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Grosjean and Magnussen are both well past their best so I'm good with that. Assuming Kimi retires then Ilott, Schumacher and Shwartzmann will probably all have seats next year.
 
I think k mag could do well in a decent car. Neither driver is comfortable in that Haas. Its pretty much a turd.

Maybe they should pull a Racing team Nederland.

Switch chassis from Dallara to Oreca. What do they have to lose at this point.

Can you imagine how unimpressed suck my balls would be with Perez driving into him all the time lol
 
SlowGrayAudi
I think k mag could do well in a decent car. Neither driver is comfortable in that Haas. Its pretty much a turd.

Maybe they should pull a Racing team Nederland.

Switch chassis from Dallara to Oreca. What do they have to lose at this point.

Can you imagine how unimpressed suck my balls would be with Perez driving into him all the time lol
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Magnusson had a shot in a decent car and had one good result which he inherited anyway.
 
MagpieRacer
As far as I know he does yeah. Be interesting to see who the envisage parntnering him if they plan to drop both drivers.
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Perez and Hulkenberg would be two eager, veteran drivers. Whether Hulk will accept what would definitely be his final years in a nowhere car seems unlikely, though.

Isn't basically anything an upgrade from Magnussen/Grosjean, though? When you're trying to develop a car, you need drivers who won't force the issue. Magnussen always seems to push whether the car will accept it or not and some of Grosjean's decision making is head scratching. I can't imagine their driving styles helped much trying to unravel the mystery of last year's quick-in-quali, snail in the race car.
 
Haas in general did really well to hit the ground running as a points scoring team in their debut season but it's as though they stagnated immediately.

I don't think it's just drivers that the team needs to shake up bur Sergio Perez would be somewhat of a coup for them and a step up over their current line-up.
 
An image in the Autosport article about Ferrari Juniors in FP1 looks a lot like the Ferrari mechanics have arrested Schumacher.

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Liquid
Haas in general did really well to hit the ground running as a points scoring team in their debut season but it's as though they stagnated immediately.

I don't think it's just drivers that the team needs to shake up bur Sergio Perez would be somewhat of a coup for them and a step up over their current line-up.
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If nothing else, Perez would probably be a lot better at giving them useful feedback about what parts of the car need the most work. Or any kind of feedback that's not pointless moaning or "Sorry, I binned it".
 
Asking as someone who hasn't watched anything but Suzuka for over half a decade, so looking for more perspective from those who follow more closely: Is Hamilton as much of a douche (uh, still) as he appears to be in the news articles that keep showing up in my Google feed about him?


I was like whatever when I saw his name come up in BLM stuff over the summer, but a few weeks ago he was doing some preachy "I only drive subcompact electric cars because driving my extensive supercar collection hurts the children" grandstanding, and today a story popped up with him alleging some elaborate FIA conspiracy to apparently prevent him from ever winning another race so as to not pass Michael.
 
Tornado
I was like whatever when I saw his name come up in BLM stuff over the summer, but a few weeks ago he was doing some preachy "I only drive subcompact electric cars because driving my extensive supercar collection hurts the children" grandstanding, and today a story popped up with him alleging some elaborate FIA conspiracy to apparently prevent him from ever winning another race so as to not pass Michael.
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That's just Hamilton looking for a scapegoat.
 
Surely Albon doesn't keep the seat, it's not helping him as a driver either being under this much pressure, Personally would be better to drop Kyvat and put Albon there and then Hire Hulk or Perez for the 2nd Redbull.

Hulk has really proven his adaptability this year as well I would bet he wouldn't embarrass himself in that car.
 
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Nobody's getting a fair chance at Red Bull unless they get the same resources Verstappen does.
 
Liquid
Nobody's getting a fair chance at Red Bull unless they get the same resources Verstappen does.
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No second driver at Team Lotus got a fair chance for about a decade until Chapman came into serious money. Poor Jimmy Clark once had to win 4 races in a row on the same set of tires. Chapman was so tight he squeaked. Somehow I doubt Red Bull racing is a serious business as much as it is a boutique for a few rich men to indulge their fantasies.
 
mustafur
Surely Albon doesn't keep the seat, it's not helping him as a driver either being under this much pressure, Personally would be better to drop Kyvat and put Albon there and then Hire Hulk or Perez for the 2nd Redbull.

