2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Volume warning.

Wasn't this posted?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Wasn't this posted?

Not with the mic near the exhaust. It was just uploaded 5 hours ago as of this post.

 

[AudiMan2011]

Around 1800 orders for the new Mustang have been made in the UK and the order book is full until mid 2016.

Shows that there is definitely demand for the Mustang here.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...s-update-prices-specs-and-performance-figures

 

[CodeRedR51]

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/08/ford-mustang-worlds-best-selling-sports-car-official/

 

[catamount39]

Sportscar? I love the Mustang but....sportscar? It's a muscle car that's developed good suspension, but it ain't a sportscar. That's pushing it lol.

 

[The Stig Farmer]

Let's start another argument about what defines a sports car!!

 

[catamount39]

Let's start another argument about what defines a sports car!!

Just saying. Works either way I suppose. Loose terminology, anything with 2-doors and goes fast is a sportscar.

The impolite argument however is that it's still too fat. Not calling something which weighs about 3600-3700lbs a sportscar. xD

 

[Kent]

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/08/ford-mustang-worlds-best-selling-sports-car-official/

Best selling sports car of early 2015. -__-

I really like the new Mustang but saying "best selling sports car" is misleading. That said, Ford is doing really well right now, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a great year for Ford (even the Mustang in particular).

 

[CodeRedR51]

Well it's a 2-door coupe, RWD + manual transmission. I think with todays advancements in technology the "muscle car" doesn't really exist anymore.

 

[catamount39]

Well it's a 2-door coupe, RWD + manual transmission. I think with todays advancements in technology the "muscle car" doesn't really exist anymore.

These reasons make sense to me. 👍 (It's still just a skosh overweight lol)

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Sportscar? I love the Mustang but....sportscar? It's a muscle car that's developed good suspension, but it ain't a sportscar. That's pushing it lol.

No it's not, it's a modern day sportscar. The idea that Muscle cars exist is silly. @R1600Turbo explained perfectly why such things are sportscars, go look up a true Muscle car and compare it. Even the Hellcat that is savage compared to most current cars is a far departure from an actual muscle car.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Sports Coupe is probably the best fit.

You can't really bring a new Mustang alongside a Mazda MX-5 or Porsche Boxster and say they are in the same category.

 

[The Stig Farmer]

Why not?

They are all vaguely 'sporting' cars. One happens to be heavier with a big engine.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I honestly always thought the "sports car" meant more of a car with performance in mind. Lightness never came to me as the only determining factor. Plus, there are plenty of sporty performance cars that weigh not much more or less than the Mustang GT; BMW M3, Camaro SS 1LE, Lexus RC F, Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG, Nissan 370Z, & etc.

 

[05XR8]

 

[TheCracker]

????

 

[05XR8]

????

Sports cars

 

[McLaren]

Sports cars

Race cars =/= Sports cars.

 

[homeforsummer]

And this is why we avoid discussing what constitutes a sports car.

For the record, I've always considered a removable roof and two seats a significant element of a sports car, since cars like the original Corvette, MGBs, Triumph Spitfires, Alfa Duetto Spiders and the like were all two-seat convertibles and all are indisputably sports cars.

As such, I'd generally go along with @Eunos_Cosmo's assertion that the Mustang is a sports coupe. But a coupe is also a car, so it seems fair to call the Mustang a sports car. And weirdly, chopping the roof off it would probably make it less of a sports car for me... which confuses matters further, which is why this discussion can never end well.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

So, now there's this thing called Shelby Ecoboost for 25k $.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

So, now there's this thing called Shelby Ecoboost for 25k $.

That has to be one of the cheapest ways of getting something with the Shelby tag on it, how is this little Ecoboost set up specifications-wise?

 

[YSSMAN]

A bit of context...

$25k for a bunch of Ford Racing parts, some graphic and body enhancements, and Shelby America keeps the parts they remove from your car.

By the time you're out the door for $50k, you could have picked up a GT350, Camaro SS, Corvette, and so on and so on and so on. I can't imagine how Shelby America can make a business case for this other than, "Hey, we're doing something."

 

[Niku Driver HC]

A bit of context...

$25k for a bunch of Ford Racing parts, some graphic and body enhancements, and Shelby America keeps the parts they remove from your car.

By the time you're out the door for $50k, you could have picked up a GT350, Camaro SS, Corvette, and so on and so on and so on. I can't imagine how Shelby America can make a business case for this other than, "Hey, we're doing something."

Ah then, it's a daft deal; you are spending over 24 thousand dollars for a few minor modifications, which will only be good enough to draw a "whopping" 25 additional horsepower from the Ecoboost engine. It only becomes sillier when you realize that you could just slap a new ECU modification and draw as much (if not far more) horsepower from the car for far less of a cost, and then you'd still have spare change to work around the remaining areas of the car. Which can be done by going through Ford Perfomance's catalog of parts, you know, the one where the parts for this particular car come from?

Or, as you said, just go out and buy a GT350 and have an actual V8-powered Mustang for a similar price, which completely defeats the purpose of forcing an Ecoboost owner to spend 25,000 dollars and not even being able to sell the leftover original parts to compensate for those costs. Yep, it is a dumb idea after all, what a rip...

 

[CodeRedR51]

For 35hp and some beauty parts, not worth it.

 

[Adamgp]

So, now there's this thing called Shelby Ecoboost for 25k $.

It's $24k on top of the cost of a stock EB Mustang. Total cost is $50k plus.

No thanks.

 

[05XR8]

But, it will be an "authentic" Shelby product and rare. Trust, someone will pick one up a few years from now and it will be a bargain with those "exclusive" bits already on the car.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

But, it will be an "authentic" Shelby product and rare. Trust, someone will pick one up a few years from now and it will be a bargain with those "exclusive" bits already on the car.

Eh I'm starting to wonder how influential post-Carrol Shelby, Shelby cars will be in resale. To me at this point Shelby is becoming a more run of the mill tuner when it does this stuff and just basically living off the reputation that was built.

 

[JohnBM01]

Earlier today, I was watching MotorWeek and saw the newer Shelby GT350. That is no doubt the meanest-looking Mustang I've ever seen. The GT350R is a bit more bonkers. I still fancy this new Mustang even for someone who loves the classic '60s Mustangs. Oh, and did I mention both machines have horsepower well north of 500 horsepower?

 

[05XR8]

Eh I'm starting to wonder how influential post-Carrol Shelby, Shelby cars will be in resale. To me at this point Shelby is becoming a more run of the mill tuner when it does this stuff and just basically living off the reputation that was built.

Especially, as mentioned, when that raw GT350 has heritage. But, like I typed. The SVO was doomed by Mustang fans- I'd love to have one now. So, an EB with some of those things is a bit rich. This shall be an interesting one.

 

[HELLAFLUSH240SX]

The GT350R is amazing hands down.