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If you did hit someone on purpose why the hell would you then own up to it in front of your boss' and the team mate you just hit?! Especially when no one had really accused him of it, it looked like a genuine mistake by Rosberg.
A :censored:storm is coming his way and he deserves it.
A :censored:storm is coming his way and he deserves it.
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This will only fuel the conspiracy that the team is showing favoritism towards Rosberg.
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Going by that, Rosberg didn't deliberately crash. Hamilton's comments sound like a case of small man syndrome.
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I think its more I could've took more evasive action. Sometimes you have to not be so nice. Lewis has put his car to where Jenson has had to take action and yield. Happens quite a lot that you have to make sure other drivers don't see you as a pushover.
Lewis has won the wheel to wheel battles with Nico previously.
Lewis has won the wheel to wheel battles with Nico previously.
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I think it's starting to sound like Rosberg pulled/attempted a Senna of sorts 
Lewis could always join another team for the remainder of the season. He could still stay in the WDC and make it a big F:censored:-U to Merc...would be hilarious to see.
Lewis could always join another team for the remainder of the season. He could still stay in the WDC and make it a big F:censored:-U to Merc...would be hilarious to see.
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There's a good way of doing that, which is to fight fairly on track and win. And then there's Nico, who basically admitted that he's willing to damage both cars and possibly have the team take no points, just to say he's no pushover.
Kind of proves Lewis absolutely, has better race craft and judgement than Nico, which I think many thought that anyways(including myself).
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Rosberg basically admitted he used judgment contrary to what he would've done against any other competitor. In other words, he knew that the end result may be detrimental to him and/or Hamilton but proceeded anyways. Should've been a "Causing a Collision" violation but he'll get away scot-free from this, though.
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Observing Hamilton's racing over the years I'd say you have to take it as either a racing incident or Hamilton's fault. And no, @TenEightyOne , I'm not trolling.
For how long does one have to avoid accidents and play the nice guy? To make matters worse, Hamilton literally said that he's driving for himself at Hungary and not only did he get away with it, the management gave him approval for it in the media. Seriously, year and a half of being a good team player and THAT's the team's response? I know it's just PR (like what Williams did with Massa/Bottas) but to hear your teammate proudly say he's driving for himself is worthy of an ass kicking tbh.
To say that it's Nico's fault is saying that Hamilton wouldn't have done the same, and that's without taking into account how many times Nico's been too nice on the track with him this year. I'm willing to bet all I have that had the situation been reversed, Hamilton would've taken out Rosberg from the first attempt. At least Rosberg backed off the first time then cut back in a second time. Look at what he did to Rosberg at Bahrain at turn 2, then later that race and even at the end of Hungary. He's the kind of driver that if he's at the front, he thinks he's entitled to the racing line, and when he's at the back he thinks he's entitled to some space. I think I said this before. Just look at his 9000 collisions with Massa in 2011, and pretty much his entire career. That has almost always been the case with him. Typical scumbag driver.
Was it clumsy? No, I didn't buy that for a second and I'm glad Nico admitted that he didn't avoid the accident to prove a point. He did what the likes of Senna are called legendary for, leaving it up to the other guy to decide if they're going to crash. Hamilton did worse at Austria (not just the one with Button) but luckily nobody got a puncture, nobody said a damn thing. Alonso did a "clumsier" move today on Vettel and lost half of his front wing. Why isn't anybody talking about that?
Enough with that anyway. I wasn't bothered by it until I heard the booes and saw the reactions online. You have the right to boo whoever you want whenever you want, but at least do it without being a hypocrite.
Summary:
Nico: What he did is justified, even if it's on purpose. The team undermined his sportsmanship and being a teamplayer at Hungary, it was time to show them that won't take any more ****. The piece of debris hindered his stint a bit but he could've won had it not been for a few other mistakes from him.
