2017 F1 Constructor technical info/developmentFormula 1

[TenEightyOne]

No, because as the drivers say all the time, they realize they're putting the lives into the hands of fate or chance or whatever. They signed up to do a dangerous job for sport or entertainment and if they die, while a great tragedy, a also sobering reminder of the nature.

Generally it's not the drivers who sue but the families, as in Bianchi's case. I'd race in F1 tomorrow if they asked me, and risk be damned. So would you

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Generally it's not the drivers who sue but the families, as in Bianchi's case. I'd race in F1 tomorrow if they asked me, and risk be damned. So would you

True, but I'd ask my family not to push for lawsuit unless it was gross negligence.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Meanwhile, McLaren have announced that they will drop the MP4 prefix from their chassis name following Ron Dennis' departure from the team and Zak Brown's shake-up of their identity. The 2017 car will be known as the McLaren MCL32.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Meanwhile, McLaren have announced that they will drop the MP4 prefix from their chassis name following Ron Dennis' departure from the team and Zak Brown's shake-up of their identity. The 2017 car will be known as the McLaren MCL32.

Be nice if it just took the initials of the Founder instead.

 

[TheCracker]

Be nice if it just took the initials of the Founder instead.

RD32?

 

[TenEightyOne]

RD32?

BM-32 or BLM-32 I think, RD didn't arrive there until they'd already won world championships

I'm surprised the "MP" designation stayed around so long given that it initially stood for "Marlboro Project".

 

[TheCracker]

McLaren as we know it now is really Ron's baby. Pre 1980 Mclaren had been unsuccessful for many seasons. Dennis and his team had developed some massive technical innovations that he wanted to bring to F1, namely the carbonfibre chassis, and was looking to Marlboro (who were sponsoring his F2 team) to finance it. Marlboro wanted to stick with the Marlboro-Mclaren association so helped him buy the team from Teddy Meyer who wanted out anyway. Post 1980 Mclaren was really Project Four rebranded with a established name.

It's not a million miles from what's happened over the past few seasons. Mclaren dropping down the tables so out with the old and in with the new. Makes sense to change the naming conventions at this point.

 

[TenEightyOne]

McLaren as we know it now is really Ron's baby...

Perhaps so, but that doesn't make him the

Founder.

The clue's in the team name

 

[Liquid]

Might as well just revert to M, like they were before Ron Dennis' Project 4 merged with them.

I don't see the need for MCL over just M.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

McLaren as we know it now is really Ron's baby. Pre 1980 Mclaren had been unsuccessful for many seasons. Dennis and his team had developed some massive technical innovations that he wanted to bring to F1, namely the carbonfibre chassis, and was looking to Marlboro (who were sponsoring his F2 team) to finance it. Marlboro wanted to stick with the Marlboro-Mclaren association so helped him buy the team from Teddy Meyer who wanted out anyway. Post 1980 Mclaren was really Project Four rebranded with a established name.

It's not a million miles from what's happened over the past few seasons. Mclaren dropping down the tables so out with the old and in with the new. Makes sense to change the naming conventions at this point.

That's not how it works, Bruce was successful in his own right, and the creator of the team that lives on today. All Dennis did was expand that to road cars, and other forms of racing. Even though Bruce was a F1 winner and sports car winner too, and had established the team with this.

MCL is out with the old and in with new, but not because of the downturn they've seen, rather just because the old era has left, and a new one is theoretically starting.

@TenEightyOne Yes it did stand for that but when Marlboro left McLaren and primarily stuck with Ferrari, the name became Mclaren Project 4. Project 4 standing for the team Dennis created, and McLaren obviously for the team but the distinction that these were no longer cars funded by Marlboro. That is why the MP4 designation was kept so long.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Beast, apparently.

#brianblessed

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Beast, apparently.

#brianblessed

Sounds nice, guess they built a new ground up engine too. Not sure if I should worry, or be excited.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Vettel has suffered a "heavy" crash in tyre testing but is reportedly "okay". He was driving a 2015 car with 2017-simulated downforce. BBC.

 

[IforceV8]

 

[catamount39]

Hydro planing?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Hydro planing?

Quite likely, but then it was a wet tyre test. On Pirelli wets.

 

[BrainsBush]

Hydro planing?

Probably Max

 

[TenEightyOne]

Hydro planing?

Further to that;

Vettel's crash was on his first lap out of the pits after a break for lunch. The weather was cold - the temperature was 4C - and it has been suggested that a lack of temperature in the tyres could well have been a contributing factor.

F1 tyres have to be at the right temperature to operate effectively and the temperature in Maranello on Thursday was in the region of 10C cooler than F1 cars would ever normally encounter at even the coolest Grand Prix.

The Pirelli spokesman also said that one of the technologies the company was trying that day were tyres that operate without the use of the heating blankets that have been used in F1 for many years to ensure they are at close to operating temperature as possible when they leave the pits.

4C? Lucky buggers, it's worse than that here

 

[catamount39]

Further to that;



4C? Lucky buggers, it's worse than that here

How does 4F sound because its that here.

 

[TenEightyOne]

How does 4F sound because its that here.

Parky, I'd say

 

[Dotini]

Papaya orange for the new McLaren?
http://www.racer.com/f1/item/138120-boullier-teases-exciting-changes-on-mcl32

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Old news, I'm afraid.

 

[TheElbows]

Wait, a car which won't be black and silver like...most of the field? Thank frikkin' God.

 

[Robin]

I would love for the Orange to be true

 

[catamount39]

I would love for the Orange to be true

Yes. They're 2014-2016 liveries were absolute 🤬 , so them going to an orange livery is a welcome and good change. Plus the grid will get a splash of color as well.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Sauber will start work on their 2018 car pretty early, it's sad to hear this when the 2017 car hasn't even been revealed. At least that's what Zander says after they see if the direction of the 2017 car will work the way they want to. I hope with his expertise back at Sauber they'll at least get some speed.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I don't think they have much of a choice. They only way they're going to regain lost ground is to try and get a head start.

 

[Sting]

Pinch of salt, but apparently this is a leak of the McLaren.

 

[Dan Hill]

Pinch of salt, but apparently this is a leak of the McLaren.



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Hope so the car shape looks beautiful. Good to see the more traditional streamlined nosecone rather than the stubby ones of the last few seasons.

Edit: Mclaren claim the images are fake. Roll on next week.

 

[Pezzarinho17]

A very poor credibility rating here I would say, but it looks like what was seen earlier: