2011 Australian Grand Prix

[F1 fan]

What makes you say that?

He also said the pirelli's are crap. I wouldn't take too much notice. The DRS parameters will be adjusted after a few races. No one can expect them to get it perfect first time.

 

[astrosdude91]

Who on Earth are you talking about?

Well, if you were watching SPEED coverage commercials, you would obviously know.

 

[Terronium-12]

Well, if you were watching SPEED coverage commercials, you would obviously know.

You got me there. I definitely turned away.

EDIT: Why is this dude mispronouncing Vitaly's name? He's saying it as if he's just putting a 'V' in front of 'Italy' instead of Vi-tally.

Or, am I the one mispronouncing his name?

 

[Mike Rotch]

I think DRS will be more effective when it leads to a turn that lends itself to overtaking. Around Hungary and Monaco it will be hopeless.

Webber had a short interview with Aussie TV - sounded completely mentally beaten. Said he pulled over because he was 'disappointed with his race'.

Stupid 🤬 coverage! Cut Petrov's interview after like 10 seconds!

Also its "Melb-in".

 

[Crash]

Edit: That Alex guy on the basketball team is such a douche.

You watching those ads too? I saw snippets of that values website ad earlier and I was wondering what kind of "values" they are pushing. Do you or your family have medical issues that require suing some company? If you do, those ads are for you.

Btw, agreed with your assessment.

 

[Rossticles]

Webber had a short interview with Aussie TV - sounded completely mentally beaten. Said he pulled over because he was 'disappointed with his race'.

Yikes! This better not turn into something of a feud of teammates that Alonso and Hamilton had. That really makes Webber look bad and unsportsmanlike.

 

[ranhammerR34]

Awesome. David Hobbs is going to be in Cars 2 as David Hobbscap.

Congrats to Vettel, big time 👍 to Petrov! Also, good job to the Sauber guys! Kobayashi and Perez!

Though I am wearing a BMW Sauber Shirt that I bought almost five years ago and a Jacques Villeneuve BMW Sauber hat....


Randy

 

[Muzaffar]

Webber just confirmed that his (and I assume Vettel's) car was not running KERS.

Well I think most people would already know that from qualifying.
But the thing I heard from the commentator during the race was really interesting. They said both the Red Bull did have KERS onboard, but because of the way they set the gear ratios on the their car the KERS wouldn't work properly if they tried to use it (the car would redline if they were to use). Interesting to see how fast the Reb Bull cars will be if they were to use KERS as well...

 

[RTSolvalou]

Superb.

Also, the turn was too tight hence why he stopped behind vettel's car.

ps. Good to see that nazi has been kicked off of the forum, we'd all had enough of him.

 

[Akmuq]

DRS zone was in the wrong position. It was after a turn which causes understeer. I don't think the turns before either 1 km straight at Malaysia is understeery so we could get more wheel to wheel stuff.

 

[Terronium-12]

Yikes! This better not turn into something of a feud of teammates that Alonso and Hamilton had. That really makes Webber look bad and unsportsmanlike.

Not really. When you consider what happened last year and how much that rubbed him the wrong way, that's probably still motivating him to some degree. And when you also consider Red Bull being behind Vettel since day one it just makes things worse.

That may not have any relevance to what you've just said, but it's 4 in the morning, give me a break.

EDIT: What Nazi? Who's a Nazi?

 

[Rossticles]

True, but how many times have you seen a driver do what Webber did after the checkered flag if nothing is wrong mechanically with the car. It's 3 in the morning here. I'm not reading much into anything.

ps. Good to see that nazi has been kicked off of the forum, we'd all had enough of him.

I must be too new to know about that.

DRS zone was in the wrong position. It was after a turn which causes understeer. I don't think the turns before either 1 km straight at Malaysia is understeery so we could get more wheel to wheel stuff.

I'm pretty sure according to regulations DRS can only be used on the S/F straight in races.

 

[C-ZETA]

DRS zone was in the wrong position. It was after a turn which causes understeer.

I assume you're taking on board Sutil's spin in Q2 yesterday? He hit the DRS too early there and he was still trying to get out of the corner (because of the understeer) so he spun out.

 

[Omnis]

That DRS barely does anything. I think they'd have to make something actuate on the front wing too for it to work.

 

[RTSolvalou]

I'm happy with the way the race went in terms of tyre wear and the power of KERS and the DRS, I don't think there is any imbalance, but we will get a better idea as the season goes on.

 

[Grayfox]

That DRS barely does anything. I think they'd have to make something actuate on the front wing too for it to work.

DRS does do something, just look at Vettels time at the end of Q3 where you could use it anywhere.

With it just limited to the pit stright the times were 1:27(i think) so 4 seconds or so with use anywhere to use in 1 spot.

My view is remove the DRS or let drivers use it anywhere in dry and pit stright in wet.

 

[Bigbazz]

Was an interesting race, i was happy to see Petrov do well, shows that renault is capable of a lot, though i was surprised at how weak heidfield was. I was hoping for button but i knew when he took that side road to hold position that he would get a drive through.

In general other than Petrov it is close to how i expected, pretty good race, looking forward to the next one.

 

[Akmuq]

I assume you're taking on board Sutil's spin in Q2 yesterday? He hit the DRS too early there and he was still trying to get out of the corner (because of the understeer) so he spun out.

No I was on about why there was only 6 or 7 DRS overtakes today.

