2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[Slash]

Apparently, those 500 cars sold in the first 30 seconds in Europe wasn't enough. Apparently, nearly 9,500 attempts were made in those first few moments.

http://blog.americanmuscle.com/ford...=social&utm_campaign=fbpost5302014s550mustang

 

[ProjectWHaT]

I wonder if Richard Hammond was one of them...

 

[Slash]

Probably

 

[Slash]

The new car could weigh as much as 300 lbs more than the outgoing model. Oh boy.

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2014/05/31/will-the-2015-mustang-actually-weigh-more/

 

[Tornado]

It went from svelte, compact and modern Fox body successor to Lardass 1973 homage in only six months!

 

[Slash]

 

[Adamgp]

I'm not surprised.

 

[Slash]

Neither am I really. Just hope I am wrong.

 

[Keef]

Wasn't it supposed to be lighter? I don't see how the IRS would be heavier anyway as half the thing is made of aluminum. Bigger wheels and brakes and hardware I can see, though.

 

[Slash]

There was claims of up to 400lbs lighter.

 

[Zenith]

There was claims of up to 400lbs lighter.

It's almost as if posting claims without proper sources in a thread for a new car is counter-productive.

 

[Slash]

It was a rumor well documented here and on the net. Nothing ever came of it.

 

[Zenith]

It was a rumor well documented here and on the net. Nothing ever came of it.

That's the point. Posting useless information is... Useless.

There are rumors that the 2016 Mustang will bring the return of the 427ci pushrod motor with carburetors.

There are rumors the 2016 Mustang will be available with a GT350 package designed by Carroll Shelby himself and will weigh 3000lbs.

Wow this is easy! If this never comes to fruition I guess I'll just say "oh well it was a rumor! Nothing ever came of it!"

Posting rumors. Just don't. It wastes everyone's time.

 

[Slash]

 

[Adamgp]

The claim came from numerous articles and magazines claiming a weight loss of 200-400lbs over the 2014 Mustang.

 

[YSSMAN]

So, a 3800-3900 lb Mustang GT? Not far off the current Camaro SS, still way below the Challenger R/T.

Still, if the next-generation Camaro downsizes as much as we think with the Alpha chassis, it looks like that's shaping up to be the lightweight champ. The heaviest ATS weighs in at 3461lbs, seems logical to think that the Camaro wouldn't be more than 3600lbs with the LT1.

 

[Slash]

Way too heavy. We need weight to be back around 3,200lbs. And for a long time that was on the heavy end.

 

[YSSMAN]

As much as I'd be okay with a BRZ-sized Mustang, I don't know if the market would be. I'd imagine that GM is studying that possibility very carefully. It honestly all depends on whether or not they do the Code 130R as a production model (rumors still indicate that its a strong possibility). Even then, much of that depends on whether or not the Code would become the Camaro, and Chevrolet would then do a larger SS Coupe to recoup those premium V8 coupe sales.

Of course, Alpha is a very flexible chassis. If the Code doesn't get done, a slightly smaller Camaro on some kind of intermediary Alpha chassis (between the ATS and CTS) would make sense, and probably kick off somewhere around 3500lbs with a turbo I4 or V6.

 

[Slash]

A BRZ sized Mustang would be fantastic as long as they can still stuff the V8 in there to keep purists like me happy.

In fact, that target size could make it the fastest Mustang ever.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

A BRZ sized Mustang with a 450 bhp V8? Where do I sign up to sell my soul?

 

[Slash]

450hp to start.


Who knows how fast an almost 700 horsepower car would be.

And 1200hp track only cars have been built.

And Cobra Jet.


Oh my.

 

[Joey D]

A BRZ size Mustang would be awesome, especially with the turbo I4 in it. It would make a great little weekend toy.

I'm also sort of curious what the Ford Racing tune will do for the I4 in new Mustang. My buddy just installed the Ford Racing tune on is Focus ST and it bumped it up to a little over 350lb.ft. of torque. I have to imagine a bigger engine with more torque out of the box would respond really well to a tune.

 

[Dennisch]

I said it before, I'll say it again.

A small Mustang should be called the Capri. Let the Mustang stay the V8 one, and give the Capri a turbo'd 4 pot with 250-270 hp.

When (if) that happens, I can see GM build a competitive platform for the return of the Manta, and an American cousin.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I said it before, I'll say it again.

A small Mustang should be called the Capri. Let the Mustang stay the V8 one, and give the Capri a turbo'd 4 pot with 250-270 hp.

...yes because let's not change or anything at some point. Also SVO called and said it wasn't a Capri

 

[Dennisch]

I'm just going on current events. The Mustang remains a large heavy car, for European standards. We had that small Capri before. I don't know the sales figures for the BRZ FRS, but if those are positive, why not have a small sports car with a blue badge?

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

I'm just going on current events. The Mustang remains a large heavy car, for European standards. We had that small Capri before. I don't know the sales figures for the BRZ FRS, but if those are positive, why not have a small sports car with a blue badge?

If Ford does that, Mustang would have to become a more premium of a product. Right now, Mustang starts at around $23k, so where will a Capri start? $18k? I just don't think its profitable for Ford to do that. Small cars tend to have smaller margins because they don't necessarily costs that much less to produce than a larger car but have the priced substantially less than their bigger brethens to clearly market the products.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I'm just going on current events. The Mustang remains a large heavy car, for European standards. We had that small Capri before. I don't know the sales figures for the BRZ FRS, but if those are positive, why not have a small sports car with a blue badge?

Because if we actually follow current events Ford just easily sold a ton of cars with ease. I'd say wait until the car is tested with the 2.3L turbo and then let's argue this. I'm currently waiting on a few cars to pick up old arguments.

 

[Dennisch]

I completely forgot how silly cheap the Mustang is for you guys. No way that it will be sold here for less than €20k.

New idea. You guys keep the Mustang. Ford Europe will build the Capri.

 

[Tornado]

If Ford does that, Mustang would have to become a more premium of a product.

Or the Capri could be to justify having the same price. Who says a hypothetical BreezeFrees-sized Capri would need to undercut the BreezeFrees by $7000?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I completely forgot how silly cheap the Mustang is for you guys. No way that it will be sold here for less than €20k.

New idea. You guys keep the Mustang. Ford Europe will build the Capri.

Sounds like you want it more, and western Europe should have slightly more ability to buy them than the U.S. even. I dont see any issue with the current Mustang until reviews flow in to say otherwise.

Also for just sold a ton of them in Europe...is what I meant