2017 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars 

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I am watching the FIA WEC race at the Nürburgring. That Ford GT sounds very fierce. Lot of work being done to the #6 Toyota TS050 Hybrid in the garage.
 
Watching the Ford chase the Aston onboard reminds me of watching a P2 car struggling to pass a DP. The Aston gains 3 car lengths on every straight.
 
I'm surprised to hear Hindy embracing dirty driving by Duval forcing another car off the track considering the amount of time he spends standing on a soapbox. If Yacaman had done that same move he would have been screaming.
 
I saw most of the 2nd Half of this round at the Nürburgring. It was so not a cool moment seeing Porsche-on-Porsche violence when that one Porsche Hybrid took out a GT Porsche to force a Full Course Yellow. This was a good race for the most part. I hear the next race of the FIA World Endurance Championship is in about five weeks in Mexico.

I still feel like I have missed out on sportscar racing from the mid-late 1990s, but I do think it has great seeing just how far sportscar racing has come between when I started seeing these events in 1999 with the former American Le Mans Series, to my first Le Mans live in 2001, and up to now. I've loved sportscar racing just about all my life as a racing fan. The action and names are much different now compared to then. But despite this, the action is still great to watch.


Having said all of this, congratulations to the winners overall and in each class from the FIA WEC race at the Nürburgring.
 
Except from an environmental point of view, diesel has no place in motorsports.
Erm what about for mileage??? Which is kind of super important in endurance racing... The R10 could drive a hell of a lot longer than its petrol powered rivals on similar tank sizes. Diesel should be the fuel of endurance racing as it allows more mileage per tank, hence decreasing the amount of fuel stops in a long race...
 
Except from an environmental point of view, diesel has no place in motorsports.
Neither does gasoline if you are looking at it that way. If they have a superior fuel or superior technology that is within the bop, the others should have to catch up to it. The car with the superior technology should not be nerfed down to the level of the other cars.
 
Erm what about for mileage??? Which is kind of super important in endurance racing... The R10 could drive a hell of a lot longer than its petrol powered rivals on similar tank sizes. Diesel should be the fuel of endurance racing as it allows more mileage per tank, hence decreasing the amount of fuel stops in a long race...

Mileage =\= eco-friendly.

Choosing between petrol or diesel is choosing a lesser evil, which is petrol. You will find that, yes, diesel offers better mileage. But diesel also emits more hazardous particles than petrol engines do. So you may be running longer on a tank of fuel, but you are actually not being any more generous towards nature.

Environmental issues with engines go way beyond mileage, what do you think is all the fuzz around VW about?
 
Mileage =\= eco-friendly.

Choosing between petrol or diesel is choosing a lesser evil, which is petrol. You will find that, yes, diesel offers better mileage. But diesel also emits more hazardous particles than petrol engines do. So you may be running longer on a tank of fuel, but you are actually not being any more generous towards nature.

Environmental issues with engines go way beyond mileage...
This is auto racing we are talking about. None of the cars have any sort of catalytic converters. Both are emitting dangerous chemicals, but only over a short period of time. We aren't talking about everyday road cars here.
 
This is auto racing we are talking about. None of the cars have any sort of catalytic converters. Both are emitting dangerous chemicals, but only over a short period of time. We aren't talking about everyday road cars here.
Exactly. On a side note out of the argument, I'd have liked to see a proper hybrid vs straight diesel rivalry. That would have been interesting.

Though that's prototype. In GT I just want big engines and loud noises with good looking supercars and sportscars. :P
 
This is auto racing we are talking about. None of the cars have any sort of catalytic converters. Both are emitting dangerous chemicals, but only over a short period of time. We aren't talking about everyday road cars here.
Seeing the monumental amounts of money gone into LMP1 projects, motorsport is EXACTLY the place where next-gen technologies should be born.

If you think the world of motorsports will not answer to the problems the road-car industry is racing, you are just being naive.
 
Mileage =\= eco-friendly.

Choosing between petrol or diesel is choosing a lesser evil, which is petrol. You will find that, yes, diesel offers better mileage. But diesel also emits more hazardous particles than petrol engines do. So you may be running longer on a tank of fuel, but you are actually not being any more generous towards nature.

Environmental issues with engines go way beyond mileage, what do you think is all the fuzz around VW about?
Never said eco friendly... Just said it allows more miles per tank, which is better for endurance racing...
 
Seeing the monumental amounts of money gone into LMP1 projects, motorsport is EXACTLY the place where next-gen technologies should be born.

If you think the world of motorsports will not answer to the problems the road-car industry is racing, you are just being naive.
I never said that...:odd:
 
I never said that...:odd:

It wasn't pointed directly at you, I think it's just something we all have to live with in due time. As much as I love the smell of high octane fuel, somewhere down the line it'll be a thing of the past.

And it doesn't need to make motorsports any more boring either. I mean, in the almost 20 years I've watched Le Mans, I've never seen anything with 1200hp lap the track this fast.
 
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