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I don't like that at all. Whether you think the penalty was right or wrong that's just gaming of the system to time your appeal so the penalty couldn't be applied over the race that matters. It's not even about overturning or reducing the penalty anymore - I'm sure Rossi would happily start from the bloody car park if he's to do so in Qatar! It's distasteful. There'll be asterisks abound whoever wins this title..............and I thought this situation couldn't possibly get any worse :(
 
So as far I understand it, CAS only needs to regard the decision as debatable for Rossi to have his penalty removed for the last race of this season at least?

My understanding as well. So he then could start from where ever he qualifies.

(Would be interesting to see how the Spanish riders and crowd reacts to this if it happens.)

@TRGTspecialist, completely agree. This championship is now tainted, whatever happens.
 
I'm happy to say Marquez was making moves on Rossi more aggressively than normal because of what Rossi said to him on Thursday, but your argument that Marquez hit Rossi twice is just flat out wrong. You're questioning whether I or others have even watched the race yet it's you who seems to have watched something different to us.
Marquez bike hit ross;is helmet, its not hard to see. More importantly Marqueuz was going to cause a high speed collision, He let Lorenzo pass with no fight, at Philip island he delibarately slowed down rossi and his last lap in which he set a lap record on worn tires proves it so what rossi said was simply facts, Rossi also presented Marquez data.

Zarco also said that Marquez was delibarately slowing down rossi before rossi even said anything. Marquez lied to the whole world saying rossi kicked him off, a gentle knee knocked over 200kg, my arse!He took a dive. Also it should be pointed out the penalty points were introduced because of one man and how dangerous he was to other riders, this man is called billy bullshine, otherwise known as Marc Marquez. I feard a tragedy because of that idiot on sunday.
It's not my fault if you pretend you didn't see it. I watch'd the race from the start and it did happen. If you are lucky to find a link Dorna has not yet took down you'll see it. If you don't then I don't care the only thing I can say is it did happen. That's all. Good luck with youtube.

Those Dorna scums are censoring everything.
Go look at dornas site. MM, Lorenzo and pedrosa, Repsol on the main page, Rossi is to be seen nowhere, Lorenzo overtook Rossi on a yellow flag but no punishment, Danny kent in moto3 punished for going slow, but little Marquez was not punished for the same thing. This punishment for rossi is all about the spaniards, Im convinced MM has been given a tidy cheque to play a part in lorenzo winning the title
 
Marquez bike hit ross;is helmet, its not hard to see. More importantly Marqueuz was going to cause a high speed collision, He let Lorenzo pass with no fight, at Philip island he delibarately slowed down rossi and his last lap in which he set a lap record on worn tires proves it so what rossi said was simply facts, Rossi also presented Marquez data.

Zarco also said that Marquez was delibarately slowing down rossi before rossi even said anything. Marquez lied to the whole world saying rossi kicked him off, a gentle knee knocked over 200kg, my arse!He took a dive. Also it should be pointed out the penalty points were introduced because of one man and how dangerous he was to other riders, this man is called billy bullshine, otherwise known as Marc Marquez. I feard a tragedy because of that idiot on sunday.

Go look at dornas site. MM, Lorenzo and pedrosa, Repsol on the main page, Rossi is to be seen nowhere, Lorenzo overtook Rossi on a yellow flag but no punishment, Danny kent in moto3 punished for going slow, but little Marquez was not punished for the same thing. This punishment for rossi is all about the spaniards, Im convinced MM has been given a tidy cheque to play a part in lorenzo winning the title

Why on earth would he pass JL in the last lap if he doesn't want Rossi to be champion.Rossi could have even finished third if he had passed Iannone.VR would have won some important points by doing that,but he failed.
Still i don't see logic in it,maybe MM was playing with them but not to make VR losing the championship.
MM maybe likes close racing more then other riders.
MM was playing with VR @Silverstone,but he crashed out,i can easely state that if he didn't crash he would have won that race and he would have been back in the running for the title aswell.
Maybe VR should blame DP also,DP indeed has delibarated slowed down VR @Aragon just to obstruct VR to win there.
Everything VR says is taken for granted,he says never anything wrong,always speaking the thruth and does never make mistakes by himself.Nobody questioned MM's race before VR did.Everybody believes VR on his word.
And still,reverse the roles,every VR fan would state that it was a kick.If any MM fan would make the same statements as the VR fans doing at this moment,it would have been bull****.
I would even state this:switch the roles of VR and JL,if JL was leading the champioship and VR Rossi was on the hunt.
Put JL in the same battle with MM and doing the same thing as VR did,once again all the VR fans would say that there was a kick.
About yellow flag,if there was indeed a yellow out,JL should have been recalled,but i can't remember why there should have been a yellow flag at all.There was no reason to have a yellow flag situation,i don't think anybody crashed or ran wide there at that point.I could be wrong about that.
 
When things get ugly, I hope all 3 of them ( JL, MM, and VR ) got into heated battle, and 2 of them crashed the bike :lol:
 
My ideal scenario at this point:

Marquez, Rossi and Lorenzo manage to take each other out simultaneously.

The three engage in a massive brawl - fists flying, bits of bike, leather and gravel all over the place.

Dorna disqualfies them all from the championship for their behaviour, giving the title to Pedrosa or Iannone. :D
 
How about you all behave yourselves properly like civilised human beings and DON'T post anything wishing anyone to crash. :grumpy: Even joking about it is not acceptable. :banghead:

I don't wish for anyone to crash, or brawl - that'd only be the case if I was being serious, which I wasn't. But I apologise for joking about it.
 
