2018 Azerbaijan Grand PrixFormula 1 

I'm not liking the idea that the safety car influences the outcome of the race very strongly. It's not fair to the leaders. I guess vsc thru the pit lane would have been enough to recovers the bulls. Also Max is getting ridiculously too bad with his driving.

Last race perhaps, Australia nope, that was Mercedes fault. This race nothing anyone could do. You essentially had two cautions at different portions of the track on that last SC.
 
What an absolute tool. Hahahahahahah
And he blames Ericsson .
It wasn't Grosjean who mentioned Ericsson in the radio.
"I think Ericsson hit us" is his engineer answer, not Grosjean's message.
I don't know why i read so much messages (here and on reddit) blaming Grosjean for having blamed Ericsson, which he haven't (in the first place, at least).
 
While I don't think Verstappen was entirely to blame for the RB collision today, it was very apparent how more aggressive he is than Ricciardo - Max is very lucky not to have taken them both out earlier in the race. Verstappen gives absolutely no quarter - even to his team mate, and that is going to be (is already) a major headache for the team.

Hah! That's cute. At this pace, he's going to enjoy a nice summer on the Riviera Romagnola.

It wasn't Grosjean who mentioned Ericsson in the radio.
"I think Ericsson hit us" is his engineer answer, not Grosjean's message.
I don't know why i read so much messages (here and on reddit) blaming Grosjean for having blamed Ericsson, which he haven't (in the first place, at least).

Oh? It sounded like Romain, I swear. Perhaps many people don't find too hard to believe that it was him because he's got a bit of a rep as a nagger (it's not my business to say if deserved or not, but he sure seems more, huh, chatty than other drivers at times).
 
I'm not saying Max didn't go back to the left but it was more of a slight veer than a direct door closing. Ricciardo could have committed to staying right and tried to overtake on the outside. Blame on both sides for being over-aggressive but there are ways it could have been avoided
 
So... Perez is under investigation for illegal use of DRS then.
 
It wasn't Grosjean who mentioned Ericsson in the radio.
"I think Ericsson hit us" is his engineer answer, not Grosjean's message.
I don't know why i read so much messages (here and on reddit) blaming Grosjean for having blamed Ericsson, which he haven't (in the first place, at least).

Well, they just showed another replay of his skilfull parking and I am still fairly positive that it was Grosjean who said it.
 
I'm not liking the idea that the safety car influences the outcome of the race very strongly. It's not fair to the leaders. I guess vsc thru the pit lane would have been enough to recovers the bulls. Also Max is getting ridiculously too bad with his driving.

You never want to take the risk with cars being in the direct firing line like they were in the run off. Even at the speeds they travel under VSC you never know what could happen. As shown by Grosjean, anything can happen, and even at a low speed, accidents can be quite big.
 
I'm not saying Max didn't go back to the left but it was more of a slight veer than a direct door closing. Ricciardo could have committed to staying right and tried to overtake on the outside. Blame on both sides for being over-aggressive but there are ways it could have been avoided

Why? That's a classic move of cutting under, he had the speed far over Max to do that. If he stayed right he would have again been pushed out as he had been several times. Max should have given the room, acknowledged the speed between both cars and this probably wouldn't be a talking point. Daniel gave room all day long, and yet Max wants to claim he played it just as fair too...he didn't.
 
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Max's fault, would've been an absolutely on the limit block pass at the apex if Ricc had made it.

As it was, Ricc lost DF as Max moved in front and Ricc locked up from that lack of DF which caused the collision, after Maxs' double move in the braking zone antics - he's done this before and this time it has caused a collision.

Good, on the edge, battling otherwise though.
 
Where is that? Can't find anything official yet from the FIA or FOM on this
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Wait what? Not what I've heard :/

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/130490/baku-wants-2019-june-date-despite-18-change

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Formula_One_World_Championship

So unless you know something that no one else does your simply talking...... :D

First of the Wiki page is always being updated before the season actually starts. Also it says that they have yet to extend their contract, thus until they do, for not it's the last race in Baku. Also saw the Dutch reporting too.
 
I don't mind having more races in the US or that part of the world. Moves the races to the evening for us. And that's always better than midday Sunday.
 
Wasn't countless, was far from it. Race ban was due to championship implications, there is an FIA statement that proves this. You trying to make an alternative to prove that Max isn't dangerous is false conjectures.



