2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[CodeRedR51]

Well...it did cross their minds before.

Yeah and they thought better of it.

 

[RocZX]

4 cylinder engine Mustang will likely only be available in Europe

The 2015 Ford Mustang is slated to get a fuel-efficient 2.3-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine, but only for European editions of the pony car,

The four-cylinder engine is not expected to be offered to Mustang buyers in the U.S. The small four-cylinder engine will be offered to European buyers as a more economical, low-emissions alternative to the V8 engine in the Mustang, which is likely to be highly taxed in Europe. European buyers who feel that a Mustang should only have a V8 engine will be offered that as well.

The four-cylinder engine in the European Mustang is based on the turbocharged 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine featured in the 2013 Ford Focus ST.

Engine output is likely to rise from 252 horsepower to 300 hp in 2.3-liter form, according to company insiders.

Edmunds


No new SVO for the US

 

[Zenith]

Yup, us burger chugging Muricans can't possibly care about no fuel economies.

 

[Joey D]

That's disappointing, I would have actually considered a four cylinder Mustang, especially one with a turbo. People are getting some pretty high numbers out of the ST so making power wouldn't be all that hard with some bolt ons and a e-tune.

 

[Fazerfan]

Mustangs would be so high priced here in Finland. Cheapest model without anything would be probably priced like the Camaro (70k euros).

 

[Tornado]

After the recent spat of "well, the car theoretically gets that much fuel mileage" from Ford involving the Ecoboost engines lately, I'm kind of curious whether the four cylinder actually will increase fuel economy over the V6 or if it really is just for tax reasons.

 

[mustangfan663]

After the recent spat of "well, the car theoretically gets that much fuel mileage" from Ford involving the Ecoboost engines lately, I'm kind of curious whether the four cylinder actually will increase fuel economy over the V6 or if it really is just for tax reasons.

The four cylinder ecoboost engine will only be available in Europe. So it doesn't really matter for us.

 

[Dennisch]

4 cylinder engine Mustang will likely only be available in Europe

See, this is something I really don't get. Why would Europe want that 4 pot? Or a 6 pot for that matter? If you buy an American sports car, you buy it for Dat Gas Guzzling V8 Monster Powerhouse, not for the styling, the comfort or the driving pleasure.

 

[Tornado]

The four cylinder ecoboost engine will only be available in Europe. So it doesn't really matter for us.

I know. I'm just spitballing potential reasons for why it won't be available besides "lol 'Murica".

 

[Keef]

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I think the body of this sketch looks good but the front doesn't. They're gonna need some work to improve on the retro-style front end.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Just a rendering.

 

[Joey D]

America May Be Getting The Four-Cylinder Turbo 2015 Ford Mustang After All

Remember this week when reports surfaced that the next Ford Mustang will have an available 2.3-liter four-cylinder turbo engine, but only in Europe? That may not be the case after all. Fans of the Mustang SVO, rejoice!

Road & Track says that they have confirmed that the U.S. will get a turbo four-banger Mustang featuring a larger version of the engine from the Ford Focus ST. That engine should have at least 300 horsepower, making it something of a modern-day successor to the coveted Mustang SVO from the Fox era.

Interestingly, R&T reports that this Ecoboost four won't be the base engine:

Ford precedent shows that in other cars and crossovers offering an EcoBoost mill, it's positioned as a premium upgrade, whether you're talking about the Fusion, the Escape. the Explorer, and so on. And with that in mind, the speculation can get fun. Bet on the base 305-horsepower 3.7-liter V6 sticking around as the lowest-cost entry point for Mustang buyers. That means the EcoBoost is likely to come in at over 300 horsepower, as it's unlikely Ford could otherwise sell Americans on a less powerful four-banger as an "upgrade," despite the attendant benefits related to fuel economy. The V8 will remain the range-topper in the GT, as well it should.
So now we have Edmunds and other outlets saying we won't get the four-banger, and R&T saying we will. Frankly, I'm inclined to go with the latter -- it fits better with the global "One Ford" strategy, and if Ford really does have a potent engine on their hands with this turbo four, why wouldn't they sell it in the Mustang's home country?

Last time, many of you said it's V8 or bust when it comes to the 'Stang. Does this change your mind at all? I'm not saying it's the one I would buy if I were in the market for one, but a light, powerful, tuner-friendly Mustang sounds like it could be a lot of fun to me.

Looks like the US might be getting the turbo 4 after all. If we do I would strongly consider one for my next car, especially if it puts out 300hp or more with a double-clutch gearbox. Getting more power out of it would be simple too, with an electronic tune and your basic intake, header, exhaust combo I wouldn't be surprised if you could get it upwards of 375hp given how the Focus ST takes to mods.

Although if the car is stupidly heavy there will be no point.

At the end of the day Ford will satisfy both groups, the small engine turbo crowd and those who want V8's. I'm sure a GT500 or one of the bazillion special editions of the Mustang will have a forced induction V8 too, an EcoBoost V8 would be pretty epic.

