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- 7,207
- Ostend, Belgium
- Speedy6543
A crash surely should overrule the engine seal. At least to check on the engine's internals.
- 6,390
- Kent
- tombrookscomms
I spoke to a chap called Ian Wheeler who is the Communications Manager for the Marc VDS Moto2 team about this very subject some time ago, and he believes that the circuit wouldn't be suitable for motorcycle racing due to the nature of the racing as well as the kilometer long straight that has limited run off at the end of it.
- 904
- orlando,FL,USA
Well said, but anyhow Yas is a great track in reality from a safety POV its pretty much a no-go in the manner of how monza and sochi could never be on calendar due very nature of both of those circuits.
Going back to Suzuka though I would like for it to make comeback, but for that to happen huge modifications at 130R and Casio would have to be made.
- 4,887
- Los Angeles, Cali
- JoeTruckV8
Good Find! That's was the only thing I could figure out for this track. Its actually built inside of a big sand box with walls of a different sort at the edges. If you were to go off especially at the end of both straights with the last straight being the worse of the two I could see a straight impact for a rider into 1 of the Abu Dhadi parameter walls or stands for that matter,.
- 1,086
- St-Hyacinthe, QC
- GTP_pilmat
- pilmat
Great tracks for cars do not always translate that well for the bikes. The way riders fall and where they and the machines go when they do makes the safety features of certain tracks incompatible. The changes made on the back straight at Misano were a real eye opener for me on this aspect. Look up a video of Pasini's crash there when he and Barbera got close in 2008. Where Pasini stopped sliding was a wall the year before.
There were also a few changes made at Indy to make it safer for bikes, like the wall at turn 5 exit was moved as a sliding bike/rider could easily reach it at too straight of an angle.
And forget Suzuka. Corner 12 (or 200R if you prefer) is far too dangerous for bikes, and there is no way to modify the track there. Plus, after Kato's crash, Honda don't want to go back there, and as they already host the Japanese GP, I can't see it leaving Motegi any time soon.
The MotoGP formula seems to be working quite well. With Suzuki back in 2015 and Aprillia announcing their return in 2016, the manufacturers seem to be getting on board. Agreed that Honda do not like the direction the ECU is going, they need MotoGP as much as MotoGP needs them. I think the future will see HRC bikes for quite a while. Now we need Kawasaki and BMW to step up to the plate
There were also a few changes made at Indy to make it safer for bikes, like the wall at turn 5 exit was moved as a sliding bike/rider could easily reach it at too straight of an angle.
And forget Suzuka. Corner 12 (or 200R if you prefer) is far too dangerous for bikes, and there is no way to modify the track there. Plus, after Kato's crash, Honda don't want to go back there, and as they already host the Japanese GP, I can't see it leaving Motegi any time soon.
The MotoGP formula seems to be working quite well. With Suzuki back in 2015 and Aprillia announcing their return in 2016, the manufacturers seem to be getting on board. Agreed that Honda do not like the direction the ECU is going, they need MotoGP as much as MotoGP needs them. I think the future will see HRC bikes for quite a while. Now we need Kawasaki and BMW to step up to the plate
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- Ostend, Belgium
- Speedy6543
- 4,887
- Los Angeles, Cali
- JoeTruckV8
Remembering Nicky Hayden flying over the Aragon wall now!Great tracks for cars do not always translate that well for the bikes. The way riders fall and where they and the machines go when they do makes the safety features of certain tracks incompatible. The changes made on the back straight at Misano were a real eye opener for me on this aspect. Look up a video of Pasini's crash there when he and Barbera got close in 2008. Where Pasini stopped sliding was a wall the year before.
There were also a few changes made at Indy to make it safer for bikes, like the wall at turn 5 exit was moved as a sliding bike/rider could easily reach it at too straight of an angle.
And forget Suzuka. Corner 12 (or 200R if you prefer) is far too dangerous for bikes, and there is no way to modify the track there. Plus, after Kato's crash, Honda don't want to go back there, and as they already host the Japanese GP, I can't see it leaving Motegi any time soon.
