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I didn't mean to insinuate that FI were going belly up, or that the hierarchy was well established in any way. I just found it rather funny how adamant someone who's opinion is taken as gospel by some armchair engineers on the internet was a bit off the mark so far.
That said I have a lot of respect for Scarbs and acknowledge that he knows a hell of a lot more than most, including myself.
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No it isn't, because as I've said already, FI has beaten those you've listed so far. As for Scarborough himself I don't know his background I stick to either James Allen or Piola who has never been an engineer, but has pretty good depth and understanding and technical illustrations.
That's good, I respect his contributions, I just don't know his background nor ever looked into it.
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I'd ask what you're talking about cause no where in the video, nor the first time I saw the interview (live post quali) did he say the car was only good enough to make it to Q2 had he made it in to Q2.
What Peter said was Scarborough guessed the FI would be better than Renault, McLaren, Sauber, based on the cars looks. And then went on to express disappointment in believing said F1 pundit, because after today's quali he doubts that.
All I said essentially was basing said thought on this quali session are wrong, because the prior two races show that FI is beating everyone Scarborough predicted they would based on Peter's reference. Oh and that it's far too early for him to make assumptions as he has been, this not being the only one.
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Yes, the end.
I would forget about where a car is when there is soo many in a similar spot we will learn that during the season on which team made the best car that will take improvments.
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That's not what he said. On those tyres at that time they only had the margin to make Q2 with a perfect lap - you're inferring that he means the car on different tyres later on in the session wouldn't make it past there. He definitely didn't say that.
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That's exactly my point, which is why your post was strange. We have no clue where the cars are, other than perhaps the top 3. Though even with them there is still much room to interrupt.
As for Perez he said, he tried to set a banker lap, but the variation in conditions was moving so fast by the time he was setting up his perfect lap (that he really needed to get to Q2) he wasn't allowed dude to the double yellows. Thus a lap that would have (in his words) got them to q2 with some room, was taken from him. No where in there is there this hypothetical of "the car isn't good enough".
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Busy racing day. First GT Sport beta and now the real racers in Bahrein.
my prediction:
HAM-VET-VER
BOT-RIC collision (hopefully not but dreamt about it..)
my prediction:
HAM-VET-VER
BOT-RIC collision (hopefully not but dreamt about it..)
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Damnitn I want a beta invite already!
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This is fun
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Great start of our Max. What a difference vs the starts last season 
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This should be completely unacceptable for McLaren, not even being able to start a Grand Prix.
I thought things would get better, but they're getting worse. It's Honda's 4th year, and they're still the joke in F1...
I thought things would get better, but they're getting worse. It's Honda's 4th year, and they're still the joke in F1...
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The DRS zone needs to be longer if they want it to do anything.
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I don't think they need to change anything, for this track at least. Vettel is definitely close enough to take a lunge, he's just choosing not to.
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Indeed. Both Vettel and Hamilton are within a few tenths of each other.
We won't know how badly they suffer for another several laps yet.
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It should also be noted that Vettel keeps pulling out of the slipstream to cool off. Ham isn't... he's just hanging back.
I think it's obvious that Vettel-Hamilton-Verstappen all have a bit more in it than Bottas is doing now.
Very defensive from the Finn? Or just controlling the pace?
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Vettel onto the super softs. Perfect stop and perfect exit position, nice work by the Ferrari guys.
Edit:
I'd rather see the cars processional a bit, with "can he overtake, can't he overtake?" instead of cars breezing by on the straights.
Edit:
Maybe I shouldn't say "definitely close enough," but there was a few laps where it looked like he was in striking distance. Not during the beginning of the race maybe, full of fuel, but I think if Vettel really wanted to he could have had a go.
I'd rather see the cars processional a bit, with "can he overtake, can't he overtake?" instead of cars breezing by on the straights.
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No more Verstappen.
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what a bummer for Max....brake failure....
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