2012 Moto3/Moto2/MotoGP Thread

[Harley45]

 

[spyrrari]

Great pictures,really hope Vale falls in love with the front of the Ducati this year!!!

Look at those carbon brakes!!amazing!



Spy.

 

[Harley45]

Day One Test Times

Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Prev. Gap Lead. Gap Laps

1 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.657 - - 30

2 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 2:02.003 +0.346 +0.346 48

3 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:02.221 +0.218 +0.564 32

4 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.234 +0.013 +0.577 28

5 Valentino Rossi Ducati Team 2:02.392 +0.158 +0.735 43

6 Andrea Dovizioso Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:02.751 +0.359 +1.094 20

7 Hector Barbera Pramac Racing Team 2:02.773 +0.022 +1.116 41

8 Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha Factory 2:02.829 +0.056 +1.172 32

9 Alvaro Bautista San Carlo Honda Gresini 2:02.869 +0.040 +1.212 45

10 Nicky Hayden Ducati Team 2:03.151 +0.282 +1.494 33

11 Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2:03.668 +0.517 +2.011 44

12 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 2:03.781 +0.113 +2.124 45

13 Franco Bataini Ducati Team 2:04.986 +1.205 +3.329 35

14 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 2:07.163 +2.177 +5.506 4 **

15 Colin Edwards NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:08.240 +1.077 +6.583 21

16 Jordi Torres Avintia Racing 2:10.671 +2.431 +9.014 42

**Stoner Injured his back Stretching , spent most of the day back at the hotel getting a massage .

17 Ivan Silva Avintia Racing 2:11.267 +0.596 +9.610 12

 

[toyotsupra]

GO Lorenzo!

 

[F1 fan]

GO Lorenzo!

Likewise. I'm hoping Yamaha have produced a beast to let him fight with the Hondas.

 

[Tom]

I'm hopeful for Rossi, he seems more on the pace than last year already.

 

[joetruckv8]

Ohh look at those pics, sexy sexy sexy!

Like others I'm ready for the season to begin. Lets see how my american fellas do this year. I'm always worried about Nicky's speed vs dropping the bike (ill be watch Misano most importantly, lol make it through turn 1 man this year), but i'm not worried about Ben Spies as he is a strategic smart rider who calculates his races.

By the way who are these Silva, Torres, and Batini guys and what series did they come from?
I thought Andrea Iannone & Marc Marquez would of got promoted up?

 

[adamp93]

Ohh look at those pics, sexy sexy sexy!

Like others I'm ready for the season to begin. Lets see how my american fellas do this year. I'm always worried about Nicky's speed vs dropping the bike (ill be watch Misano most importantly, lol make it through turn 1 man this year), but i'm not worried about Ben Spies as he is a strategic smart rider who calculates his races.

By the way who are these Silva, Torres, and Batini guys and what series did they come from?
I thought Andrea Iannone & Marc Marquez would of got promoted up?

Marquez chose to stay in moto 2 to win the championship, he is only 18 (or 19). The other guys you mentioned are the crt guys, most of the good guys in moto 2 knew they would be rubbish so it's slim pickings for someone to actually ride the thing. Hope that 9 second gap comes down before april though.

 

[Harley45]

Day 2 Test Times

Pos Rider Team/Bike Time Gap Laps
1. Casey Stoner Honda 2m00.895s 29
2. Ben Spies Yamaha 2m01.052s + 0.157s 37
3. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 2m01.068s + 0.173s 40
4. Dani Pedrosa Honda 2m01.508s + 0.613s 35
5. Cal Crutchlow Tech 3 Yamaha 2m01.565s + 0.670s 42
6. Hector Barbera Pramac Ducati 2m01.788s + 0.893s 50
7. Valentino Rossi Ducati 2m01.886s + 0.991s 44
8. Alvaro Bautista Gresini Honda 2m01.933s + 1.038s 46
9. Andrea Dovizioso Tech 3 Yamaha 2m02.160s + 1.265s 42
10. Nicky Hayden Ducati 2m02.354s + 1.459s 41
11. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m02.414s + 1.519s 41
12. Karel Abraham Cardion Ducati 2m02.598s + 1.703s 66
13. Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha 2m02.941s + 2.046s 40
14. Franco Battaini Ducati 2m04.311s + 3.416s 38
15. Colin Edwards Forward Suter-BMW 2m05.603s + 4.708s 37
16. Ivan Silva Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m10.297s + 9.402s 16
17. Jordi Torres Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m11.893s + 10.998s 2
18. Robertino Pietri Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m12.546s + 11.651s 5

 

[joetruckv8]

Marquez chose to stay in moto 2 to win the championship, he is only 18 (or 19). The other guys you mentioned are the crt guys, most of the good guys in moto 2 knew they would be rubbish so it's slim pickings for someone to actually ride the thing. Hope that 9 second gap comes down before april though.

