford GT you get from winning that race, but it didn't have enough oomph or something. I could only hang behind the AI car but couldn't get past.

The Audi LeMans Quattro with R5s that I tried smoked the Mazda 787B. I tried the highest priced Viper, a TVR Speed 6, older Cerbera and an Audi 3.2 TT Quattro and lost by a large margin. They just don't have enough HP but they handle fairly well. With mods, they should easily beat any of those race cars.
I'm ending my quest since I have other fish to fry, but hope you find a cheap car that can do the deed.

 

[AMG.]

Now the 1000 Miles is something else

Any race involving the <70 cars are indeed a pain in the neck wrt getting a decent lineup. Not so long ago I did it with an Elan on N1 + max ballast.
Switched to N3 on lap 2.
4 hours Nurb, yawn, 3min 15 sec MoV
3 hours Opera, yawn, 1 min 10s MoV
3.5 hours Monaco, lot of yawn, 3 laps + 40 sec MoV
all for 131/132/132 points.
against Ginetta, Marcos, Elan, AR Sprint Spec and a Bellet in 5th.

Sarthe was done earlier for 80 with the Elan but different lineup.

On Eu classics Ive managed 200 for the last 3 races. I made a note of the lineup to attempt to use it for race 1 and 2 and have tried several times up to 40 resets to get the same lineup again. Never got it again.
Frustrating !

AMG.

 

[Fizio]

1000 Miles - Opera Paris - 200pts

Against first lineup... (what a relief...👍 )

I used Honda S600 with:
Racing exhaust, Chip, NA2 tune,Port polish, Engine Balancing, Stiffness, N2/N3 tyres, NOS, Brakes All, Tranny All (Auto 3), Suspension racing (Spring rate 10,0/10,0, Ride hight 116/116, Bounce 8/8, Rebound 9/9, Chamber 1,5/2,5, Toe 0/0, Stabiliser 5/5) , 2-way LSD, 178 Ballast --> 82HP

Yesterday I was trying with Sport Tyres but car is too slow to get advantage on sport tyres and you can do 18 laps with them while Alfa pits every 25 laps...So I changed my tactics and used N2/N3 to cope with Alfa's pit schedual...

With this "constalation" this race is too easy considering it's 1000 Miles Series... On race start I used little bit of NOS to get the first place. That is all of NOS I needed for the race. After that it's smooth ride with some defensive lines and blocking on the strait... Make sure to pit on laps 25, 50 and 75 and that you enter the pit in front Alfa... Lap times were around 1:52 - 1:54...
Greatest moments of the race were when on T2 (begining of the straight section) Alfa is cca. 1,2 to 1,4 sec behind. She is begining to catch me (make sure on the left hander you hold the inside line) and then I let her begin to pass from right side and when we are side by side turn the wheel right ooops there is a wall just made for her... Sorry...

Best Lap: 1:51.402
Race time: 3:00'56.080

 

[SirBerra]

Any race involving the <70 cars are indeed a pain in the neck wrt getting a decent lineup. Not so long ago I did it with an Elan on N1 + max ballast.
Switched to N3 on lap 2.
4 hours Nurb, yawn, 3min 15 sec MoV
3 hours Opera, yawn, 1 min 10s MoV
3.5 hours Monaco, lot of yawn, 3 laps + 40 sec MoV
all for 131/132/132 points.
against Ginetta, Marcos, Elan, AR Sprint Spec and a Bellet in 5th.

Sarthe was done earlier for 80 with the Elan but different lineup.

On Eu classics Ive managed 200 for the last 3 races. I made a note of the lineup to attempt to use it for race 1 and 2 and have tried several times up to 40 resets to get the same lineup again. Never got it again.
Frustrating !

AMG.

I did Euro Classics for 1 point each race long time ago, so I've really got to do that series again. It doesn't appear too hard, but I'll see how it is in practice. If I can get 190 points, I can live with that.

I've recently done the 1000 Miles for 131/156/156/136 easily (I think I used a pink Nissan Sports Sedan or something) after only a few resets, but I honestly THINK I can do much better. (40...frickin'....resets...OMG!) I get antsy after 4 or 5 resets.