 

[Terronium-12]

True, but how many times have you seen a driver do what Webber did after the checkered flag if nothing is wrong mechanically with the car. It's 3 in the morning here. I'm not reading much into anything.

I can't recall such a thing. It could be any number of things really, but I'm going to bet on his performance seemingly going downhill after, what, P2?

That DRS barely does anything. I think they'd have to make something actuate on the front wing too for it to work.

I think you might be over-emphasizing the importance of DRS at the moment, it's essentially a reverse-engineered air brake, and you have to keep in mind that when KERS is factored into it, it does indeed make a difference. When it's KERS vs. DRS however...the situation is dependent on how close you can get before the upcoming corner...but it seems KERS is fully able to counteract it.

 

[C-ZETA]

I wonder how Codemasters are gonna implement the DRS for F1 2011. The KERS was already in F1 2009 (albeit on EVERY car where as just McLaren and Ferrari were the only teams to really use it, BMW Sauber and Renault tried it as well I think) so that should be a simple procedure to do.

 

[Andy89]

DRS does do something, just look at Vettels time at the end of Q3 where you could use it anywhere.

With it just limited to the pit stright the times were 1:27(i think) so 4 seconds or so with use anywhere to use in 1 spot.

My view is remove the DRS or let drivers use it anywhere in dry and pit stright in wet.

I agree with you 👍 I'm impressed by the RB, they are faster than any other car, and they couldn't use the KERS because of a technical problem, as they said after the race. It scares me, because if they won so easily without the KERS, imagine what they can do with it...

 

[zedextreme8177]

Good form from Petrov, glad to see someone new on the podium:tup:

And Sergio Perez's debut was great IMHO.

HRT needs to do some work on their car before Malaysia.

I agree with you 👍 I'm impressed by the RB, they are faster than any other car, and they couldn't use the KERS because of a technical problem, as they said after the race. It scares me, because if they won so easily without the KERS, imagine what they can do with it...

Apparently, Redbull found an optimum gearing method which actually increased their laptimes compared to using the KERS, not a technical problem.

 

[Grayfox]

I wonder how Codemasters are gonna implement the DRS for F1 2011. The KERS was already in F1 2009 (albeit on EVERY car where as just McLaren and Ferrari were the only teams to really use it, BMW Sauber and Renault tried it as well I think) so that should be a simple procedure to do.

One thing they wont implement is the 107% rule.

The implementation of the DRS will be rather easy you will just need to meet criteria before you can use it.

1: Are you on the DRS usage zone?
2: Are you with in 1 second of rival infront?
3: Is track wet?

Then just make it use a button.

 

[DwightSchrute12]

So who here (on the East coast) will watch the Malaysian GP live at 4am?

I may.

Thankfully here it's only 3 am. Still sucks but I'll do it anyway.

Lewis rolled his eyes after that first question to Vettel.

I love the awkwardness in the post-race interviews. Lewis looked like he was continually trying to find a body part to scratch and Petrov was literally twiddling his thumbs.

You watching those ads too? I saw snippets of that values website ad earlier and I was wondering what kind of "values" they are pushing. Do you or your family have medical issues that require suing some company? If you do, those ads are for you.

Btw, agreed with your assessment.

That Napa ad might have been the worst ad I've ever seen.

Good race, Petrov & Perez were surprisingly great. I'm still baffled on how/why RBR didn't use KERS, but I'm more baffled on how Perez made it with one stop.

 

[Andy89]

Good form from Petrov, glad to see someone new on the podium:tup:

And Sergio Perez's debut was great IMHO.

HRT needs to do some work on their car before Malaysia.



Apparently, Redbull found an optimum gearing method which actually increased their laptimes compared to using the KERS, not a technical problem.

But this is strange to me, because KERS give you a power boost, why don't use it at least in straight? If I understood right, they mounted it on the cars, but didn't use it, right? I can't understand how using it in straights can be a disadvantage

 

[Tonnie073]

Didnt expect petrov to become third, did you see where he parked his car ?

 

[RTSolvalou]

tight turn

 

[zdawood89]

But this is strange to me, because KERS give you a power boost, why don't use it at least in straight? If I understood right, they mounted it on the cars, but didn't use it, right? I can't understand how using it in straights can be a disadvantage

From BBC live commentary

Red Bull team principal Christian Horner: "It's a fantastic day for Sebastian and the team. He was dominant yesterday and totally dominant today. I'm afraid we haven't had Kers on our car all weekend. It didn't look like we needed it. We ran it on Friday, but we felt it was a potential risk. We made a decision with Kers, it's quite a complicated technology and [chief designer] Adrian [Newey] being Adrian, he wouldn't compromise the aerodynamics of the car. It's a very unusual gap, and to see such a big difference between the guys. We need to have a very close look before Malaysia."

From what I can understand from this it appears as though RB would have liked to run KERS but could not. A similar conclusion posts above also claim.

Didnt expect petrov to become third, did you see where he parked his car ?

Yes.

 

[HKS racer]

But this is strange to me, because KERS give you a power boost, why don't use it at least in straight? If I understood right, they mounted it on the cars, but didn't use it, right? I can't understand how using it in straights can be a disadvantage

Maybe they are running with a closer gear ratio and not using KERS to prevent tyre wear during a race. Or they have just a small "fake" kers working only as ballast.

EDIT: the have NO kers at all, once again Newey proved it's a useless tool if you want to win.

 

[NiNo]

Petrov's name should be pronounced like this
http://translate.google.ru/?hl=ru&tab=wT#ru|en|виталий
Well done Виталий !