The MotoGP formula seems to be working quite well. With Suzuki back in 2015 and Aprillia announcing their return in 2016, the manufacturers seem to be getting on board. Agreed that Honda do not like the direction the ECU is going, they need MotoGP as much as MotoGP needs them. I think the future will see HRC bikes for quite a while. Now we need Kawasaki and BMW to step up to the plate
- 2,998
- England
- Peasantslayer
Quite surprised to see the factory Yams so close to the top in terms of lap time, I think this shows Rossi has definitely found something from last year and if you combine his best sector times he had about a tenth over Lorenzo. Should be a great race between the top bikes if Lorenzo gets into P1 like he so often does.
- 4,887
- Los Angeles, Cali
- JoeTruckV8
Was using the MotoGp Timing App this time around, very awesome in deed 
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- Down under
I'm not so positive for Yamaha. They seem miles off the pace of the Honda's - MM looks like he is going to have an easy year ahead of him at the current rate.
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- Ostend, Belgium
- Speedy6543
Like a friend of mine stated, these first few tracks are very honda like with their long straights so I also think (hope) the Yamahas will catch up.
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- Cairo, Egypt
- GTP_SEMS
When is the race (GMT time?)
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- 12,603
- West Yorkshire
- Tired_Tyres
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8 PM BST so 7PM GMT 53 minutes from the time of this post.
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Who won?
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- Ostend, Belgium
- Speedy6543
MM dominated! Man he's fast.
- 904
- orlando,FL,USA
Its a Honda track so this was all but predictable...in fact I predict the extact thing in the next race as that highly favors the honda's
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Maverick wins his second Moto2 race - MM, watch out!
Dark days for the factory blue Yahamas - beaten by TechIII, all the factory Honda's and some open class bikes
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Dark days for the factory blue Yahamas - beaten by TechIII, all the factory Honda's and some open class bikes
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- 7,207
- Ostend, Belgium
- Speedy6543
No idea what happened on Valentino's side dropping pace halfway in the race but I do think if Jorge hadn't made that horrible mistake at the start he probably would have taken Dovi's spot on the podium.Dark days for the factory blue Yahamas - beaten by TechIII, all the factory Honda's and some open class bikes
- 2,998
- England
- Peasantslayer
Rossi said that he'd taken the life out of his front tyre and had to drop off the pace significantly, he thought the front would be fine in the race but it wasn't. I noticed that he was taking some very aggressive lines early on which probably contributed to his troubles, when following Iannone he was leaning right over and taking some very tight lines.
- 4,887
- Los Angeles, Cali
- JoeTruckV8
Jorge is officially out of the title hunt. Matter of fact since he went down and I believe Rossi will only come in 2nd to Marc Marquez & Dani Pedrosa here & there this Championship is already figured out even with these great new rules in effect. Dani will fight Rossi for 2nd overall and the Team fight of this year I think will be between Ducati & Tech 3 Yamaha. I also think Tech 3 Yamaha should ditch Bradley Smith whom is the only rider who actually did not rightfully climb up thru the Moto 2 ranks as far s I'm concerned, and should be dropped so Pol E's brother Alexi E. can have the other Tech 3 seat and let the brothers ride it out on the Tech 3 machinery against Ducatie & Bradl. I heard the announcers say "they like Bautista", well I think he falls too much to be a treat and right after I said that boom there he went again skidding off track,,again!!! Hmmm, not surprised'
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- Kent
- tombrookscomms
He self-admittedly 'destroyed the front tyre'. Shame, as he had some promising pace and like you said, could have challenged for 3rd. Nice to see the Ducati on the podium either way.
- 4,887
- Los Angeles, Cali
- JoeTruckV8
I'm wondering if this is the Argentina track is the 1 from the 2010 FIA GT1 Series. That track was insane built on the side of a mountain!!!
- 2,998
- England
- Peasantslayer
I wonder if Rossi took a few risks with the setup to try and find the pace he was missing last year, I can't recall a top bike destroying its tyres like that and as early on as that whilst the rest of the top bikes circulated without any issues.
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- Los Angeles, Cali
- JoeTruckV8
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