Yes Roman did, in his time between the incident that got his race ban and the start of the season he had 76 points. He was sixth in the WDC, had 3 podiums, was behind his WDC team mate and do pretty good for his first year. Especially in a very competitive 2012 season where anyone in 5 or 6 teams racing could win or get podiums. He was not bad at all.

As of the time of me quoting you and making this, Verstappen caused two moves when he wasn't allowed and thus incident destroy both him and his team mate.
False conjectures, is that a thing? Yeah it did, I’m sure I mentioned that, maybe I should have made that more clear? But the nature of the incident also contributed, he constantly caused dangerous situations at the start of races... that being the worst.
Roman showed promise but he constantly got in the way of other drivers, when I sit down I’ll have a look and pull up some examples.

Max is an exceptional driver who has driven poorly this season. But it’s not on the level Roman was at. In fact the only contemporary comparison I can think off is Lewis and Masa in 2011. They constantly managed to crash into each other as they both had horrible seasons. No one was calling for Masa or Lewis to have a race ban and Lewis at that point was a World Champion, so he had no excuse.

And yeah haha I watched live too, but he was allowed to make the moves? He shouldn’t have, but he was allowed... only thing that was the issue (from what I can remember of the race) was the crash where he moved just before the breaking after Dan had committed. But he just raced against his team mate hard in the other moves, not great for the team but good for us.

Like, I’m not defending Max because I think he’s the new Senna, I’m not a Max fan in much of anyway. He’s had a horrible season due entirely to himself. But the idea of him being given a race ban just seems silly. He’ll calm down and mature, or he won’t and get dropped.




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What a race tho! Man as a Lewis fan that was a bloody emotional race
 
False conjectures, is that a thing? Yeah it did, I’m sure I mentioned that, maybe I should have made that more clear? But the nature of the incident also contributed, he constantly caused dangerous situations at the start of races... that being the worst.
Roman showed promise but he constantly got in the way of other drivers, when I sit down I’ll have a look and pull up some examples.

Prove this.

Max is an exceptional driver who has driven poorly this season. But it’s not on the level Roman was at. In fact the only contemporary comparison I can think off is Lewis and Masa in 2011. They constantly managed to crash into each other as they both had horrible seasons. No one was calling for Masa or Lewis to have a race ban and Lewis at that point was a World Champion, so he had no excuse.

No one here is calling for a race ban (at least not me ) on Max. What I'm saying is your example to defend Max is bad, and not the way you've tried to explain it.

And yeah haha I watched live too, but he was allowed to make the moves? He shouldn’t have, but he was allowed... only thing that was the issue (from what I can remember of the race) was the crash where he moved just before the breaking after Dan had committed. But he just raced against his team mate hard in the other moves, not great for the team but good for us.

So risking damage or ending of races for people as you used as your stipulation for why Grosjean was worse and supposedly deserved his ban...now doesn't count. It'd be easier for you to say you're a Verstappen fan and then I'll just walk away having learned to know better for next time you defend him. Dan committed cause he expected to get room like he'd given all race again.

Like, I’m not defending Max because I think he’s the new Senna, I’m not a Max fan in much of anyway. He’s had a horrible season due entirely to himself. But the idea of him being given a race ban just seems silly. He’ll calm down and mature, or he won’t and get dropped.

No where did I say you were, or ever thought this. I could make the same argument again that Grosjean didn't deserve it and probably would have learned to hone his awareness after that race anyways, after seeing how bad the wreck was.
I don't mind having more races in the US or that part of the world. Moves the races to the evening for us. And that's always better than midday Sunday.

If they plan to do it I just hope it's as good as this track has been, with the insanity it provides.
 
I guess we've already seen both Daniel and Max already went off track this weekend?



PS Makes me curious if and what the next 'social event' in Barcelona will bring us
 
First penalties coming in : Sirotkin grid penalty in Barcelona as a result of the incident with Perez at Baku

And to be honest. My brains do not remember the incident itself anymore . Happened so much during this race and the Heineken has some impact.
 
Oh? It sounded like Romain, I swear. Perhaps many people don't find too hard to believe that it was him because he's got a bit of a rep as a nagger (it's not my business to say if deserved or not, but he sure seems more, huh, chatty than other drivers at times).

Well, they just showed another replay of his skilfull parking and I am still fairly positive that it was Grosjean who said it.
- This was answering the question that Grosjean just asked.
- That wasn't the same voice.
- That wasn't the same mood in the voice
- It refers to Grosjean as "us", which he never does.

Or i'm wrong and Grosjean has two people in his head. :lol:
Oh, that's scary...
 
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