I not to worried about Marc Marquez, because we all know he will have a seat with Honda (and I'm not talking about LCR, lol), But Andrea needs to qualify better so he can get more race wins. Andrea always makes up a ton of spots, but what good is it if your gridding up mid-pack. There only 600cc so there's not enough power to catch the front runners in time!

But hey you said it,. Stefan Bradl didn't catch the best seat out there with LCR. Even if he does good there going to have to hop him up to Gresini and then factory if he's that good.

Day 2 Test Times

Pos Rider Team/Bike Time Gap Laps
1. Casey Stoner Honda 2m00.895s 29
2. Ben Spies Yamaha 2m01.052s + 0.157s 37
3. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 2m01.068s + 0.173s 40
4. Dani Pedrosa Honda 2m01.508s + 0.613s 35
5. Cal Crutchlow Tech 3 Yamaha 2m01.565s + 0.670s 42
6. Hector Barbera Pramac Ducati 2m01.788s + 0.893s 50
7. Valentino Rossi Ducati 2m01.886s + 0.991s 44
8. Alvaro Bautista Gresini Honda 2m01.933s + 1.038s 46
9. Andrea Dovizioso Tech 3 Yamaha 2m02.160s + 1.265s 42
10. Nicky Hayden Ducati 2m02.354s + 1.459s 41
11. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m02.414s + 1.519s 41
12. Karel Abraham Cardion Ducati 2m02.598s + 1.703s 66
13. Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha 2m02.941s + 2.046s 40
14. Franco Battaini Ducati 2m04.311s + 3.416s 38
15. Colin Edwards Forward Suter-BMW 2m05.603s + 4.708s 37
16. Ivan Silva Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m10.297s + 9.402s 16
17. Jordi Torres Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m11.893s + 10.998s 2
18. Robertino Pietri Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m12.546s + 11.651s 5

Casey Stoner is killing them out of the box alrerady!

 

[F1 fan]

But Andrea needs to qualify better so he can get more race wins. Andrea always makes up a ton of spots, but what good is it if your gridding up mid-pack. There only 600cc so there's not enough power to catch the front runners in time!

Didn't you see Marquez' phenomenal 125cc race win in Portugal in 2010? If the world didn't already know it, that was the point it became clear he was going to be an utter superstar.

 

[killer tiller]

Didn't you see Marquez' phenomenal 125cc race win in Portugal in 2010? If the world didn't already know it, that was the point it became clear he was going to be an utter superstar.

Maybe so but another year in moto2 won't hurt him, he jumps up now and will end up on a crap bike. If he wins the championship he has a better shot at a better bike. He's young, there's no rush, if he really is a superstar he'll get his chance

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Casey Stoner is killing them out of the box alrerady!

Testing times are not representative of anything. Not unless you know the testing programmes of every team, and can account for the differences. What if Stoner was simply doing a qualifying run when he set his fastest time, and Spies only ever did long-distance testing?

 

[joetruckv8]

Testing times are not representative of anything. Not unless you know the testing programmes of every team, and can account for the differences. What if Stoner was simply doing a qualifying run when he set his fastest time, and Spies only ever did long-distance testing?

True there are a lot of specifics, but I was proud to see Ben Spies at the top of the list.

 

[Harley45]

Day 3 as of 17.00 Local Time

Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Prev. Gap Lead. Gap Laps
1 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1:59.607 - - 18
2 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 2:00.198 +0.591 +0.591 35
3 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 2:00.256 +0.058 +0.649 24
4 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 2:00.495 +0.239 +0.888 16
5 Valentino Rossi Ducati Team 2:00.824 +0.329 +1.217 38
6 Hector Barbera Pramac Racing Team 2:00.929 +0.105 +1.322 34
7 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.108 +0.179 +1.501 25
8 Andrea Dovizioso Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.257 +0.149 +1.650 40
9 Alvaro Bautista San Carlo Honda Gresini 2:01.384 +0.127 +1.777 31
10 Nicky Hayden Ducati Team 2:01.729 +0.345 +2.122 19
11 Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2:01.894 +0.165 +2.287 38
12 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 2:02.218 +0.324 +2.611 32
13 Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha Factory 2:02.334 +0.116 +2.727 27
14 Franco Battaini Ducati Team 2:03.033 +0.699 +3.426 34
15 Colin Edwards NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:04.722 +1.689 +5.115 34
16 Ivan Silva Avintia Racing 2:08.225 +3.503 +8.618 38
17 Robertino Pietri Avintia Racing 2:09.640 +1.415 +10.033 16
18 Jordi Torres Avintia Racing 2:10.184 +0.544 +10.577 29

Chucking it down with rain now so Times will probalby stand as there is only 1 hour of Track Time Officially left .

Stoner set his fastest lap in the Morning session on his second lap out .

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I'd like to see some photos of the guys who don't usually get coverage.

 

[Harley45]

I'd like to post a few photos of the "Other Guys" but its down to who takes the pics an where I can borrow em from

 

[Carbonox]

Some of those bikes really look like they're off the pace. The newer F1 teams anyone?