 

[YSSMAN]

A turbo four option in the Mustang will be more than worthwhile assuming that the car is downsized enough as the rumors are suggesting. Might not be bad if the weight goes to 3400lbs or so. And my guess is that, if Ford does it, that means GM will need to do it too.

 

[Slash]

I posted that rendering quite a while back.


I still think this car could get shaved down to 3100lbs or less like it was in the '60s. That would be nice. Imagine a 700hp GT500 then....

Here's hoping the GT500's power gets boosted to around that. The Super Snake would obviously be even more potent. Provided they get this body design right, this could be the fastest generation of Mustangs ever built.

 

[Keef]

Although if the car is stupidly heavy there will be no point.

I'd expect the IRS to be slightly lighter than the live axle setup. Currently the entire axle housing and control arms are all iron or steel whereas the IRS will toss the heavy axle housing altogether and possibly use aluminum control arms instead. Certain parts may be build heavier, yeah, but much of the steel will be gone.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

This looks like a freaking businessman's car. Where did old Mustang go? I guess Ford wants sales to go down.

 

[Joey D]

A turbo four option in the Mustang will be more than worthwhile assuming that the car is downsized enough as the rumors are suggesting. Might not be bad if the weight goes to 3400lbs or so. And my guess is that, if Ford does it, that means GM will need to do it too.

I wonder what Dodge will do with the Challenger? It already weighs as much as a moon so I'm not sure even how a four cylinder would take to that. I know the Dart SRT-4 is rumored to have 300hp out of a turbo 2.4, so if that's the case I could see that happening.

Provided they get this body design right, this could be the fastest generation of Mustangs ever built.

Because the look of the car has everything to do with how fast it will be.

This looks like a freaking businessman's car. Where did old Mustang go? I guess Ford wants sales to go down.

Have you bothered to actually read any of the posts in this thread? No styling of the car has been released, everything that's being posted are just artist renderings of what they think it will look like. The only people who know what it will look like are the people at Ford and I believe Ken Block who did something with it for Ford.

But the Mustang design needs to be changed so it doesn't go stagnant. It looked dated when it came out in 2005, mostly because it was dated to begin with, but retro was the "in" thing then. Now the auto industry styling trends have moved towards more futuristic looking designs and I fully expect the new Mustang to look substantially different. You'll still know it's a Mustang and a Ford product, but it won't look like a resto-mod.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

I wonder what Dodge will do with the Challenger? It already weighs as much as a moon so I'm not sure even how a four cylinder would take to that. I know the Dart SRT-4 is rumored to have 300hp out of a turbo 2.4, so if that's the case I could see that happening.



Because the look of the car has everything to do with how fast it will be.



Have you bothered to actually read any of the posts in this thread? No styling of the car has been released, everything that's being posted are just artist renderings of what they think it will look like. The only people who know what it will look like are the people at Ford and I believe Ken Block who did something with it for Ford.

But the Mustang design needs to be changed so it doesn't go stagnant. It looked dated when it came out in 2005, mostly because it was dated to begin with, but retro was the "in" thing then. Now the auto industry styling trends have moved towards more futuristic looking designs and I fully expect the new Mustang to look substantially different. You'll still know it's a Mustang and a Ford product, but it won't look like a resto-mod.

I'm talking about the first pic. And I'm sorry for making a mistake Mr. Perfectomundo.

 

[Joey D]

I'm talking about the first pic. And I'm sorry for making a mistake Mr. Perfectomundo.

The first picture in this thread isn't even a Mustang, it's an Evos and even says it on the picture in giant letters.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

The first picture in this thread isn't even a Mustang, it's an Evos and even says it on the picture in giant letters.

You embarrassed me!

 

[Slash]

I wonder what Dodge will do with the Challenger? It already weighs as much as a moon so I'm not sure even how a four cylinder would take to that. I know the Dart SRT-4 is rumored to have 300hp out of a turbo 2.4, so if that's the case I could see that happening.



Because the look of the car has everything to do with how fast it will be.



Have you bothered to actually read any of the posts in this thread? No styling of the car has been released, everything that's being posted are just artist renderings of what they think it will look like. The only people who know what it will look like are the people at Ford and I believe Ken Block who did something with it for Ford.

But the Mustang design needs to be changed so it doesn't go stagnant. It looked dated when it came out in 2005, mostly because it was dated to begin with, but retro was the "in" thing then. Now the auto industry styling trends have moved towards more futuristic looking designs and I fully expect the new Mustang to look substantially different. You'll still know it's a Mustang and a Ford product, but it won't look like a resto-mod.

Sorry about that, I had a few tings running in my mind I wanted to say and totally worded that wrong. Sometimes I'll have it all sounded out in my head and my fingers don't type it the way I want. I was trying to get across the fact that I hope they will have an awesome looking shell but I don't think it will. The power part was supposed to be a different part of my post lol. But if you take aerodynamics into consideration I guess my post wouldn't be too far off. Then again the Mustang never really has been much of an aerodynamic car.