In Professional Historic Car Series I have over 150 (El Cap-190) in all races and I've got to back off due to extreme frustration.

I just got sort of caught up in this Old Car stuff but it's wearing on my nerves with those weirdly unbalanced lineups. I'll keep checking on all your tips and hope I get lucky.

 

[SirBerra]

1000 Miles - Opera Paris - 200pts

Against first lineup... (what a relief...👍 )

I used Honda S600 with:
Racing exhaust, Chip, NA2 tune,Port polish, Engine Balancing, Stiffness, N2/N3 tyres, NOS, Brakes All, Tranny All (Auto 3), Suspension racing (Spring rate 10,0/10,0, Ride hight 116/116, Bounce 8/8, Rebound 9/9, Chamber 1,5/2,5, Toe 0/0, Stabiliser 5/5) , 2-way LSD, 178 Ballast --> 82HP

Yesterday I was trying with Sport Tyres but car is too slow to get advantage on sport tyres and you can do 18 laps with them while Alfa pits every 25 laps...So I changed my tactics and used N2/N3 to cope with Alfa's pit schedual...

With this "constalation" this race is too easy considering it's 1000 Miles Series... On race start I used little bit of NOS to get the first place. That is all of NOS I needed for the race. After that it's smooth ride with some defensive lines and blocking on the strait... Make sure to pit on laps 25, 50 and 75 and that you enter the pit in front Alfa... Lap times were around 1:52 - 1:54...
Greatest moments of the race were when on T2 (begining of the straight section) Alfa is cca. 1,2 to 1,4 sec behind. She is begining to catch me (make sure on the left hander you hold the inside line) and then I let her begin to pass from right side and when we are side by side turn the wheel right ooops there is a wall just made for her... Sorry...

Best Lap: 1:51.402
Race time: 3:00'56.080

Again, my hats off to ya. I appreciate your setup info. I like those Honda cars and will try when I get some spare time. Right now I'm a little pressed for time but will be keeping tabs on your exploits.

*********************************************
Hot update:
There are good days and there are great days. This day was better than great. I'll set scenario.

The Series: Professional World Classic Car Series, Five races won at 200 A-spec points
The Car: Carbon Black??? Volkswagen Beetle 1100 (probably just faded black paint)
The Specs: Various settings of HP, Standard tires, NOx, ballast
The Various Competition Lineups in different races:

1...Ginetta G4, Mini Marcos, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale, Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto (Easy)

2...Chevy Corvette C2 '63, Toyota 2000GT, Alfa Romeo Guilia Sprint GTA, Chevrolet Corvette Convert C1, Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto (Hardest)

3...Ginetta G4, Chevrolet Corvette Convert C1, Toyota 2000GT, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale (Easy)
I did a total of about 15 resets.

200 A-spec points sweep (some races were a breeze, but a couple were somewhat difficult since I had to do a lot of blocking, shortcuts and bumping). In a race at El Capitan I went head to head with the Corvette '63 and that Vette was darn fast but I used Economy Tires and more HP and was able outrun it using long NOx bursts.

I did the first lineup as part of a full Series and got 200 points for Fuji and Opera and only got very high points for the other races since I overestimated the competition by giving my car more HP than necessary. It was hard for me to estimate what it takes to get 200 points without overhandicapping my vehicle too much. I really think that all the races would have able to be won for 200 points with that lineup if I hadn't been so cautious.

The rest of the races I did as single races where I could back out and reset my Beetle for optimum attributes.

The Nurb was the hardest because near the end I had the Ginetta and Lotus Elan running side-by-side behind me at nearly the same speed down the back straight. I had to keep blocking both cars as each jockeyed to pass me. I managed to run the Ginetta off the road and had to let the Lotus pass me. I had about 3 remaining units of NOx set at 90 so I was able to eventually overtake the Lotus on the downhill part of the straight. I blew past him just before the uphill S turn to the finish line. Whew. That was so exhilarating. Throughout the race I had to use NOx sparingly just to barely keep ahead of both those cars if they happened to get their noses past the side of me. What's strange is that the Ginetta is usually far behind near the end because it's always sliding off-course. That was a surprise.

