2014 NASCAR Thread

[MustangRyan]

Fox Sports put up a few old pictures from New Hampshire for Throwback Thursday. The first picture has probably two of the best looking cars from the '90s: The black/gold MGD #2 and the black/orange Texaco/Havoline #28. This was also Davey Allison's last race, as he died in a helicopter crash at Talladega the day after the first Winston Cup race was held at New Hampshire.

 

[meek]

A few changes in the New Hampshire entry list:

- #44 Yeley has withdrawn

- #75 Clay Rogers (Chevrolet) was a late entry but has also withdrawn

- Mike Bliss is a post entry -will race but won't score owner points- in the #93 Toyota, a 4th BK Racing car. Start and park again (I think he did at Kentucky) ?

- Timmy Hill, not Nemechek, is in the #87 Toyota

Still 43 drivers entered, qualifier starts in two hours...

 

[RACECAR]

Ah, the final NASCAR race on TNT is upon us.

 

[GTPorsche]

Then it's the remainder of the season with ESPN/ABC.

 

[Johnny1996]

I can't wait for NBC to take over. Sad that we won't get to hear Benny Parsons's voice anymore.

 

[RACECAR]

2015 will be so good purely because the TV coverage will be much simpler on only two families of networks (Fox/FS1 and NBC/NBCSN).

I can't wait for NBC to take over. Sad that we won't get to hear Benny Parsons's voice anymore.

What do you mean "Anymore?"

 

[Ganon83]

If Davey Allison had lived there is no way Earnhardt has 7 championships.

 

[Jahgee]

2015 will be so good purely because the TV coverage will be much simpler on only two families of networks (Fox/FS1 and NBC/NBCSN).



What do you mean "Anymore?"

Because he's dead

 

[Johnny1996]

BP is up there with the greats. Guys like Bobby Hamilton, Dale Earnhardt, Ayrton Senna, Eric Medlen just to name a few. Some were gone way too soon such as Medlen, others gone much later. You're only on the planet for as long as the lord allows, and when its time to go, you go. You don't really have a choice.

 

[RACECAR]

Because he's dead

That's why I ask. We haven't heard his voice since 2008 (or 2007?) so I found it odd that he says "Anymore", which makes it seem like we've heard him recently.

 

[Carbonox]

Youtube's got plenty of ol' races starring BP, let's just be grateful we at least got those.

 

[MustangRyan]

If Davey Allison had lived there is no way Earnhardt has 7 championships.

He might also have chipped into Jeff Gordon's total, and would definitely have had a huge effect on the career of Dale Jarrett.

 

[RVDNuT374]

2015 will be so good purely because the TV coverage will be much simpler on only two families of networks (Fox/FS1 and NBC/NBCSN).



What do you mean "Anymore?"

But this new TV deal means we have to listen to the "Hillbilly Twins" for 6 more races, unless one or both of them retire. In current NASCAR news, Kyle "istillcantbeatcupguys" Busch won the pole for Sunday's race.

 

[GTPorsche]

As if we didn't have to listen to Larry MacReynolds for an extree 6 races.

 

[RACECAR]

But this new TV deal means we have to listen to the "Hillbilly Twins" for 6 more races, unless one or both of them retire.

You mean the same two that have been there since the beginning of Fox's coverage? I'm fine with them being there instead of Adam Alexander and Mr Incredible. Also as GTPorsche pointed out, what'll be so different from Us listening to Larry Mcreynolds when the coverage went to TNT?

 

[GTPorsche]

And there's Timothy Peters acting like a complete tool again.

 

[Cale]

Ugh the stream I was watching got shut down, and HGTV is playing on racefansonlytv.com...

 

[AnthonyD1993]

Timothy should be hoping that Chad Little doesn't summon him. That was completely uncalled for.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

If Davey Allison had lived there is no way Earnhardt has 7 championships.

I don't know if I'd go that far, he was great but Earnhardt had won his last championship the next year after his death. You make it sound as if he lived Dale wouldn't have come close to seven like much less than that. Too bad most of those 7 were one when the guy was alive.

 

[RACECAR]

Where the hell did this even from? Just seemed out of the clear blue when we were talking about the 2015 coverage.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Where the hell did this even from? Just seemed out of the clear blue when we were talking about the 2015 coverage.

It's on this page, if you haven't noticed not sure why you didn't say it was out of the blue when Ganon posted.

 

[RACECAR]

That's what I was talking about: One minute we're talking about the 2015 coverage and boom, he posts...that. I don't see it on this page, maybe your page setup is different from mine.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

That's what I was talking about: One minute we're talking about the 2015 coverage and boom, he posts...that. I don't see it on this page, maybe your page setup is different from mine.

