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Would that help much, considering the chicane only slows down turn 13, not 12 where the crash occurred?
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I honestly think it's a complete overreaction, like most of the times when something serious happend.
There were so many MotoGP races already where nothing happend. Just remember the race in 2009 where Lorenzo and Rossi were going at it full throttle, side-by-side, for multiple laps till the checkered flag.
Also as far as I know, there are no news out what even happend and why he crashed.
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Very sad to hear Luis Salom has died after his Moto2 crash. He was a great young talent taken far too early at just 24 years old.
RIP Luis
RIP Luis
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He lost control, slid of his bike and went full speed into the barrier.
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This change is definitely required. With tarmac runoff there is nothing slowing the bike or rider down so until a gravel trap can be fitted the corner needs to be slower. The fact that this happened proves that it is a possibility, however small, and needs to be prevented; albeit too little, too late in most people's eyes but at least we can be fairly confident the same won't be happening again this weekend.
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But something has happened.
I think there's an element of respect in this too - ultimately the organisers had to request permission from Luis' family to continue with the weekend. Having everyone race by the point where a rider has just been killed would be uncomfortable to say the least.
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I actually don't understand how you can crash at high speed in turn 12,it should be a (relative) slow turn imo.
Watched this video a couple times.
correct me if i'm wrong,but the turn Luis has crashed is at 1'39-1.41 in this video.
F1 2016 lay out,this proves it will slow them really down at that section.
Watched this video a couple times.
correct me if i'm wrong,but the turn Luis has crashed is at 1'39-1.41 in this video.
F1 2016 lay out,this proves it will slow them really down at that section.
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Yes, it's there. "High speed" is always subjective. I used those words in my previous post because judging from the footage, Salom lost it at an high speed considering the section of the track. Which means he could've lost it at the exact moment he touched the brakes (a lowside) or maybe even when he was still accelerating out of the previous corner(less plausible).
This should approximately be the braking point for bikes, and if you run a bit too wide outside the kerb there are different surfaces with different levels of grip; painted tarmac, astroturf, concrete all in a few meters. Just an assumption of course.
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The F1 layout looks safer and I always thought sequences like that produced better racing between bikes, the low-speed twisty stuff were a rider can go around the outside in one corner and stuff it up the inside in the next. We had one of the greatest finishes to a race due to the normal MotoGP section in 2009 but I think that was an exception.
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Absolutely gutted to wake up to this news, what a terrible shame. I recall his 'big' moto3 year when he should really have been champion. Ugh, such sad sad news.
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Was a big fan of his in Moto3. I'm trying not to but i'm relating this to Simoncelli's incident. There are very few sessions I miss of motogp, and today I decided to not watch the practice live, as the Malaysian GP is the only race I didn't watch live as well. It's just lifes way of messing with people.
A huge loss and dark dark day indeed. I hope the MotoGP top riders have respect enough this week to put their differences aside and show some respect to Salom. RIP Luis.
A huge loss and dark dark day indeed. I hope the MotoGP top riders have respect enough this week to put their differences aside and show some respect to Salom. RIP Luis.
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During today's opening TT Sidecar race Dwight Beare was killed - his passenger is said to be in a stable condition.
Then in the afternoon solo practice, Paul Shoesmith was also killed in a separate incident. As things like this have a strange context to them, this was no different as Paul had earlier set a new personal lap record during the earlier Superbike race.
It has been a very dark weekend for motorcycle racing. Unfortunately we all know what the TT is and what it brings every year, so perhaps the following week may be extremely painful. I hope and pray this is not the case and hope all riders return home safely despite the scary new speeds that are being set by the TT greats. I hope they are pushing themselves within reason.
RIP to all this weekend
Then in the afternoon solo practice, Paul Shoesmith was also killed in a separate incident. As things like this have a strange context to them, this was no different as Paul had earlier set a new personal lap record during the earlier Superbike race.
It has been a very dark weekend for motorcycle racing. Unfortunately we all know what the TT is and what it brings every year, so perhaps the following week may be extremely painful. I hope and pray this is not the case and hope all riders return home safely despite the scary new speeds that are being set by the TT greats. I hope they are pushing themselves within reason.
RIP to all this weekend
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Very exciting race and no tears for JL for...squares the 'luck' ledger for last race. Going to be a frosty relationship with Iannone for sure! Nice to see MM and VR shake hands in parc ferme...
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And just took out yet another rider.
FIA parked Grosjean for a race in 2012, it might be time for FIM to do the same with Iannone soon.
He's taken out three riders in seven races.
Those podium trophies looks cool.
Very nice craftsmanship.
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That was indeed very good to see, let's hope it that can stay that way from now on, so that they can make it a 3 way battle for the title.
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The FIA parked Grosjean because his was a stupid mistake that nearly killed Alonso. Iannone can be impetuous, but I don't think that this collision was of the same calibre. If anything, it looked like he was using the brake marker for the old layout, and he only collided with Lorenzo because he turned in.
Mind you, I'm not sympathetic towards Lorenzo in the slightest. I really don't care for him considering the way he tried to wade into the stewards meeting after Sepang last year. If Iannone had hit anyone else, I might be a little more inflamed, but I don't think he's done enough to warrant benching him.
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I hope Iannone gets a race ban. He was far too back to even think about a move. In the words of John Cleland 'the man's an animal' 
I thought Rossi's celebrations were a bit over the top really, but nice to see him and marc shake hands.
I thought Rossi's celebrations were a bit over the top really, but nice to see him and marc shake hands.
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Well, it's a good thing the stewards aren't making their decisions based on how much they care for a rider or not. Fact remains that Iannone's starting to become a liability out there.
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