2017 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars

[IforceV8]

Porsche and Aston get some BOP help but will it matter at this point? http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...-breaks-no-change-to-ford-for-6h-nurburgring/

 

[Kamuifanboy]

Well the Ferrari 488 GT3 can be turned into a GTE with a kit from Ferrari that's purchasable by 488 GT3 owners, meaning you could run the 24 Hours of Le Mans then the 24 Hours of Spa with the same car basically.

The Porsche is the same deal this year apparently, but its extremely uncompetitive in both categories most of the time,

Have a look at the new R8 and Huracán GT3 as well. They have roof hatches in the top

 

[catamount39]

Have a look at the new R8 and Huracán GT3 as well. They have roof hatches in the top

Hmm...reminds me of (could be completely off the wall, I mean the hatches are a much needed safety thing, and the Audi apparently was put through LMP1 crash tests) that weird thing Scott Pruett said during the Fox broadcast of the LM24 about how GTE and GT3 were going to become very similar or near identical by 2018 or something.

 

[IforceV8]

Corvette in GTE-Pro also received a -20kg weight loss and +.1 mm restrictor increase. I have to think that Fehan must have made it clear to the FIA that they were planning on going to a BBQ after the Imsa race at COTA instead of entering a car in the WEC race?

 

[IforceV8]

 

[Snaeper]

BMW build a car conforming to ACO regs? Be a first...

But they do touch on that in the article. The Z4 was meant as a stop gap, the M6 was not, but became one after the GT merger talks broke down.

 

[catamount39]

So I'm guessing they wanted a M6 GTE from the start but got confused by the GT reg talks?

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

But they do touch on that in the article. The Z4 was meant as a stop gap, the M6 was not, but became one after the GT merger talks broke down.

That car didn't conform to aco regs.

 

[RACECAR]

That car didn't conform to aco regs.

Pretty sure it must've to have raced in the 24 Hours itself.

 

[Roo]

Pretty sure it must've to have raced in the 24 Hours itself.

Just because it got a waiver doesn't mean it conformed to the regulations, much like the Ford this year.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Pretty sure it must've to have raced in the 24 Hours itself.

Why do you think the aco told them to bugger off and then not allow it back or the Z4 GTE to enter?

 

[IforceV8]

Class leading Ferrari just took out the race overall leader-that's worth a double.

 

[Tired Tyres]

With a strong chance the Ferrari is not at fault. Alert your local hospital.

 

[IforceV8]

I know the mirrors on the 458 are just there for decoration but it would be good if the car that is being lapped had a clue what was going on.

 

[Tired Tyres]

It would help if the car doing the lapping when for a realistic gap mate. #23 officially blamed for that incident.

 

[IforceV8]

There is no doubt that it was a aggressive move but that is the race leader with P2 .5 sec back and that Ferrari was under no threat from any other GTE car, loosen up the wheel and run a wider exit instead of ignoring blue flags and chopping the leader.

I have no doubt Freitas made the wrong call, he has a hard time telling sunshine from rain most of the time.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

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I know the mirrors on the 458 are just there for decoration but it would be good if the car that is being lapped had a clue what was going on.

There is no doubt that it was a aggressive move but that is the race leader with P2 .5 sec back and that Ferrari was under no threat from any other GTE car, loosen up the wheel and run a wider exit instead of ignoring blue flags and chopping the leader.

I have no doubt Freitas made the wrong call, he has a hard time telling sunshine from rain most of the time.

As per the rules, the slower car must hold its racing line, it's down to the car behind to make sure it is safe to overtake and complete the over take safely.

 

[IforceV8]

As per the rules, the slower car must hold its racing line, it's down to the car behind to make sure it is safe to overtake and complete the over take safely.

Unless you are passing a 458 then take the escape road or runoff area because that guy will likely change his mind mid corner.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Unless you are passing a 458 then take the escape road or runoff area because that guy will likely change his mind mid corner.

No that's not in the sporting regulations.

 

[IforceV8]

Oh look another 458

 

[Tired Tyres]

Another Ferrari spin and this time it is on the Ferrari.

Must visit shop. Further liquid refreshment required.

 

[catamount39]

It's good to know Ferrari GT's are being driven properly again.

 

[IforceV8]

Since Capt. spinalot has taken over the 40 car they have lost 6 laps.

That 21 Oreca is for sale but just ignore that crash into the pit exit wall.

 

[RACECAR]

Why do you think the aco told them to bugger off and then not allow it back or the Z4 GTE to enter?

BMW weren't gonna enter the Z4 anyway, it was a "Stop gap" anyhow so it was already decided it wasn't racing at le mans.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

BMW weren't gonna enter the Z4 anyway, it was a "Stop gap" anyhow so it was already decided it wasn't racing at le mans.

Lol it wasn't supposed to race it at Le Mans?! BMW tried to enter it in Le Mans and where told where to go by the ACO

Also the Z4 was just like the M6 a GT3 car

 

[RACECAR]

Lol it wasn't supposed to race it at Le Mans?! BMW tried to enter it in Le Mans and where told where to go by the ACO

That's what they said, not me.

Also the Z4 was just like the M6 a GT3 car

Well duh, what makes you think I didn't know that? I pretty much pointed out years out it was a modified GT3 car.

Also, I'm subscribed to DRIVE so you're not showing me anything new

 

[catamount39]

At least with the Z4 GTE they tried to make it different with the aero and different wing. The M6 is literally the GT3 but with a different tire setup and no canards.

 

[RACECAR]

At least with the Z4 GTE they tried to make it different with the aero and different wing. The M6 is literally the GT3 but with a different tire setup and no canards.

That's because with the Z4, they modified a car that wasn't compliant with ALMS GT rules anyway so they had to make it different. As mentioned in the Article, the M6 was made with the GT convergence in mind while it was still in talks before those broke down, hence why there barely is much difference between the M6 GT3 amd M6 GTLM.

 

[catamount39]

That's because with the Z4, they modified a car that wasn't compliant with ALMS GT rules anyway so they had to make it different. As mentioned in the Article, the M6 was made with the GT convergence in mind while it was still in talks before those broke down, hence why there barely is much difference between the M6 GT3 amd M6 GTLM.

And its then that I remind myself the 488 GTE and GT3 are also very similar, as well as the Porsche 911's.

 

[RACECAR]

It wouldn't surprise me if Ferrari also had the GT Convergence in mind as well.