Conclusion:
I didn't have to do a lot of resets. I got three decent lineups that could be beaten for 200 points with the Beetle Bug without using superhuman effort. There was a fourth lineup I didn't write up because it consisted of similar cars. I am definitely going to try using the Beetle for other Historic Races especially the Euro 1000 Miles. It handles pretty well and feels rather strong. Only five gears is a bit of a hindrance. The shape is semi-streamlined so I guess that's helpful.
Tips: Always hope for a Ginetta, Toyota 2000GT, '54 Corvette and Mini Marcos all in a lineup. They're chumps and help boost points. Avoid racing any Vettes older than '54 in long races. In the shorter races you can overtake them and block them using NOx. Those Alfas are just fill-ins and don't mean much at all. The Lotus Elan is a wild card with good speed and handling on all courses. Forget any race with a Mercury, AC Cobra or Buick, they're impossible to catch or block and even if you knock them flying off the course (which I did), they get back faster than you can blink (absurdly fast).

I hope this info is useful.

Yes....Today was a very good day for racing and now sitting at 85,000 or so A-spec points with many, many more One Make Races to go.

 

[Fizio]

1000 Miles - Cote D Azur - 200pts

Against first lineup...👍

I used Honda S600 with:
Racing exhaust, Chip, NA2 tune,Port polish, Engine Balancing, Stiffness, N2/N2 tyres, NOS, Brakes All, Tranny All (Auto 3), Suspension racing (Spring rate 10,0/10,0, Ride hight 116/116, Bounce 8/8, Rebound 9/9, Chamber 1,5/2,5, Toe 0/0, Stabiliser 5/5) , 2-way LSD, 178 Ballast --> 82HP

I used same tactics as on Opera but switched to N2/N2, again because Alfa's pit schedual... On race start I used little bit of NOS to get the first place.
Make sure to pit on laps 31 and 62. If you drive gentle enough your tyres should be light green to yelow at pit time but you have to go into pit anyway to stay in front Alfa and keep blocking. On lap 93 Alfa will go into pit but you dont since tyres can hold 6 more laps till the end of race and there is possibility if you go into pit that VW Karmann Ghia passes you because his lap times are better then yours and since you are blocking and slowing down Alfa VW and Mini Macros are not far behind... Lap times were around 2:16 - 2:18... All in all race is not hard just long lasting...

Race time: 3:47'58.372
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Just Le Sarth left in 1000 Miles Series for which I don't have a recipe yet...
Opera and Cote D Azur were not that dificult because of tight course.
Any sugestons???
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Well done SirBerra... +Rep for the info.... 👍
VW is abviously a great discovery... I never thought off it...
Do you think it could be good for Le Sarthe?? Whats the top speed??

 

[SuperCobraJet]

The 1000 mi series is a Bear. Currently on my 4th game replay of Gt4 and decided this time I would go for all the 200 pointers. I spent approx. 3 million bucks and a week of game play trying almost every car, setup and combination of lineup including all the ones mentioned here.
I finally settled on the 62 Skyline coupe(94HP) against the Mini Marcos, Alfa Speciale, Honda 800, 65 Silvia and Fiat500 which will take quite a few resets to get. It will set you back 320 grand for the car but I believe it is the best one for the job. The 62 skyline with 6 gears runs good, drives well with N1s and very well with N2s and 3s. Its also bigger, wider, and heavier so its better for blocking and shoving when needed which btw it will be. I did all 4 races with it. The Nurb being the toughest, followed by Le Sarthe, Cote Azure and the Opera being the easiest.

Use all the optional goodies and set the car up for each track, maximizing gears, suspension, etc.
Other than that, use NOS only to keep the Mini and Alfa behind you. I blocked the Mini out of the first pit stop at the Nurb, And switched to N2s and 3s at the first pitstop on every track.

