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2014 engines: inline-fours out, turbo-charged V6 engines in
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An Autosport article giving many reasons why the sound isn't completely accurate.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109133?source=mostpopular
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109133?source=mostpopular
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I don't mind that sound too much. It sounds unique from other race engines.
I'm sure we'll all come around to it eventually as we have with the V8s. But I can see quite a few turbos blowing next year though whilst they try to get the reliability spot on.
I'm sure we'll all come around to it eventually as we have with the V8s. But I can see quite a few turbos blowing next year though whilst they try to get the reliability spot on.
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All that sound lacked was the exhaust note. That sound and the exhaust note sound the Lotus cars made off-throttle with the reverse exhausts a few year back will sound fantastic. 👍
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Out of all things they could fix to be constant for the season gear ratios seem to be a really stupid one. Top speeds vary considerably between tracks so you will end up possibly meaning on fast tracks they are revving the engines very high and thus damaging more components and thus negating the cost saving of not having different gears you can swap in and out of the gearbox.
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I don't see why...the companies building these engines have plenty of experience with turbos and this isn't the 80s when it was quite new to the racing world. Engines should be fine...
^ This, if a team sets up a gearbox too low they may have issues at the power tracks. Does the FIA not have any engineers over there on the decision group? Or do they just throw darts at a board with inane ideas and which ever is hit the most gets picked up and put into the regs for the following year...
Also I think teams will set up different ratios between cars...
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Goodbye F1, you've officially now gone down the route of spec-racing and totally lost what made you interesting from a technology perspective.
I'll stick to touring cars and sports cars now, where despite heavy restrictions, there is at least somewhat of an open formula and bigger differences between the cars and teams.
I'll still watch F1..but since the start of this year its not really been my favoured motorsport series anymore.
I'll stick to touring cars and sports cars now, where despite heavy restrictions, there is at least somewhat of an open formula and bigger differences between the cars and teams.
I'll still watch F1..but since the start of this year its not really been my favoured motorsport series anymore.
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This is how I feel. Look at the cars in the 70's.
They looked so different from each other that it was as much about the cars as it was the drivers.
Today the cars are so identical that R&D is being wasted into shaving of thousandths of a second instead of trying to develop new technology that would actually help a car win.
Having fixed gear ratios is such an ABSURD IDEA. Whoever thought of this idea has no grasp on what F1 is about. But then again the whole sport is becoming like this.
There needs to be a real series again where teams actually have to use their own innovations to get ahead. Racing could be so much better..
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I gave up on F1 a few seasons back. In my opinion it doesn't deserve the amount of recognition it has. Take me back to the 70's /80's please!
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I usually only watch F1 on BBC iPlayer now if there's nothing else on.
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this happens eventually.
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Well KERS won't work the same way as it does now, it will be used automatically throughout the lap rather than the driver pushing a button so that will make overtakes harder to. There will be bigger differences between the engines though and when cars are fuel saving towards the end of a race because fuel conservation will be more important they will have to back off when in top gear which will help others overtake.
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No there will be two types. One that does indeed go throughout the lap to boost engine power and another where the driver has 161 I think BHP available to use for 33 seconds a lap.
As for the ratios thing. I am also not a fan. Although they will be allowed to change them once in a season but after that they can't change them back.
Rule 9.6.2: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...d_on_20.07.pdf
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Whoever within the FIA came up with this fixed gear ratios regulation deserves a good slap, as far as I'm concerned; from what I can see it's going to result in many more gearbox failures, and/or many more financial difficulties for some teams.
To remain competitive at most circuits most teams will probably find a fairly decent midway with the gear settings; this midway will probably suit the ever more frequent Tilkedromes just fine, but result in a lot of rev-limiter riding at the less and less common high-speed tracks; such as Monza, and Spa (there are a few others also, but those two are the most commonly accepted examples).
Because this sort of circuit is the increasing minority, the top-teams won't particularly mind sacrificing a gearbox or two, to remain as competitive as possible everywhere else. But for the smaller and less-well-funded teams, it's a lose/lose situation.
If they don't risk it they've got no chance of recording decent results, and moving up the order (therefore decreasing sponsor interest, and decreasing their income). If they do risk it however they could well end up losing money they desperately need, on replacing destroyed gearboxes. Ironic really, for a regulation that is supposed to cut-costs!
To remain competitive at most circuits most teams will probably find a fairly decent midway with the gear settings; this midway will probably suit the ever more frequent Tilkedromes just fine, but result in a lot of rev-limiter riding at the less and less common high-speed tracks; such as Monza, and Spa (there are a few others also, but those two are the most commonly accepted examples).
Because this sort of circuit is the increasing minority, the top-teams won't particularly mind sacrificing a gearbox or two, to remain as competitive as possible everywhere else. But for the smaller and less-well-funded teams, it's a lose/lose situation.
If they don't risk it they've got no chance of recording decent results, and moving up the order (therefore decreasing sponsor interest, and decreasing their income). If they do risk it however they could well end up losing money they desperately need, on replacing destroyed gearboxes. Ironic really, for a regulation that is supposed to cut-costs!
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I believe the first pre-season test is at Bahrain.
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Not sure how engines are the demise...
Transmission set up is the asinine part that may cause demise to F1 if not changed after it's one season.
Transmission set up is the asinine part that may cause demise to F1 if not changed after it's one season.
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I really hate how close F1 is to a spec series now. Won't be long until the only difference between cars is the driver and the badge on the front...
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I don't see how.
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