2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion
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I'm liking this so far...
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I just hope the turbo 4 model is really a go.
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I'm genuinely interested as to why people are so enthused about the turbo 4 potentiality. Sure the fuel economy is likely better, but why else would you pick it over an n/a V6?
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So you don't have to say that you drive a V6 Mustang? 
The I-4 should be lighter and torquier.
The I-4 should be lighter and torquier.
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There are people out there that like smaller, turbo engines. Personally I don't like V8's, but I do like a I4 with a turbo.
Also chances are it will generate more power than the V6 without changing the fuel economy.
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I live at 5000FT+ above sea level so anything NA is going to lose a lot more HP vs FI car. On summer days our DA is closer to 7000feet. Plus I have owned a V8 Mustang Cobra for 15 years now so its time for a change. And modding a turbo 4 car is way easier than a NA v6.
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It all depends on pricing, and the way things are at Ford, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2.3T be the premium option over the base 3.7L V6. It's a numbers game for them, and with the V6 being in almost everything, I'm guessing it'd be a good bit cheaper to put in the base car.
Either way, if they're going to offer the Pony Pack on the 2.3T model (ie, GT suspension, wheels/tires and brakes), that'd be the way to go for budget-minded enthusiasts.
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So you don't have to say that you drive a V6 Mustang?
More torque yes, but it might not be lighter. Turbos themselves are heavy and the associated plumbing and sort of 'turbo infrastructure' is quite heavy too. I wouldn't be surprised if they were nearly the same weight, and the turbo engine is taller and longer. V6 could potentially have better weight distribution, and that combined with more linear response, should make it better in the corners and probably more delicious to steer with the throttle. The higher elevation is definitely a valid concern though.
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That's an increasingly good question. The fuel economy isn't going to be particularly better than the V6; and it will almost certainly be the more expensive option over the V6, just like it is for the F150. The only hope is that Ford gets the supposed 350 hp number thrown around a few pages back or they shore it up with a bunch of underwritten standard equipment to justify it.
It's probably going to do best in foreign countries with displacement taxes more than anything.
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CodeRedR51
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More news on a December unveiling.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/17/2015-ford-mustang-revealed-december/
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/17/2015-ford-mustang-revealed-december/
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Does anyone remember that Jalopnik article where a guy claimed he was invited to an event to test out the S550? His testament to how the car looked matches up to those CAD renderings. He even said at one point that the rear lights looked 3d and each side had 3 "louvers" that turned inward on both sides and that he could stick his hand into them...This was September of 2012 I think. Here's the link:
http://jalopnik.com/5949026/the-20145-ford-mustang-everything-we-know
http://jalopnik.com/5949026/the-20145-ford-mustang-everything-we-know
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New, updated renders.
Ford is also planning a full reveal next week to auto writers, so lets hope someone gets in there and gets some pictures so we don't have to wait until December. They are also claiming 350 horsepower with the turbo I4 as a step up over the V6, and 450 horsepower for the 5.0L V8.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/its-here-ford-to-unveil-2015-mustang-next-week.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/16/autos-ford-mustang-idUSL1N0I61L120131016
Ford is also planning a full reveal next week to auto writers, so lets hope someone gets in there and gets some pictures so we don't have to wait until December. They are also claiming 350 horsepower with the turbo I4 as a step up over the V6, and 450 horsepower for the 5.0L V8.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/its-here-ford-to-unveil-2015-mustang-next-week.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/16/autos-ford-mustang-idUSL1N0I61L120131016
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450hp from the 5 liter? Wow, that's pretty hefty. Just shy of GM's 6.2. I wonder if the redline will be even higher than before.
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I can't imagine it being too difficult honestly. The Boss motors screamed 444hp, so how hard can it be to squeeze out 6 more? If they breathed that well at 8,000-8,500 rpm, then I'm sure they can get the normal Coyote to do it. They would need to install forged internals though, and that most certainly will drive the price up on top of what they are already claiming it to go up by.
In short, they'd basically just have to take the Boss engine and dump it in and give it a better exhaust manifold.
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I wouldn't expect too much of a price increase on the GT. After all, the Mustang is still well-known as a performance bargain, and getting too far away from that would not only hurt sales, but also hurt the image of the car.
As it is, the current "stripper" GT starts at $30,900. On the highest of high end expectations that I have, I could maybe see Ford moving that price up to $32,400 to start.
Pricing would probably be pretty straightforward:
That way, Ford still keeps them cheap compared to other cars they compete against, still gives them breathing room against the Fiesta ST and Focus ST, and still keeps them neck-and-neck with the forthcoming Camaro and Challenger replacements.
As it is, the current "stripper" GT starts at $30,900. On the highest of high end expectations that I have, I could maybe see Ford moving that price up to $32,400 to start.
Pricing would probably be pretty straightforward:
- 3.7L V6 "Standard" - $23,400
- 2.3L I4 "SVO" - $27,900
- 5.0L V8 GT - $31,400
That way, Ford still keeps them cheap compared to other cars they compete against, still gives them breathing room against the Fiesta ST and Focus ST, and still keeps them neck-and-neck with the forthcoming Camaro and Challenger replacements.
CodeRedR51
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Same here it will be just like the S197 "Bullitt" engine where it became the '10GT Engine. Might as well use it since the development and cert for the engine is already paid for.
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Nor would I.
CodeRedR51
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Could they have done the render in say, red instead of black? 
Hard to see.
Hard to see.
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I don't think they would bother with the 4-cylinder Ecoboost. The 3.7 being the standard car and the 3.5 Ecoboost and 5.0 being the next steps. The 5.0 could get an extra 10 or 20 hp, or maybe up to 450. The Ecoboost could be left alone at 365 or whatever the SHO makes. Normally the Ecoboost has premium pricing but I think demand for the 5.0 is still high enough to gouge $3,000 more out of it over the 3.5. Your price points are decent but I'd swap the 3.5 for the 2.3 because who the hell actually wants a turbo four in such a bigass car? Nobody wants that unless it's a base model, but the Ecoboost 4 is too premium to have it as a base model in the Mustang.
CodeRedR51
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Well we know it's coming, so...
