2017 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars

[IforceV8]

News at Le Mans but most of it is about the future. http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/06/12/le-mans-24-hours-notes-from-sunday-scrutineering-1.html

Catsburg in the Labre for the WEC is a good idea.

Greg Murphy mentioned Oreca, Oak, and Dallara but left out that Bill Riley is running his car at Le Mans for Keating. Maybe he is just getting all of the free coffee/meals he can get before buying the new Riley/Multimatic.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

IMSA is not gonna give up Sebring, Its historically speaking their most important race of the calendar.

Really? I don't see how when Daytona usually makes more headlines and Petit is just as important

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Toyota's Pascal Vasselon confirms the team have started work on both the 2017 and 2018 cars.

Ryo Hirakawa, of TDS in LMP2, has tested the TS050 as a test driver with more planned. He could be getting lined up to replace Sarrazin.

 

[Brutaka]

Really? I don't see how when Daytona usually makes more headlines and Petit is just as important

That's why I said historically speaking, since the Sebring 12hr has been around longer and is probably more internationally known than the Daytona 24 is.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

That's why I said historically speaking, since the Sebring 12hr has been around longer and is probably more internationally known than the Daytona 24 is.

No it's not, cause internationally speaking the 24h race at Daytona has been around for ages, since the 60s. And is considered a part of the triple crown of American endurance racing and international endurance racing. I only comment as I do cause I feel you under estimate how Daytona's 24h race has permeated itself in history. The problem is that in today's world it purposely gets isolated for American racing only but you still have plenty of international racers making their way to try and win the race each year.

Historically speaking they're on the same grounds.

 

[TDZdave]

When is qualifying for Le Mans?

 

[IforceV8]

When is qualifying for Le Mans?

1st Q session is 6hr 5 min from now.

 

[CodeRedR51]

 

[Kingofweasles]

New Mazda paint for the next IMSA race?

 

[catamount39]

OH MY GOD YES!

 

[trustjab]

Audi to get a slight fuel boost post-LM.

 

[Kamuifanboy]

As sad as that finish for Toyota was. And as shocked as they may have been. I really struggle how they forgot about the big picture. Championship. They lost 2nd place points there. That could be important for that 5 car. Don't see why they didn't tell Kazuki to stop before the finish line and wait a lap for the 2 car to come around. Or had the 6 car push them to the finish. Would have finished 2nd either way.

 

[Hun200kmh]

If they had stopped before the fininsh line their lap would be over 6 minutes anyway.

 

[Kamuifanboy]

If they had stopped before the fininsh line their lap would be over 6 minutes anyway.

Is there a rule that you can't have a lap over 6 minutes during the race? Didn't think there was as there's plenty of off tracks and such where cars would sit there for 8-10 minutes at times and weren't de-classified. When Kazuki parked on the front straight on the final lap. Couldn't he have just parked around the ford chicanes and just waited 3 minutes and 40 seconds or so for the Porsche to complete the final lap and then go? That's still legal to my understanding.

 

[IforceV8]

Is there a rule that you can't have a lap over 6 minutes during the race? Didn't think there was as there's plenty of off tracks and such where cars would sit there for 8-10 minutes at times and weren't de-classified. When Kazuki parked on the front straight on the final lap. Couldn't he have just parked around the ford chicanes and just waited 3 minutes and 40 seconds or so for the Porsche to complete the final lap and then go? That's still legal to my understanding.

The last lap is were that rule applies.

 

[Kamuifanboy]

The last lap is were that rule applies.

That is what I thought. So then my idea should work and then Toyota get 2nd and 3rd rather than 2nd and DNF.

 

[IforceV8]

That is what I thought. So then my idea should work and then Toyota get 2nd and 3rd rather than 2nd and DNF.

Where is Trussers when we need him to find the rule. Maybe next Toyota will have a "Oh ****" contingency plan mounted on the wall in the garage behind glass that they can run and break into if this ever happens again.

EDIT: The rule could be written to say that the "cars" final lap is under 6 min meaning that even if they parked the car they time would have counted over 6 min anyway.

Toyota 5
lap 383 4:36.370
lap 384 11:53.815

Porsche 2
lap 384 3:59.483

They still would have been over.

 

[GTPorsche]

Yes, it's not the actual final lap of the race, it's the car's final lap of the race that can't exceed that time.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Ferrari will run an LMP1 prototype in 2017

Was this posted somewhere?

 

[Northstar]

I'll believe it when it's on the grid.

 

[Furinkazen]

Ferrari will run an LMP1 prototype in 2017

Was this posted somewhere?

That to me sounds like a Glickenhaus "let's use some spare parts" programme.

 

[Panoz]

The tweet from the Autoblog article but then his next tweet...



I don't even think Scuderia Corsa have the resources to run a LMP-1 team without looking like ByKolles.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

The tweet from the Autoblog article but then his next tweet...



I don't even think Scuderia Corsa have the resources to run a LMP-1 team without looking like ByKolles.

Hopefully it's a proper manufacture programme.

 

[CodeRedR51]

The tweet from the Autoblog article but then his next tweet...



I don't even think Scuderia Corsa have the resources to run a LMP-1 team without looking like ByKolles.

Not surprising to see AutoBlog not do their research before posting.

 

[Bo]

ACO given handy system to remind them how to stop the Ford from being OP.

 

[catamount39]

Ferrari will run an LMP1 prototype in 2017

Was this posted somewhere?

 

[Hun200kmh]

Wishful thinking again. Enzo Ferrari made a choice in 1971 (he had to). And that choice favoured his greatest and oldest love: F1. The reasons behind that decision are still valid, so ... move on, nothing to see here

 

[Snaeper]

Not surprising to see AutoBlog not do their research before posting.

Surprised it was Brandon Turkus that posted it. Noah Joseph is usually the one that types out motorsports garbage.

He wrote an article about the LMP2 rules after they were announced that was one of the worst things I've ever read. I hope they don't call themselves journalists... and I really can't understand why I don't stop reading them.

 

[IforceV8]

On to the next round in Germany in July.

 

[Furinkazen]

Three years today