2017 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars

[Furinkazen]

LMP3 drinking game please.

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[trustjab]

Red Bull Ring to host wec? Motorsport-total has an interview with Red Bull and they want to use the old Osterreichring for the layout instead of the current layout F1 uses.

 

[twitcher]

The current track is being expanded to follow the old layout. Here's some pictures from a while back.

Seems the A1 Ring may be getting modifications to follow the old layout.

Obviously it's unclear at this stage just how much they are re-adding, or if it would be used for F1.

WEC at the RBR. Sounds good to me . With the new expansion of the track, it should be a really good fit. The cars will look spectacular on that track.

 

[fortbo]

The "successor to the 911" and not the new 911.

I really don't like those headlights...

 

[wowbaggerBR]

Red Bull Ring to host wec? Motorsport-total has an interview with Red Bull and they want to use the old Osterreichring for the layout instead of the current layout F1 uses.

This would be as cool as rebuilding the old Hockenheim just for endurance races (that track was simply perfect to host WEC and ELMS).

 

[Kamuifanboy]

The current track is being expanded to follow the old layout. Here's some pictures from a while back.



WEC at the RBR. Sounds good to me . With the new expansion of the track, it should be a really good fit. The cars will look spectacular on that track.

This would be as cool as rebuilding the old Hockenheim just for endurance races (that track was simply perfect to host WEC and ELMS).

I like the look of that. And the sound of the old Hockenheim ring coming back?

 

[trustjab]

WEC at Indy? Racer.com has a write up on that subject.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

WEC at Indy? Racer.com has a write up on that subject.

Hopefully not. I would much rather see WEC at Sebring if there was to be another US location.

Two circuits I think would be good for WEC, although hugely unlikely to happen, are Istanbul and Korea.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Why would they be good. Nobody went to them as F1 races, what makes you think WEC would get people there?

If it Asia then Sepang would be more likely. As for a second race in the US, I'd go for Road America every single time.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Why would they be good? Nobody went to them as F1 races, what makes you think WEC would get people there?

If it Asia then Sepang would be more likely. As for a second race in the US, I'd go for Road America every single time.

I think they be good for the racing and they are highly unlikely because of what would be crap attendance numbers.

 

[Bram Turismo]

Why not Sebring?

Honestly, I miss the 12 hours of Sebring as the intro of the WEC season.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Why not Sebring?

Honestly, I miss the 12 hours of Sebring as the intro of the WEC season.

So do I. The WEC season starts too late. It needs a race in March.

 

[TDZdave]

With Le Mans coming up, have any teams pulled out??

Or better yet, have enough teams pulled out to get the Viper in?

 

[IforceV8]

With Le Mans coming up, have any teams pulled out??

Or better yet, have enough teams pulled out to get the Viper in?

The Viper team have rented a P2 for the race. http://sportscar365.com/lemans/lemans24/murphy-prototypes-unloads-with-gas-monkey-colors/

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

With Le Mans coming up, have any teams pulled out??

Or better yet, have enough teams pulled out to get the Viper in?

Viper was pulled from the list months ago.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

WEC at Indy? Racer.com has a write up on that subject.

On the oval? Sure. On the F1/Indy track, please no.

 

[Brutaka]

Why not Sebring?

Honestly, I miss the 12 hours of Sebring as the intro of the WEC season.

IMSA is not gonna give up Sebring, Its historically speaking their most important race of the calendar.

 

[Snaeper]

As stated, the Sebring 12 hours is not likely to budge. ISC has the lease to Sebring and is calling the shots in that regard.

Florida has a pretty narrow window for racing due to the weather which would put a WEC standalone event at the track too close to the 12 to benefit either series. Maybe if the WEC became a winter series it could happen, as a late october or early november date could give enough cusion between them, but thats still close to another Florida endurance event...

 

[Tired Tyres]

Winter series is a total non starter for timezone reasons for their core market which is Europe.

Series still starts too late though. I'd run Bahrain as the first round in march and then go to Monza (or mugello, it's a much better track) in April. Then Spa in May ahead of Le Mans in June. Silverstone in July then Nurburgring in August. After that the far east fly aways then finish the season with the American fly aways, preferably finishing in Brazil.

 

[Furinkazen]

The Ave (nee Riley) LMP3. One of these (could even be this chassis) due to appear in the hands of Murphy Prototypes in ELMS later in the year.

 

[RACECAR]

Is that..Virginia International Raceway they are at?

 

[IforceV8]

Is that..Virginia International Raceway they are at?

I think that is Carolina Motorsports Park
http://www.carolinamotorsportspark.com/day-garages--camping.html

 

[catamount39]

LMP3 is a nice class, and that's an even nicer car. Love that thunderous Nissan V8 those things use.

 

[JohnBM01]

I like that Ave LMP3. Quite slick prototype there.

 

[trustjab]

I think it's average looking. Not really a fan of lmp3 as they just get in the way of the GTE class races. I think they need to be run by themselves or something. More like a stepping stone to lmp2 or lmp1, not a class that clutters up ACO style endurance races with the slow AM drivers.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Ssssh no one tell him that LMP2 is for AM drivers.

 

[trustjab]

Ssssh no one tell him that LMP2 is for AM drivers.

Am drivers that can do 3:37's at LM. Meanwhile the lmp3 am's can't keep pace with GTE. Truth hurts, I know.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Fastest lap for an LMP3 at Paul Ricard 1:53.364 GTE 1:57.252

Fastest laps at silverstone
LMP3 1:55.817 GTE 2:01.241

Fastest laps at imola
LMP3 1:40.019 GTE 1:41.876

Truth hurts, I know.

 

[Snaeper]

Every time I click "Show Ignored Content", I'm reminded as to why I ignored that content in the first place.

Alas, curiosity kills the cat every now and then.

Keeping on topic: Comparing fastest laps is quite possibly some of the most useless, most anecdotal evidence one could possibly assemble. Especially when the classes in question also feature Pro drivers, which, since you didnt specify, we'll safely assume were behind the wheel to set those laps.

Average lap times would be much more useful, especially when the average exclusively comes from the Am drivers. And if more than one LMP3 falls into a range below GTE, then trustjabs point is more than justified.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Every time I click "Show Ignored Content", I'm reminded as to why I ignored that content in the first place.

Alas, curiosity kills the cat every now and then.

Keeping on topic: Comparing fastest laps is quite possibly some of the most useless, most anecdotal evidence one could possibly assemble. Especially when the classes in question also feature Pro drivers, which, since you didnt specify, we'll safely assume were behind the wheel to set those laps.

Average lap times would be much more useful, especially when the average exclusively comes from the Am drivers. And if more than one LMP3 falls into a range below GTE, then trustjabs point is more than justified.

Well with that argument it would be like comparing the bykolles to a motorised wheel chair.....

Actually that might be unfair to the motorised wheel chair.