People make mistakes in life, we all do. No one is perfect. Sometimes we do or say things that we deeply regret afterwards, within the family or at work or at school or on internet forums. Even on race tracks.
Many of us wish we could take some things back if we could turn back the hands of time.


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Marquez bike hit ross;is helmet, its not hard to see. More importantly Marqueuz was going to cause a high speed collision, He let Lorenzo pass with no fight, at Philip island he delibarately slowed down rossi and his last lap in which he set a lap record on worn tires proves it so what rossi said was simply facts, Rossi also presented Marquez data.

Zarco also said that Marquez was delibarately slowing down rossi before rossi even said anything. Marquez lied to the whole world saying rossi kicked him off, a gentle knee knocked over 200kg, my arse!He took a dive. Also it should be pointed out the penalty points were introduced because of one man and how dangerous he was to other riders, this man is called billy bullshine, otherwise known as Marc Marquez. I feard a tragedy because of that idiot on sunday.

Go look at dornas site. MM, Lorenzo and pedrosa, Repsol on the main page, Rossi is to be seen nowhere, Lorenzo overtook Rossi on a yellow flag but no punishment, Danny kent in moto3 punished for going slow, but little Marquez was not punished for the same thing. This punishment for rossi is all about the spaniards, Im convinced MM has been given a tidy cheque to play a part in lorenzo winning the title
Please don't make me go through all this again. Almost every current and ex racer has had their say on twitter etc and while they understand Rossi was frustrated they all say he took it too far. I'm not trying to disrespect you but I take their word over yours.
By the way your idea of Lorenzo overtaking under a yellow flag is laughable, race direction would have big flashing lights on their screen if there was a yellow and it wouldn't be up for debate. No penalty given means no infringement.
 
How about that. The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has rejected a request for Jorge Lorenzo to participate in title rival Valentino Rossi's penalty appeal. Glad they did.

WTF, is Lorenzo thinking :rolleyes:

http://www.racesport.nl/Portals/0/PDF_results/Media_Release_4259_0311_FINAL.pdf

Dorna cancelled the Thursday pre-race media conference and instead have an closed meeting with all drivers and managers. Would be very interesting to know what will be said there.
 
People make mistakes in life, we all do.
The thing is VR didn't make any against Marquez. It's Marc poor actor studio that some of the people pretend to be fooled with the real problem.

And Lorenzo cheering for his partner on the court, the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in the whole motorbike racing history. He basically want a lawer to gift him the title and still pretend others to recognize him as a champion.
I just recognize him and his sweet Marc lover as the biggest scumbags that ever walked a race track.
 
I haven't been this excited for a race in a long time, first we need to see whether or not the penalty will be applied, then there's the race itself before the inevitable post-race handbags.
 
Lorenzo is showing his desperation as much as VR and MM, only he is getting involved when he really has no involvement to have. Looks like he'd rather win it off the track then on it 👎.
Lorenzo's reaction after the Sepang race was embarrassing for himself and the team, and everyone else really. But he does have a say in this, where Rossi starts affects his chance of the title, so the outcome of Rossi's appeal is more Lorenzo's business than it is Marquez'. Lorenzo's appeal was always going to be rejected but he had to do it in my opinion.
 
Unfortunately that was a bit expected from the CAS.
Still very exited over the whole weekend and wondering how it will end. (Not very well for sure :ouch:)

On an other note; Sector Watches apparently stopped sponsorship to Lorenzo as of immediately after his comments in Sepang and his appeal to CAS. Wonder if some more sponsors have the balls to follow this.
 
On an other note; Sector Watches apparently stopped sponsorship to Lorenzo as of immediately after his comments in Sepang and his appeal to CAS. Wonder if some more sponsors have the balls to follow this.
True story? If so I'm actually considering buying one of their watches, just because of this.

In the end, looks like I'm not alone with the "it's about HOW you win" mentality.
 
You can order the watch :lol:.
Also the news is brought that Jorge Lorenzo today has publicly apologized for his actions on the podium after the Malaysian Grand Prix, to little to late.....
Way too late. Who still care about him?
He might win 2015 title but he's gonna be a loser in most of the people's eyes.


"Sector No Limits has always been an expression of the values of sportsmanship, challenge, healthy competition and integrity," the company's official statement read.

"[These values] do not concur with the events that have occurred in recent weeks as part of the MotoGP World Championship."
Take it, loser.
 
Well, I expect a similar situation to Schumi's last GP for Ferrari where he missed the title by a few points but recorded a great drive. I think VR will finished 4-5 but miss out by a position or two.
 
That's encouraging to see a sponsor who actually cares about the integrity of the sport, instead of the usual only caring about political correctness.

I think it's funny that in his interview after Malaysia, Lorenzo thought a lot of people would lose repsect for Rossi as a "sporting man". Seems kind of the opposite has happened, with most people looking sideways at Lorenzo and Marquez :lol:

Part of me wants to buy into the tin hat theory where the whole field moves out of Rossi's way to go fight the two Spanish lovers...but then at the same time that would feel cheap in a way.

I definitely want to see Rossi ride through the field and take the title, but I too agree that he'll probably come up just short.

Fingers crossed that Pedrosa can run away at the front. Anyone think Marquez will gift a position to Lorenzo?

Everyone seems to be talking like Lorenzo has the win already locked up. I know Rossi still takes the title if he can finish 2nd in the race....but what if Lorenzo doesn't win?

I guess that's why his 🤬-ass has been crying to try to get Rossi parked :lol:
 
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