I'm hoping for Iannone to finally win the Moto2 championship, though I fear Marquez would be a very difficult opponent. As for MotoGP (which I follow quite little compared to the more entertaining Moto2), I'm going with Stoner again.

Don't even remember which riders are in Moto3, but Ajo Motorsport is the team I wish to see winning the championship, considering they're Finnish.

 

[F1 fan]

I'm hoping for Iannone to finally win the Moto2 championship, though I fear Marquez would be a very difficult opponent.

Marquez will be near impossible to beat imo. Iannone is great, but he needs to work on qualifying. Marquez is a very mature, complete rider.

 

[Mike Rotch]

Marquez will be near impossible to beat imo. Iannone is great, but he needs to work on qualifying. Marquez is a very mature, complete rider.

Marquez vs Elias this year will be good to watch. Throw in Iannone, Julien Simon and Smith on a competitive bike, and Moto2 will again be what MotoGP isn't.

 

[joetruckv8]

I agree, I like Marc Marquez he is a talent rider that i've been watching since the 125cc class, but I'm rooting for Andrea Iannone, I like his charismatic attitude, and riding style. His goal for this year is to qualify better, but most likely Marc Marquez will graduate after this year, and Andrea Ianonne will have to wait for next year, unless speedup racing introduces there talked about Moto Gp class entry finally?

3 Questions:

#1 Does anyone have to scoop on this I'm guessing new Yamaha factory team
(Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha Factory 2:02.334 +0.116 +2.727 27)?

#2 Poor Toni Elias, does he go back to conquer Moto 2 again, and forever stay there since he's failed twice in the Moto Gp class, or does he just keep hopping back and forth from class to class until he figures out the big bike? I mean will anyone take him even if he dominates the Moto 2 series again?

#3 Who looks back more Toni Alias or Andrea Iannone?

 

[adamp93]

3 Questions:

#1 Does anyone have to scoop on this I'm guessing new Yamaha factory team
(Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha Factory 2:02.334 +0.116 +2.727 27)?

#2 Poor Toni Elias, does he go back to conquer Moto 2 again, and forever stay there since he's failed twice in the Moto Gp class, or does he just keep hopping back and forth from class to class until he figures out the big bike? I mean will anyone take him even if he dominates the Moto 2 series again?

#3 Who looks back more Toni Alias or Andrea Iannone?

2. Elias has always been the guy who could never make the bridgestones work. The only thing left is for him to try superbikes.
3. Probably Elias, especially last year when he was always thinking "are they lapping me yet?" The worst one was Fabien Foret in the super sport. I always thought he would dominate Misano once they started going the other way round.

 

[joetruckv8]

2. Elias has always been the guy who could never make the bridgestones work. The only thing left is for him to try superbikes.
3. Probably Elias, especially last year when he was always thinking "are they lapping me yet?" The worst one was Fabien Foret in the super sport. I always thought he would dominate Misano once they started going the other way round.

Well we will see where he lands next? I rate Toni Elias & Randy DP the same, but randy still has his seat.

Question for you zzxxz:
Who's your favorite rider in both class Moto Gp & Moto 2 ?

 

[adamp93]

Well we will see where he lands next? I rate Toni Elias & Randy DP the same, but randy still has his seat.

Question for you zzxxz:
Who's your favorite rider in both class Moto Gp & Moto 2 ?

I have already said I like Dovi, Spies and Crutchlow in the gp. As for moto 2 I like Simon, Takahashi and the 3 Brits

 

[adamp93]

I've just signed up to a 2012 fantasy league, if anyone wants to create a GTP league let me know!

 

[joetruckv8]

I've just signed up to a 2012 fantasy league, if anyone wants to create a GTP league let me know!

I'll get involved or start one for sure 👍

 

[adamp93]

I'll get involved or start one for sure 👍

Sorry I've not got back to you but I realised the one I joined involves British superbikes as well; you probably wouldn't know much about that.

Anyway, Mrs Stoner had her baby and guess what date? Valentino Rossi's birthday.

 

[Tom]

The 2012 Ducati GP12 has been revealed, and it sure is a looker!

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/3208/Motorcycle-Photo-Gallery/2012-Ducati-Desmosedici-GP12-MotoGP-First-Look.aspx

 

[adamp93]

First day of the first official testis complete.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/177890/1/jerez_motogp_test_times_-_friday_final.html
and lets have some more 2012 bike pics/videos:
Factory M1
http://www.crash.net/motogp/video/177879/1/first_look_at_2012_factory_yzr-m1.html
Tech-3 M1
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s...ar2212-crutchlow-shows-off-new-tech-3-livery/
Colin Edwards' CRT bike (now this I like)
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s...ar2112-edwards-unveils-forward-racing-livery/

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I really like the Blusens/Avintia Racing liveries:

Almost as much as I liked their matte black interim test livery.