Alonso: Got pushed unfairly by Magnussen at the endless right turn, and pushed completely off again at the kemmel straight. Felt sorry for him until his silly move with Vettel.
Magnussen: Harsh penalty, unexpected given how nice the FIA have been recently. Still, he was overly aggressive.
Ricciardo: Wanted to see if he'll crack under pressure at the end, he didn't. Well done.
Wanted to see how Hulkenberg and others made ground but I don't think it was on the feed.
Drivers of the day are Vettel, Bottas and Button.
Driver of the day: Kimi. How many laps did he make the tyres last at the end?
For how long does one have to avoid accidents and play the nice guy? To make matters worse, Hamilton literally said that he's driving for himself at Hungary and not only did he get away with it, the management gave him approval for it in the media. Seriously, year and a half of being a good team player and THAT's the team's response? I know it's just PR (like what Williams did with Massa/Bottas) but to hear your teammate proudly say he's driving for himself is worthy of an ass kicking tbh.
To say that it's Nico's fault is saying that Hamilton wouldn't have done the same, and that's without taking into account how many times Nico's been too nice on the track with him this year. I'm willing to bet all I have that had the situation been reversed, Hamilton would've taken out Rosberg from the first attempt. At least Rosberg backed off the first time then cut back in a second time. Look at what he did to Rosberg at Bahrain at turn 2, then later that race and even at the end of Hungary. He's the kind of driver that if he's at the front, he thinks he's entitled to the racing line, and when he's at the back he thinks he's entitled to some space. I think I said this before. Just look at his 9000 collisions with Massa in 2011, and pretty much his entire career. That has almost always been the case with him. Typical scumbag driver.
Was it clumsy? No, I didn't buy that for a second and I'm glad Nico admitted that he didn't avoid the accident to prove a point. He did what the likes of Senna are called legendary for, leaving it up to the other guy to decide if they're going to crash. Hamilton did worse at Austria (not just the one with Button) but luckily nobody got a puncture, nobody said a damn thing. Alonso did a "clumsier" move today on Vettel and lost half of his front wing. Why isn't anybody talking about that?
Enough with that anyway. I wasn't bothered by it until I heard the booes and saw the reactions online. You have the right to boo whoever you want whenever you want, but at least do it without being a hypocrite.
Summary:
Nico: What he did is justified, even if it's on purpose. The team undermined his sportsmanship and being a teamplayer at Hungary, it was time to show them that won't take any more ****. The piece of debris hindered his stint a bit but he could've won had it not been for a few other mistakes from him.
Alonso: Got pushed unfairly by Magnussen at the endless right turn, and pushed completely off again at the kemmel straight. Felt sorry for him until his silly move with Vettel.
Magnussen: Harsh penalty, unexpected given how nice the FIA have been recently. Still, he was overly aggressive.
Ricciardo: Wanted to see if he'll crack under pressure at the end, he didn't. Well done.
Wanted to see how Hulkenberg and others made ground but I don't think it was on the feed.
Driver of the day: Kimi. How many laps did he make the tyres last at the end?
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Troll. TROLL!!! (Points and waits for mods!!!!)
You put your point well (not a hallmark of a troll) but I disagree on the point of any driver being justified in making deliberate contact with the tyre of any other driver at speed (we were lucky not to see another plane-crash-style flip) but I don't see the situation as unexpected and I think Rosberg is on the back foot.
I wonder if Hamilton is actually being deliberately reserved and downcast at times then being super-aggressive on track, rather than meet Rosberg in a psych-out he's giving Rosberg enough rope to hang himself. One of them has already won a World Championship against the odds, the other is still trying. Over-trying today, I thought.
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OHHHH yeah. Sorry about that, forgot he was in the race. I knew I forgot someone. I'll edit. He drove a better race than the 3 I mentioned.
I don't see it as deliberate contact. He cut back in a first time to let Hamilton know he's close, and left it up to Hamilton to leave space for another one. Hamilton didn't leave space to his TEAMMATE, so no, not deliberate.Troll. TROLL!!! (Points and waits for mods!!!!)