Hulk has really proven his adaptability this year as well I would bet he wouldn't embarrass himself in that car.
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This will probably indeed happen. Hulk & Max in one team.
 
Tornado
Asking as someone who hasn't watched anything but Suzuka for over half a decade, so looking for more perspective from those who follow more closely: Is Hamilton as much of a douche (uh, still) as he appears to be in the news articles that keep showing up in my Google feed about him?


I was like whatever when I saw his name come up in BLM stuff over the summer, but a few weeks ago he was doing some preachy "I only drive subcompact electric cars because driving my extensive supercar collection hurts the children" grandstanding, and today a story popped up with him alleging some elaborate FIA conspiracy to apparently prevent him from ever winning another race so as to not pass Michael.
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He’s always been a drama queen. It was tolerable prior to 2013-2014 when he had legitimate claim to fighting an uphill battle, but since then his team and the sport has increasingly revolved around him and it’s sort of fed into his delusions of thinking he’s god’s gift to man.
 
Russell could pull an Ocon and return to Merc in 2022. Spend a few years as Hamilton's protege a la Schumi-Massa and be ready to take over the mantle once Hamilton retires.

I don't know if Perez wants that Williams seat tbh. He already said he's only interested if the package is competitive.
 
Dotini
Poor Jimmy Clark once had to win 4 races in a row on the same set of tires.
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But surely that was mostly down to Jim Clark? He made everything last longer than anyone else.

There have been many stories about the tyres on Jim Clark's car lasting four races. This is true, but also the brake pads lasted three times longer than those of any other driver. Derek Wild used to say that you could put all the gearboxes on the bench in front of him in random order and he could tell which gearbox came out of Jim's car as it showed less signs of wear. The point is that the standard of preparation was no different between Jim's car and the number two car. It was just that the man was very 'soft' on his car and so he tended to last the race distance as a result.
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daan
But surely that was mostly down to Jim Clark? He made everything last longer than anyone else.

The point is that the standard of preparation was no different between Jim's car and the number two car.
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Yes, Clark was a genius at driving, including babying its reliability. He was my boyhood hero. Mario Andretti, on the other hand, was quipped to be the only man in the world who could break an anvil with a rubber mallet. Even so, in the early sixties, I still believe there was a difference between Clark's car and that of the number two car in terms of preparation. I have no fully authoritative biography of Clark, Chapman or Lotus to back this up. But perhaps there is member or two who does. I think a study of the statistics shows the finish rate of the #2, no matter who was driving, to be very poor compared Clark's car.

I think Chapman had a special fondness for Clark, and did his very best to provide him with all the best mechanics and latest available components. I think that sometimes he took shortcuts on the other cars.

When Jim Clark made his debut for Team Lotus at the Dutch GP in 1960, a hub failure caused the Walker car to lose a wheel and crash, badly hurting Moss. Mike Taylor has his newly acquired ex-works , ex-Argentine prototype 18 crash into the trees when the steering column failed at an imperfect weld.

When Clark started to turn heads with his impressive performances at Indy, it was said that AJ Foyt acquired an Indy Lotus to drive and was appalled by what he called "bird **** welding" on the suspension. So Foyt made his own Lotus clone, called the Coyote, employing higher tech material and more professional grade welding, winning with it in '67.

Driver transfer rumors:
Perez to Williams
Hulkenberg to Red Bull
Albon to Alpha Tauri
Tsunoda to Alpha Tauri
Gasly to Alpine
Kvyat out
Ocon out
 
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Dotini
Driver transfer rumors:
Perez to Williams
Hulkenberg to Red Bull
Albon to Alpha Tauri
Tsunoda to Alpha Tauri
Gasly to Alpine
Kvyat out
Ocon out
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These seem sensible but I don't think Hulkenberg will get the seat at Red Bull somehow, I think it's more likely he might get the second seat at Alpine as I think Gasly will renew his contract with Alpha Tauri since they seem quite happy with him and have said so publicly.

Time will tell, I guess the announcements will come soon enough!
 
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Have HAAS and Alfa Romep to sort out as well - Seems likely to be Mazepin at HAAS but not sure who the most likely team mate is. Alfa Romeo looking likely to be Raikkonen and Schumacher.
 

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