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congrats Lewis
it's fine to cut a corner to gain a place.
It's never fine to cut a corner.
I would think so,but based on the people defending Max,it must be legal to do so.
track limits should policed more strongly . But more importantly more consistently.
I ain't saying it's legal. I'm saying track extensions, cuts and off-track excursions happen all the time without penalty. Moment that springs to mind most is Vettel lap after lap extending boundaries after turn 2 into turn 3 at Sochi earlier this year to get a better run into 3
It was crazy awesome!Does anyone have a link to a gif of Carols's move around T19?
That was the best move I've seen all season and by far the best over-take at Austin
Yeah, I'm pretty disapointed, the r/formula1 subreddit has like 10 top page items on max's move, but Carlos's was not only on track, it was also more impressive...It was crazy awesome!
Too bad people are focusing on the drivers in front. F1 will be great if they canceled the first three teams
I reckon it's a F1 thing, when I was at the 2014 F1 race at SPA Francorchamps, the helicopter that was flying above us and filming, was also a yellow one. I was standing on the top of the banking hill on Kemmel straight.There's a yellow helicopter out here. I'm guessing this is the aerial chase camera, but I wonder if it's an F1 thing or a COTA thing.
Sainz went around the outside of Perez and neither went outside the white lines. If that was a battle at Montreal and Max took the position by cutting the last chicane, everyone would say he deserved a penalty. This is EXACTLY the same thing as that, which is why he was penalised with a penalty that just swapped the positions back.I should be carefull what i write right now cause i am pissed off like hell....
I just saw a video of Sainz do same overtake manouvre as the one Max did and no one penalised him....
The entire weekend people went off track and did not get a penalty...
I know the rules and yes Max cut the track a little...but isnt this the racing we all been longing to see for the last years and complain about the lack of real fights on the track??...
Its not that Max cut off a sector ...he was in an intense last lap fight for the podium and had to make sure theovertake was clean and didnt crash into Kimi....
Pfffff....yeah the rule is a rule...but how inconsistent are the stewards with this!!!!
If a rule is a rule Vettel should ha e been banned out of F1 for ramming into Lewis at Baku...
Anyway, great race with a sad political ending...
Oh...andlast thing...Bottas....who??? ;-)
Spy.
Funny to see already three similar great overtakes during this race (e.g. Sainz-Ocon, Ricciardo-Bottas) and no penalty (and that's good because that's racing).
All in all a great race to watch and a lot of action and even more after discussions. A developing soap story?
Was a great race to watch and some very nice moves by both Carlos and Max. I think it's fair to say now though that Vettel now has no chance at all anymore to win the championship. Lewis would have to get 3 DNF's I think, that's not going to happen.
As for the penalty for Max, yes he did leave the track with all 4 tyres but look closely and I think you'll see that what @Famine said is true. You can see that Kimi wants to turn in since he didn't expect Max on the inside. Max reacts to this and has to move a little bit more, causing him to drive over the curbstones with the full car. There was no room for Max to take that corner with all tyres on track, Kimi would've definately hit him.
And then there's this.
And many more drivers going wide or cutting the track without any warnings or penalties. Either give everyone who did it a penalty or let Max get away with it as well, just isn't fair now. And I know I'm Dutch so many people will say I'm biased but come on..
When Saints overtook Ocon, he did it on track. The image floating around of him in basically the same place Max is in was when he didn't make the move stick...
..I'm not in favour of what happened post-race, but you can't try to make false comparisons (assuming thats what you meant) to bolster any stance
Was a great race to watch and some very nice moves by both Carlos and Max. I think it's fair to say now though that Vettel now has no chance at all anymore to win the championship. Lewis would have to get 3 DNF's I think, that's not going to happen.
As for the penalty for Max, yes he did leave the track with all 4 tyres but look closely and I think you'll see that what @Famine said is true. You can see that Kimi wants to turn in since he didn't expect Max on the inside. Max reacts to this and has to move a little bit more, causing him to drive over the curbstones with the full car. There was no room for Max to take that corner with all tyres on track, Kimi would've definately hit him.
And then there's this.
And many more drivers going wide or cutting the track without any warnings or penalties. Either give everyone who did it a penalty or let Max get away with it as well, just isn't fair now. And I know I'm Dutch so many people will say I'm biased but come on..
@Leadfoot530, there's many more examples from other drivers who did gain an advantage. Like when Bottas was ahead of Max again by running wide after Max overtook him. Or Vettel's overtake on Bottas, also going off track right in front of Vandoorne. Or if you'd like to take a look at the whole weekend, in qualifying pretty much everyone and their mother was cutting the track and going wide. Where are the penalties for all those instances? Why only give one to Max?
And again, watch the video closely. It's not fully intentional, it's partly because he has to avoid getting hit by Kimi.