Hope this may work for some of you.
With so many possible combinations and ranges of power in this series it is difficult and very time consuming to try and find a optimum choice.

 

[SirBerra]

Holy Teutonic Testicles! The Beetle cleanly swept the Europe Classic Car League for 200 A-spec points for all five races. Both the Beetle and I have had one busy day.

Used my now favorite Black Bug against pretty much the same lineups at every track except the Nurb. The Mercedes just killed the Beetle at Nurb. In the other four races even if the Mercedes 300 was present it didn't make a difference. The Beetle with NOx could overcome the HP handicap. But at the Nurb it was a no-go. I could not catch the Mercedes without blowing all my NOx. I considered it a futile waste of time and had to reset about 20 times to get a lineup the Beetle could manage. First I'll give the lineup for the Nurb at 200 points.

1...Mini Marcos GT, Lotus Elan S1, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale, Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto

I knew the car to beat was the Lotus Elan S1. My Bug had about 65 HP and added ballast with NOx set to 85. I had to catch the Lotus early and get in front and had to block both the Lotus and GTA for about 3/4 of the race. The reason the GTA caught up with us was because I slowed the Lotus down by blocking. Letting them push me from behind by blocking kept my NOx reserves up for the most part. I know for a fact I need at least 3 to 4 NOx units for the long back straight. At the end it was just me and the Lotus on the back straight and on the downhill part of the end of the straight he was right alongside of me and I was on my last NOx burst unit. I managed to force him to the grass and he fell back. My NOx was gone and he was only a several car lengths behind. I managed to hang on the last S turn before the finish and I was home free. Take that, sucker. Whew! The Nurb always seems to be the hardest even using grass shortcuts.

These are two lineups from the other races (Fuji, Opera, Suzuka and Deep Forest). The remaining races are very easy since there are no really long straights and there are plenty of turns. If cars get in your way, just bump them aside. I always had plenty of NOx left over at the end. I won by wide margins. Two of the races had the Mercedes 300, but it hardly mattered. It was a slow moving slug on twisty courses. It doesn't accellerate very quickly at all. My Bug was nimble and NOx powerful.

2...Mercedes 300 SL Coupe, Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto, Lotus Elan S1, Ginetta G4, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale

3...Mini Marcos GT, Lotus Elan S1, Alfa Romeo Giulia Spring GTA 1600, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale, Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto.

Both Opera and Suzuka had a Mercedes 300 Coupe in the lineup first on the grid. No sweat. At Suzuka with a quick NOx burst at the start I knocked the Mercedes into the sand on the first turn and that was it. Easy victory. In Opera the Mercedes went around turns like an ocean liner. My Bug flew around corners on Comfort front tires.

The third lineup was typical for both Fuji and Deep Forest (at Deep Forest there was a Ginetta G4 that couldn't handle worth beans and allowed me to jack up my HP) I won by many seconds at each race.

I had to do about 20 resets at Nurb to get the right lineup. The other races only required about 5 resets because I didn't care if the Mercedes was in the lineup.

Naturally I had to reset lineups if it had these cars anywhere: AC Cobra, E-Type Jag, one or two Fiats (those tiddlers mess the points up terribly) and only on Nurb the Mercedes 300 Coupe. Including all five races I must have done about 30 to 40 resets in total.

Conclusion:
Teutonic Titillation! I really, really like the Beetle. I'm not going to compare it to those Honda 500s or 600s. I've used them, but didn't have the success as I had with the Beetle. It's a solid car. I was gonna try the Karmann, but the Beetle was so cool-looking.

So now that those races are out of the way, it's off the the 1000 Miles again. I won't be able to use NOx as a long-term solution so I think I'd better find some other way of winning. I know you guys that scored 200 points at that race worked very hard and you got my respect. Gosh, it's such a long haul.

I really hate taking notes, but I hope this info helps. I know the Beetle settings very well, so I can answer any questions about it.

