2017 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand PrixFormula 1

[niky]

Was chuckling at the Happy Birthday song playing over the radio at Haas.

Romain should be in a fantastic mood at making Q3.

Palmer, on the other hand, will likely be on the moon.

Renault is looking incredibly strong here.

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Mercedes power too much? Hamilton's provisional pole lap is half a second up on the Ferraris, and a second up on the Red Bulls.

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Bottas just five hundredths behind Lewis. That was a fantastic lap from him.

 

[IforceV8]

They were discussing on NBC in practice the idea that Ferrari were cheating with their floor and rear wing. I just watched the Red Bull do it's impression of Dr.Dre's '64 Impala at the end of the straight when the rear end rose up 3 inches under braking.

 

[Robin]

Channel 4, hilarious

 

[niky]

Not often you see almost everyone out in the last minute of qualifying!

 

[Dennisch]

Ha. Bottas!

 

[niky]

BOTTAS ON POLE!

What a nail-biter! Lewis was a tenth or so up until he bunged up that middle sector!

Here we go. This championship is going to be interesting.

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Ferrari and Red Bull have got to find some power by tomorrow. Or else this will be embarrassing.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Welcome to the big leagues Bottas

 

[05XR8]

How about that?

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Ha! They said "**** Nico!" to Bottas on radio

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The others were no where to be seen compared to Mercedes...I wanna say it's because this track is different from the first two that Mercedes own this track. Though not sure it's because it's different that the others tend to fall off, compare to the Mercedes.

 

[niky]

Was only a matter of time.

Remember, he was three-tenths off Lewis in qualifying on the very first race.

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Nico was three-and-a-half-tenths off Lewis in the same race last year.

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I knew at that point that Bottas was in with a chance of out-qualifying Lewis this year.

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The only question is whether his in-race pace will hold up. Lewis still has the edge on him there, except on the longer runs.

 

[JayOTT]

Nice to see Ricciardo get within eight tenths of pole this time as that gives us hope of seeing a three-way battle for race victories later in the season if Red Bull can continue to close the gap. Not that Mercedes vs Ferrari can't be exciting, but more contenders can only make things better. Speaking of, Bottas converting this pole into a race win would do wonders for the drivers championship.

 

[niky]

Kind of disappointed, actually, that they didn't close up on Ferrari at the end, though Ricciardo did split them at the end.

The others were no where to be seen compared to Mercedes...I wanna say it's because this track is different from the first two that Mercedes own this track. Though not sure it's because it's different that the others tend to fall off, compare to the Mercedes.

Commentators were talking about Totto Wolf asking his engineers for more power.

Seems like he got it.

 

[Famine]

Don't delete this because it's a new topic and the last post was over an hour ago.

I think you mean 'Please don't delete this' - and your previous post wasn't deleted, rather merged into the one before it, also from you about 2 minutes previously, as it was an unnecessary double-post.

If you're having trouble with the concept of what constitutes an unnecessary double-post, try having a look here.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

The "Don't delete this" was referring to that post itself since it was about qualifying and not the streaming. I get it.

Please and thank you. Have a nice day.

 

[Peter.]

Took me an hour and a half extra to see qualifying thanks to NBC. Well done Bottas, I don't think Lewis could have topped that even if he didn't botch his sector 2.

Last time I ever listen to Craig Scarborough. At the start of the season, he said the Force India aero package was better than McLaren, Renault and Sauber based on his observation. Look how that turned out.

Expect a boring race actually. Bahrain is more like Abu Dhabi in terms of its entertainment factor, and the cars probably won't be able to follow each other out of the final turn well enough. The straight out of turn 1 will be the hotspot tomorrow.

 

[TenEightyOne]

The "Don't delete this" was referring to that post itself since it was about qualifying and not the streaming. I get it.

Please and thank you. Have a nice day.

Just edit a new comment into your existing post if necessary, it's the easiest way. Lighting up the topic in the thread list isn't everything you know

OT: Bottas... who'd a thunk it? Might we have three winners from three races (if only two teams)? I'd really like Verstappen to take this one though...

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Took me an hour and a half extra to see qualifying thanks to NBC. Well done Bottas, I don't think Lewis could have topped that even if he didn't botch his sector 2.

Last time I ever listen to Craig Scarborough. At the start of the season, he said the Force India aero package was better than McLaren, Renault and Sauber based on his observation. Look how that turned out.

Expect a boring race actually. Bahrain is more like Abu Dhabi in terms of its entertainment factor, and the cars probably won't be able to follow each other out of the final turn well enough. The straight out of turn 1 will be the hotspot tomorrow.

Dude, it's the third race of the season...you keep making leaps as if we're setting up to watch the Mexican grand prix. Sauber has been beat so far by FI, Renault and McLaren have been beat by FI so far. FI is sitting fifth right now in WCC. Sergio said his quali was compromised due to the double yellow and having to slow down, and was on pace to get into Q2. I have no idea what happened to Ocon

Your comment has no merit to it, other than you looked at end quali results remembered the line you paraphrased and made a judgement loosely. Also Scarborough said looks like, he never said it was a certain thing. It was a guess nothing more.

