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2014 Rolex Australian Grand Prix
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Why do I get the feeling that many of you would still call Hamilton the best driver ever if he won by default?
Yes, I do think Rosberg is up there with Alonso as the most complete drivers. However I don't get emotional over it, it just bothers me that many of you are blindly praising Hamilton. It used to upset me in the Mclaren days, even. It has nothing to do with Rosberg. I give Hamilton credit when credit's due, like in Hungary last year.
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The thing with prototype engines as that "full power" is a milli-bhp before the engine explodes. It's a judgement call by the teams as to how close to that limit they can run.
Also, Alonso tends to brake quite hard, late and straight and then suddenly throw the car across the apex while screaming in Spanish.
Raikkonen seems to trail the brake a bit, turn in more smoothly (but firmly) and accelerate out more gently, giving himself room to be smooth on the power. He says four words during the whole race, unless the team forget the rules and try to talk to him.
Overall I think this car isn't consistent on the brakes, Alonso's style isn't compromised, he's not moving laterally while deccelarating, just standing on the pedal. Raikkonen needs the car to brake consistently and predictably into a hard curve but the back just doesn't seem to be talking to him.
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I know both these things. I'm just saying at least in qualifying I'd hope they hit redline (which by the looks of it today, they did).
Heard a quote in this Drive video from Fernando saying quali is where the fastest will show themselves. When you think about it, it's a redundant statement in its own right, but in this context it has a bit more meaning since the who point of these regs is to limit time on the, well, limit.
Don't want to derail to much by brining up a much more general discussion, but this video is still quite relevant:
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Check the Australian Grand Prix FB page.
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Did Nico higher you between Quali and the Race to be his PR rep on forums? Also how does it mean nothing, I know personally that you don't like Hamilton and all one needs to do is watch and see that Hamilton was consistently knocking down a few tenths off others laps. He drove the car on the limit and did it very well and was rewarded it gets a bit old that you try to take away from him. It's about as annoying as people trying to make there excuse for Vettel and how he probably would have been up there with DR, yet they don't explain his faults all weekend long and getting beat by his young teammate.
I said he is still a rain master because there is plenty of footage from Quali and over the years that proves this so...
And their it is the double standard, that those who praise him can't possibly be doing so out of his own merit but blind dogma fandom. Then you go on to say that those doing so are using emotion to judge rather than reason, yet (the double standard here) is that you yourself use emotion because it angers and annoys you rather than any real rational thought to explain why they're wrong.
Also one time out of the many times he showed it over last year is a bit trivial and really just being used at that point to save face.
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I thought the Red Bull excuse for Vettel not making Q3 was that his engine was running a different software mapping compared to Ricciardo. Not sure if that's completely accurate, as Red Bull probably wouldn't want to admit to any faults with Vettel or his car.
Vettel does seem to be very uncomfortable with the new car though. Can see it in his body language.
Vettel does seem to be very uncomfortable with the new car though. Can see it in his body language.
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He actually yells "This is SPARTA!" in Spanish every time he apexs a corner.
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Well when a drive is jolting around in a car like I saw Vettel and Grosjean do in the car while they were in a cool down lap you know they're quite pissed off with it all. I mean like throwing there head back or shaking the in disbelief (Grosjean). And though it may have been a mapping issue that just up and appeared he wasn't faster than Daniel in Q1 nor was he in FP1 and FP3, they were even for a bit in FP2. However, Sebastian could not pull off a string of consecutive equal laps and rather seemed to be going for practice quali laps more so in practice. Daniel has been as consistent as the Merc drivers and Vettel hasn't. I'd like to see if those fans can explain it.
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Hamilton's fault.
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I don't think it's driving style or parts that are holding Räikkönen back. I think it's Räikkönen. Alonso seems to be a whole lot more willing to trust that the car will do what he wants it to do. Räikkönen, on the other hand, looks like he is bracing himself for the car suddenly turning left for no reason.
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That only happens when the red "#2" button is pushed in the other car though, at least that's how it used to work.
Raikkonen does seem unsteady all the way in, all the way through and all the way out. Given that he's usually pretty skilled in driving cars with zero grip I think this has to be more to do with balance, mental or vehicular.
@GTPorsche , Grosjean's really on the cusp of becoming a seriously good driver. Last year he showed incredible control and self-belief, the year before he showed raw speed of blindingly dangerous intensity, if he brings the two together in 2014 I think he could be something very very good. He seems quite modest too, which makes him even harder to like
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Maybe it's too early to suggest this, but I genuinely believe that be the end of the year, Romain Grosjean could be competing for nineteenth position.
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To paraphrase Muzza, "In F1 anything can happen, and usually it'll be Maldonado who does it".
@prisonermonkeys it's possible that to get a win all he'll have to do is finish. Oh, I see what you mean....
@prisonermonkeys it's possible that to get a win all he'll have to do is finish. Oh, I see what you mean....
"Oooooooooooooooooo someone's in troubllllllllle."
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Has there ever been a F1 driver that smiles more than Ricciardo?
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There was some footage broadcast from the garage which showed the RB10 with its sidepods and engine cover off. The Australian broadcast has been showing it a lot because the radiators come from Paul Weel Racing, who are based on the Gold Coast, and that is a big deal to them. But Red Bull are upset because it clearly shows the way they have packaged the car - they have even gone so far as to send a letter to FOM asking them not to show stuff like that. I will bet they have sent a letter to Ten as well, asking them not to give away their technical secrets, even if those secrets have a connection to Australia.
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Starting to rain in some parts of the circuit!
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It's cleared up - the V8 Supercars are having a dry race.
Nice to see McLaughlin streaking away. I wonder how he'd go in a Formula 1car ...
Nice to see McLaughlin streaking away. I wonder how he'd go in a Formula 1car ...
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