**For Fizio. If I use a 65 HP engine setup, the top speed is about 100 MPH without NOx and 120 MPH with NOx set to 80. I keep my top gear with headroom mainly for NOx bursts (drafting doesn't work very well). Hey, I don't want to max out my top speed at a critical moment. The Lotus' top speed is about 115 to 117 MPH. I need to have a bit more top end to catch it if necessary. The Mercedes top speed is probably about 125 to 130 and only a 75 HP Bug can touch that with NOx.

 

[AMG.]

I really hate taking notes, but I hope this info helps. I know the Beetle settings very well, so I can answer any questions about it.

+rep 👍 but alas you'll need to wait as I need to hand out to others before I can hand out to you again.
Good info there despite the above mentioned really hate taking notes
I'm not far off from my 1st goal so I'll put the info to good use now that my holidays have kicked in and I'm spending it all in "Balcony-a".

AMG.

 

[SirBerra]

+rep 👍 but alas you'll need to wait as I need to hand out to others before I can hand out to you again.
Good info there despite the above mentioned really hate taking notes
I'm not far off from my 1st goal so I'll put the info to good use now that my holidays have kicked in and I'm spending it all in "Balcony-a".

AMG.

No problem, I'm not asking for any recognition (what is that +rep stuff anyway?), so don't concern yourself about it. I just want to get the information out and and let other racers know how much fun I had. You think I'm gonna hold onto my race info? Nope. I've got it scattered on lots of little bits of scrap paper. I usually forget it all in a few days.

 

[Metar]

That +Rep stuff is a system implemented in the site, which enables any user with more than 100 posts to "rep" someone - if you find someone's post helpful, nice or funny, then you can add him a reputation-point (that red tick on the upper-left side of the post), or if you think it's stupid, than add a negative reputation-point. Users which have been positively ticked for 30 times (each time adds 10 points), get the "Quality Posts" icon below the location.

 

[SirBerra]

The 1000 mi series is a Bear. Currently on my 4th game replay of Gt4 and decided this time I would go for all the 200 pointers. I spent approx. 3 million bucks and a week of game play trying almost every car, setup and combination of lineup including all the ones mentioned here.
I finally settled on the 62 Skyline coupe(94HP) against the Mini Marcos, Alfa Speciale, Honda 800, 65 Silvia and Fiat500 which will take quite a few resets to get. It will set you back 320 grand for the car but I believe it is the best one for the job. The 62 skyline with 6 gears runs good, drives well with N1s and very well with N2s and 3s. Its also bigger, wider, and heavier so its better for blocking and shoving when needed which btw it will be. I did all 4 races with it. The Nurb being the toughest, followed by Le Sarthe, Cote Azure and the Opera being the easiest.

Use all the optional goodies and set the car up for each track, maximizing gears, suspension, etc.
Other than that, use NOS only to keep the Mini and Alfa behind you. I blocked the Mini out of the first pit stop at the Nurb, And switched to N2s and 3s at the first pitstop on every track.

Hope this may work for some of you.
With so many possible combinations and ranges of power in this series it is difficult and very time consuming to try and find a optimum choice.

Cool. I wish I had known about the 200 A-spec points challenge when I first started, so I wouldn't have to rerun everything again. Okay, I've bought or won all the cars necessary. I considered 300,000 credits a drop in the bucket. I've already spent whatever I've needed to get all my cars lined up for the 1000 Miles assault. Using the costly Nissan Sport I easily got 130/156/156/136 the first go round. It is an excellent car in many aspects. I could have easily got more points per race but I didn't really care at the time. No blocking was necessary. Unfortunately I don't remember the lineup (I did it as a one-shot full Series), so I'll have to carefully study the lineups this time. This time I'll run the 1000 Miles as single races for optimum attributes.

So far from what lineups I've tested just today, I don't think the Beetle will make the cut at Sarthe or Nurb. It was too underpowered at those tracks, but might be very useful at Opera and Cote D'Azure.

I haven't formulated strategies at each track yet, but I'll start with what most of you have already done and maybe move on to my own naive theories. I honestly don't relish the idea of blocking for an hour or two. I never even considered the size of the car being better for blocking. From what I've seen so far, I suppose I'd better add that to the mix. But using a Honda 500 or 600 would sort of limit blocking potential and those are what people are using to win. Anyway, I'm hoping for a miracle discovery. A magic car, you might say.