 

[YSSMAN]

I wonder what Dodge will do with the Challenger? It already weighs as much as a moon so I'm not sure even how a four cylinder would take to that. I know the Dart SRT-4 is rumored to have 300hp out of a turbo 2.4, so if that's the case I could see that happening.

I'm not sure if they have a plan put in motion for the next-generation car as of yet. I'd assume that their new rear-drive architecture would be one shared between the American and Europeans brands, presumably smaller with the European market in mind. They'll be starring down the barrel of both Ford and GM with their globally designed models... I can't imagine that Fiat-Chrysler would be that willing to keep rolling with that Mercedes-based model.

 

[DeathSmiles]

There have been no official images, or even camod models of the incoming model photographed yet. The general public does not know how it will look.

All we have been told, is that it won't be retro, and that it will be a forward thinking design. The Evos could be used a guess of how it may be styled (similarly).

So, whining about the styling of renders, and concepts from years ago as if that's how it will look, is kind of weird. lol

 

[RocZX]

Four-Cylinder Turbo 2015 Mustang

I would love to see it a new SVO, if it had the AWD system something like they did with the Taurus SHO. And it had more power then the V6 that would be cool. But I have a gut feeling that Ford will make it more about fuel economy then performance and it would have about the same HP as the V6 but with better MPG and nothing would be fun about it.

 

[Slash]

AWD Mustang would cause Ford to receive a lot of hate mail like the FWD days...I don't think they are that stupid.

 

[YSSMAN]

I would love to see it a new SVO, if it had the AWD system something like they did with the Taurus SHO.

I get the feeling that it's something the engineers would love to do, but realistically, it doesn't fit the Mustang's persona. I think it would be a fantastic way to differentiate itself against the competition, and really let them put their toes into a segment that's entirely dominated by the luxury marques. If Ford is really looking to do it, my guess would be that this would be what Lincoln would end up with.

 

[Joey D]

I get the feeling that it's something the engineers would love to do, but realistically, it doesn't fit the Mustang's persona. I think it would be a fantastic way to differentiate itself against the competition, and really let them put their toes into a segment that's entirely dominated by the luxury marques. If Ford is really looking to do it, my guess would be that this would be what Lincoln would end up with.

Well what do you know....

Lincoln Tentatively Planning Rear-Drive Coupe

Over the past two years, Lincoln has been working on a plan to restart the brand. Among these efforts came the renaming the marque back to the Lincoln Motor Company, adding its own design and engineering team, and own advertising plan. All throughout this, the media and automotive fans alike have been calling for one thing in particular: a rear-wheel drive car. Speculation surrounding a rear-drive Lincoln has spurred recently, and FIN has been told one such reason is because a Mustang-based coupe is now in the card's for Ford's luxury brand.

There is one thing to keep clear. This is less set in stone then most products under development in the Ford umbrella for Lincoln has been given a “last chance” in the 2013 MkZ and/or 2014 “MkD” (if they end up calling the compact CUV that name). If one or both of these products fail on the marketplace, the mothership could pull the plug on the company Henry bought for revenge.

If all goes according to plan with successful launches of those two essential products, the Mustang-based coupe will commence in late 2015. As always with future product talk, the actual date of introduction will likely vary due to development. Assuming things stay relatively close, we expect this car to be a 2016 or 2017 model.

This Lincoln will most likely launch after the all-new MkS, Navigator, MkX and near the launch of a Explorer platform based Lincoln depending, again, on development speeds.

Though not too many specifics are known at this stage of development, FIN has learned the rear-drive Lincoln should have a member of the Nano engine family, most likely a 2.9-liter EcoBoost V-6. FIN expects this Lincoln to differ from the Mustang with a slightly larger wheelbase.

As of now, this Mustang-based Lincoln is only being developed as a coupe. As we have reported earlier, Lincoln is also considering a full-size rear-wheel drive flagship for later in this decade using the next-generation Mustang as a basis as well. Ford rightfully is not likely to make any significant investments developing further future products until it becomes clear that Lincoln's revival plan is working.

Though no name has been attached to the project as of yet, do to historical reasons, a Mark Series name would seem fitting. Nearly all previous Lincoln coupes sported a Mark name.

Source: Ford Inside News

A RWD, with optional AWD, coupe from Lincoln, powered by a 2.3L EcoBoost, with an optional 5.0L V8 in the higher-performance version, would really give the ATS a run for its money.

 

[RDF97]

The Americans have finally gotten into the trend of downsizing and it seems they've finally pulled it off with tremendous success but that is not a good looking car.

THEY HAVE KILLED THE LOOK OF THE MUSTANG!!!!

 

[RDF97]

This looks like a freaking businessman's car. Where did old Mustang go? I guess Ford wants sales to go down.

I couldn't agree with you more!

 

[Joey D]

The Americans have finally gotten into the trend of downsizing and it seems they've finally pulled it off with tremendous success but that is not a good looking car.

THEY HAVE KILLED THE LOOK OF THE MUSTANG!!!!

For the umpteenth time, there is no official pictures of what the 2014 Mustang is going to look like.