Toro Rosso had a bad Saturday as well, and as I predicted based on people like Scarborough or James Allen Toro Rosso might be a dark horse this season, so far they're fourth. If I took what you said and replaced them instead, it'd be equally as wrong. It's the third race of the season we still haven't a clue.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Was it me or was Brundle an utter idiot during Bottas's lap? , he was up in both sectors 1 and 2, yet Brundle was saying he needs to throw it in sector 3 if he has a chance of pole?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Was it me or was Brundle an utter idiot during Bottas's lap? , he was up in both sectors 1 and 2, yet Brundle was saying he needs to throw it in sector 3 if he has a chance of pole?

While I respect Brundle, I do feel at times, he makes the small mistakes driver's make bigger than what they are over the years. And with the way cars change, you can watch them but never fully know if slight snap oversteer is due to the driver or the car, and if it is bad or good. Obviously for Bottas it was fine, and yet he seemed to think "you need to try harder than that"

 

[daan]

Was it me or was Brundle an utter idiot during Bottas's lap? , he was up in both sectors 1 and 2, yet Brundle was saying he needs to throw it in sector 3 if he has a chance of pole?

Probably because Hamilton was running after Bottas and would have been expected to go faster.

 

[niky]

Probably because Hamilton was running after Bottas and would have been expected to go faster.

Hamilton was indeed up two tenths, if I recall the commentary right, in the first sector, and only lost out because he bottled it in the second. Bottas really needed to nail that third sector, either way. As it was, he clinched pole by mere hundredths.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Probably because Hamilton was running after Bottas and would have been expected to go faster.

Hamilton was indeed up two tenths, if I recall the commentary right, in the first sector, and only lost out because he bottled it in the second. Bottas really needed to nail that third sector, either way. As it was, he clinched pole by mere hundredths.

Hamilton had a worse first sector



As soon as Bottas gets the T2 split, Brundle says it's not working for Bottas . He was on course for pole, how was is that not working

 

[Dennisch]

As soon as Bottas gets the T2 split, Brundle says it's not working for Bottas

Brundle is fake news!

 

[Jimlaad43]

Took me an hour and a half extra to see qualifying thanks to NBC. Well done Bottas, I don't think Lewis could have topped that even if he didn't botch his sector 2.

Last time I ever listen to Craig Scarborough. At the start of the season, he said the Force India aero package was better than McLaren, Renault and Sauber based on his observation. Look how that turned out.

Expect a boring race actually. Bahrain is more like Abu Dhabi in terms of its entertainment factor, and the cars probably won't be able to follow each other out of the final turn well enough. The straight out of turn 1 will be the hotspot tomorrow.

Remember that FI had a horrific China and Bahrain last season, and look where they ended up in the end.

 

[Haitauer]

BOTTAS ON POLE!

What a nail-biter! Lewis was a tenth or so up until he bunged up that middle sector!

Here we go. This championship is going to be interesting.

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Ferrari and Red Bull have got to find some power by tomorrow. Or else this will be embarrassing.

Yet another flying finn spreading the wings.. Finally. go Valtteri!

Louis and Seb are THE guys to beat. Seven world championships between them, and Valtteri showed he can be right up there. and big 👍 to Louis for being such a straight guy even on second place. Nice to see the Merc guys getting along.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

As soon as Bottas gets the T2 split, Brundle says it's not working for Bottas . He was on course for pole, how was is that not working

Probably because Bottas was only 0.047 up on the current pole time (already losing some of the 0.088 advantage he gained in S1), but had typically been losing a tenth in the final sector, I'd imagine that's why he made that comment.

Congrats to Bottas, he performed exceptionally.

 

[Dotini]

Giddiness after his first F1 pole and during the interview;

'The unflappable Finn let out a rare whoop over the team radio, with engineer Tony Ross -- who had inadvertently called Bottas 'Nico' during the race in China -- replying that "for a moment there you actually showed some emotion, well done".

Hamilton and Vettel, sitting alongside Bottas in front of reporters, jokingly asked the polesitter whether the Finnish language had a word for 'excited' or 'exciting'.

Bottas thought hard but words failed him. "Kind of," he hesitated, as his rivals laughed.

"See, it doesn't exist," said Vettel. "It's not one that's really used much in the vocabulary," added Hamilton.

"I don't know really," concluded Bottas'
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/bottas-ends-hamiltons-pole-run-bahrain-161602479--f1.html

 

[Tintorera]

The 2016 pole by Hamilton was a 1:29.423 lap. This years pole lap was only .654s quicker.

Does anyone know why there was so little gain here, as we saw almost 4s gain from last year in China?

 

[JayOTT]

Does anyone know why there was so little gain here, as we saw almost 4s gain from last year in China?

Compared to the 2016 cars, the 2017 formula is significantly heavier, and more downforce also means more drag. Bahrain has four straights of substantial length and only three or four corners where more downforce can make a huge difference (the rest were either low-speed or close enough to flat out in the 2016 cars already).

Contrast with Shangai, which has only two really long straights and at least five corners where the downforce can really make up time.