Probably unless your on a mobile device right now.

 

[Dolph Drago]

Ganon was just going back to MustanRyan's post on the previous page.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Ganon was just going back to MustanRyan's post on the previous page.

The throw back Thursday picture from Fox

 

[GTPorsche]

Blaney has the chance to stop the Toyota streak.

Edit: That didn't last long.

 

[AnthonyD1993]

Toyota is still undefeated in NCWTS this year. They had to earn this one though because Blaney about ran him down. Congrats Erik Jones for winning. 7 of the 9 races have been won by Kyle Busch's team.

 

[Ganon83]

I don't know if I'd go that far, he was great but Earnhardt had won his last championship the next year after his death. You make it sound as if he lived Dale wouldn't have come close to seven like much less than that. Too bad most of those 7 were one when the guy was alive.

Honestly, and this is in no way disrespecting Earnhardt for being the great driver he was, but he got lucky quite a lot in the 80's-early 90's-
Tim Richmond- Forced into early retirement after winning 7 races in 1986 (Only 29 races in a season too, which is even more impressive) and 2 out of 8 in 1987 due to AIDS, dead by 1989
Neil Bonnett- Retired due to head injury. Ill advised comeback ends in death in early 1994.
Alan Kulwicki- Didn't take an offer to drive for a better team. Wins the championship anyway but dies less than 6 months later.
Davey Allison- Already mentioned.
Ernie Irvan- Horrible crash at Michigan sidelines him while leading the points, with Earnhardt in 2nd by a very healthy margin.
Mark Martin- Only the second driver in history to lose a championship due to a points penalty that occurred earlier in the season (Would of won by 26 points, losses to Earnhardt by 14).
If two of these things don't happen, he'd only have 5 at most. Would he still be a Hall of Famer? Absolutely. First Class? Maybe not. Too many variables.


EDIT: And if anyone were wondering, the only other driver to lose a championship thanks to a penalty was Lee Petty in 1950. Petty lost all of his points during that summer thanks to racing in a non-NASCAR event. Many others such as Curtis Turner and Red Byron had their points taken away due to this as well. In fact, if I remember right, the eventual champion, Bill Rexford, would of finished like 4th in the final standings and only won it anyway thanks to Fireball Roberts blowing up his engine in the final race of the season. Fireball could of won the championship if he had just finished, but the winner's share ($1,500) was worth more than the champion's share ($1,000), so he went for it all and over taxed the engine.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Honestly, and this is in no way disrespecting Earnhardt for being the great driver he was, but he got lucky quite a lot in the 80's-early 90's-
Tim Richmond- Forced into early retirement after winning 7 races in 1986 (Only 29 races in a season too, which is even more impressive) and 2 out of 8 in 1987 due to AIDS, dead by 1989
Neil Bonnett- Retired due to head injury. Ill advised comeback ends in death in early 1994.
Alan Kulwicki- Didn't take an offer to drive for a better team. Wins the championship anyway but dies less than 6 months later.
Davey Allison- Already mentioned.
Ernie Irvan- Horrible crash at Michigan sidelines him while leading the points, with Earnhardt in 2nd by a very healthy margin.
Mark Martin- Only the second driver in history to lose a championship due to a points penalty that occurred earlier in the season (Would of won by 26 points, losses to Earnhardt by 14).
If two of these things don't happen, he'd only have 5 at most. Would he still be a Hall of Famer? Absolutely. First Class? Maybe not. Too many variables.


EDIT: And if anyone were wondering, the only other driver to lose a championship thanks to a penalty was Lee Petty in 1950. Petty lost all of his points during that summer thanks to racing in a non-NASCAR event. Many others such as Curtis Turner and Red Byron had their points taken away due to this as well. In fact, if I remember right, the eventual champion, Bill Rexford, would of finished like 4th in the final standings and only won it anyway thanks to Fireball Roberts blowing up his engine in the final race of the season. Fireball could of won the championship if he had just finished, but the winner's share ($1,500) was worth more than the champion's share ($1,000), so he went for it all and over taxed the engine.

I wouldn't disagree there were many things that went well for him but he was as good as those guys, and more so because he was willing to do anything to win. I was going to bring up Kulwicki and Martin though since the former was good and could have done better if he did switch and didn't die in the the plane crash sadly. Either way history worked out different.

 

[Müle]

but the winner's share ($1,500) was worth more than the champion's share ($1,000)

This is how it needs to be again if Nascar really wants drivers to race for the win.