Thank you for your tips and I'll be keeping track of your results.

 

[SirBerra]

That +Rep stuff is a system implemented in the site, which enables any user with more than 100 posts to "rep" someone - if you find someone's post helpful, nice or funny, then you can add him a reputation-point (that red tick on the upper-left side of the post), or if you think it's stupid, than add a negative reputation-point. Users which have been positively ticked for 30 times (each time adds 10 points), get the "Quality Posts" icon below the location.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that, although I did notice icons that some of you have. I thought is was self-bestowed stuff. My knowledge of forum workings is fairly poor. I only type and read and that's about it.

 

[Fizio]

1000 Miles - Le Sarth II - 200pts

Against first lineup...👍

I used Nissan Skyline Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62 with:
Sport exhaust, Stiffness, N1/N2 tyres, NOS(70), Brakes All, Tranny All (Auto 5), Suspension racing (Spring rate 10,0/10,0, Ride hight 125/125, Bounce 8/8, Rebound 9/9, Chamber 1,5/2,5, Toe 0/0, Stabiliser 4/4) , 2-way LSD, 90 Ballast --> 96 HP

Tactics is again the same as in all races in the series. Use NOS to get ahead and then block... First 3 or 4 laps you have to block both Alfa and Macros, after few laps there is only Alfa left due to Mini's crapy driving and sand excursions... Thanks SuperCobraJet for pointing out on this Nissan... It's so much better for Le Sarth than Honda S600... It made this race easy unlike all earlier attempts I tried with various cars and lineups... In all the race I used bearly a 1/4 of NOS just to get ahead of Alfa and Mini. The car is great. It's cornering speed and breaks are outstanding even on N1/N2. Even better than Alfa's. I could match or even outmatch Alfa's cornering with no sweat which was not the case with Honda S600...Nisssan is preatty gentle both on tyres and fuel consumption. I entered pit on lap 21 even the tyres were still green. I think this car could maybe do entire race without even entering the pit but I didn't want to gamble on > 3 hours race. Ofcourse lap 21 is when Alfa enters the pit... Almost forgot. Cut streight through last few corners between pit entrance and start/finish line. While cutting try to find line ovet grass and avoid sand. It'll gain you 6,5 sec.

Lap times were around 5:35 - 5:38...
Race time: 3:18'22.751
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Finally finished with 1000 Miles series...👍
Only 2000 pts left... Thats 10 of the longest endurances, all 4 or more hours...

I'm pretty much 100% sure there is no way for getting 200 pts in this series without blocking... This combinations for Opera , Cote and Le Sarts with 1st lineup are relatively easy and obviously there is no need for numerous line up changes... You "just" need consistent smooth driving for 3-4 hours per race and have to know Alfa's pitting schedual... Good thing about this car-setup-opposition-track combo is that you have to worry only about 1 main opponent. Should I mention that it's Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 '65... Poor thing must be frustrated by looking in my ass for 14 hours throughout the series...

 

[AMG.]

I used Nissan Skyline Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62

Question:
Ive been looking for that car for quite a while. Famine's 2nd hand PAL list doesn't list it, alas. I just downloaded his file again to see if there were updates in it but no.
Does anyone know when to get it or is this yet another car that goes by a different name?

Ive managed to get 200 for Fuji 80's in EU Classics with an AR Giuila Sprint Speciale, N3 195 ballast and NOS. main competition the Etype and the 300SL. All that now remains is the missing 70 points on Nurb

AMG.

 

[Fizio]

I don't know is there any NTSC - PAL difference for this car. I have a PAL version of the game.

I just bought it under Nissan - Legendary cars for 320K Cr.

 

[AMG.]

I don't know is there any NTSC - PAL difference for this car. I have a PAL version of the game.

I just bought it under Nissan - Legendary cars for 320K Cr.

A shoot, never thought of checking (new) legendaries, thx Fizio!!
AMG.