You put your point well (not a hallmark of a troll) but I disagree on the point of any driver being justified in making deliberate contact with the tyre of any other driver at speed (we were lucky not to see another plane-crash-style flip) but I don't see the situation as unexpected and I think Rosberg is on the back foot.
I wonder if Hamilton is actually being deliberately reserved and downcast at times then being super-aggressive on track, rather than meet Rosberg in a psych-out he's giving Rosberg enough rope to hang himself. One of them has already won a World Championship against the odds, the other is still trying. Over-trying today, I though.
And no not really, he's an ahole on the track regardless. Mind games or not, reserved off-track or not.
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Is the ahole word allowed here? It's not censored.
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"Well Natalie, as we've seen from everyone in the world including the Mercedes team and both of the drivers, it's just about unanimous that Nico Rosberg's actions today put Lewis Hamilton out of the race and changed a potential 1-2 finish into a 2nd and a DNF."
"Yes Ted, but now I've got someone who blindly and unreservedly hates Lewis Hamilton. Let's see what he has to say."
"Yes Ted, but now I've got someone who blindly and unreservedly hates Lewis Hamilton. Let's see what he has to say."
"Thank you Natalie."
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Um, I didn't exactly blame him. I'm saying that those who are saying it's Nico's fault and not a racing incident, are the same people that support Hamilton when the situation is reversed. So using their logic, it should be Hamilton's fault.
BTW I'm not sure if I said this before, I don't really hate Hamilton, just the majority of his fans based on how they react. Kind of twilight or Justin Bieber or whatever.
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Not really. Rosberg did exactly what Maldonado did back in Valencia 2012. I don't remember Maldonado having too many supporters that day.
In fact, both drivers did exactly what they did at Bahrain, but this time Rosberg left his car there instead of backing out. I guess he was proving the point that he wasn't going to back out again.
So, Rosberg said he did it, Mercedes say he did it and you say it's a racing incident or Hamilton's fault.
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I'll have to look at it again but I remeber thinking it wasn't Maldonado's fault. That's the one where Maldonado had full lock trying to avoid the accident and Hamilton threw the steering wheel away after, right?
It wasn't like Bahrain, back then it was much worse. Rosberg was ahead and he didn't "back out", he simply turned away quick enough to avoid a MAJOR accident. Would've looked like the Gutierrez one otherwise. At Bahrain it was clearly Hamilton's fault, and it wasn't just my opinion.
At this race, what do you mean by "did it"? Did what? Cause the accident? No, only Lauda and Hamilton said that. Rosberg said he didn't avoid it on purpose, and Wolff agrees.
Not avoiding an accident (in other words leaving it up to the other driver) != causing an accident deliberately. Let's get that one clear.
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Good to see Kimi is still able to curse on live and recorded TV and get completely away with it.
Good to see Hamilton is facing yet another teammate who doesn't give two squirts about him. Must say a lot about his attitude to his fellow drivers when all of them have felt that way about him. So, Hamilton's fault? Not for the racing incident, but for being a douchebag to his fellow team mates off the field.
Karma is a bitch, Hamilton. Wise up. Quit being a huge douchebag to your fellow drivers. Maybe, they'll start defending you instead of being driven to beat you're douchbag-ass out on the course.
Good to see Hamilton is facing yet another teammate who doesn't give two squirts about him. Must say a lot about his attitude to his fellow drivers when all of them have felt that way about him. So, Hamilton's fault? Not for the racing incident, but for being a douchebag to his fellow team mates off the field.
Karma is a bitch, Hamilton. Wise up. Quit being a huge douchebag to your fellow drivers. Maybe, they'll start defending you instead of being driven to beat you're douchbag-ass out on the course.
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Who was the last nice guy to take a World Championship? I'm struggling to remember...
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