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As it's 40 years since Senna showed the world what he was capable of at the 1984 Monoco GP, Toleman/Benetton/Renault/Lotus/Renault/Alpine should be painting the A524 in the Segafredo/Candy livery for this race.
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They barely have a "Livery" themselves this year, asking quite abit for them to do literally anything competent.
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Andretti announce major technical signing as F1 entry plans go next level
Andretti F1 have confirmed the appointment of former Formula 1 technical guru Pat Symonds in a major statement of intent.
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At least the article explains why they looked so extreme.
I know they run with a single central rain light, but if you had two placed the outside edges of the rear wheels, the following drivers would at least have a better idea of how close they are to the car in front through heavy spray.
I know they run with a single central rain light, but if you had two placed the outside edges of the rear wheels, the following drivers would at least have a better idea of how close they are to the car in front through heavy spray.
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Andretti: F1's owner told me we'll never let your team in
Mario Andretti says Greg Maffei's personal assurance his son's team would not be allowed into F1 "was just like a bullet through my heart."
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Formula One is a private entity and those idiots are allowed to admit or refuse whomever it wants into its crappy club for jerks. If anything, I'm wondering why Andretti still wants to join something so openly hostile to them. I know that's part of the Formula One teams' plan, make Andretti give up and stop trying, but I don't see how this is worth it in the long-run.
The idea of wah-wahing to the US government about it is a bit laughable. The United States loves doing things on its own, having its own stuff away from the rest of the world and not signing up to global initiatives so Andretti looking for insistence to be allowed to join seems culturally hypocritical.
Andretti should be on the grid but if Formula One is so averse to it, don't bother. F1 has shown what a bunch of pricks are in it.
The idea of wah-wahing to the US government about it is a bit laughable. The United States loves doing things on its own, having its own stuff away from the rest of the world and not signing up to global initiatives so Andretti looking for insistence to be allowed to join seems culturally hypocritical.
Andretti should be on the grid but if Formula One is so averse to it, don't bother. F1 has shown what a bunch of pricks are in it.
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I think what the Congressmen are going after though, is that this is technically an American company (Liberty Media) denying another American company (Andretti) for anti-competitive practice.
I mean, your points are all valid, but I think that's a smaller point in this. It's still the US govt. only looking out for its own interest b/c a global brand has been using the US market to build itself & the American team with a recognizable name should get a piece of that.
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It makes me wonder why Andretti are pushing on in the face of all this definitive "you're not playing with us" stuff being thrown at them. They're spending a lot of money for what might end up being absolutely nothing.
At the same time, I do feel that Andretti are so deep now in the F1 building process, that it doesn't matter what they set the anti-dilution fee to, they'll be able to pay it, and then what?
At the same time, I do feel that Andretti are so deep now in the F1 building process, that it doesn't matter what they set the anti-dilution fee to, they'll be able to pay it, and then what?
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Its interesting to note that said American company in question has ownership of Live Nation, a company that itself is currently being sued by the DOJ for "Anti-Competitive Practices".
REEEAAALLY adds more to the "Run like a Mafia" description, which at this point has me question how widespread this is among their properties and the possible implications for their Aquisition of Moto GP.
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I think your point of them being into deep is why, myself. Don’t they already have a building setup or was it just plans for what it will look like? I believe I’ve also read that they’ve already begun work on chassis development.
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neither parties are using their own $. it's just the rich doing rich things/business.
it'd be nice to see a bit bigger grid though, 24 to 26. Saturdays would be very interesting.
it'd be nice to see a bit bigger grid though, 24 to 26. Saturdays would be very interesting.
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If F1 didn't want to draw the ire of the US government for being run like an old boy's club, they shouldn't have made maximizing the amount of money they extract from US audiences Job #1 after selling out to a US media consortium. What Andretti did is a perfectly valid next step.
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I imagine it ultimately comes down to: If the Cadillac engines prove to be good and competitive, the backmarker teams might want to switch to them and then that'd be taking a lot of money out of the other engine suppliers' pockets. If Andretti wanted to come in as a B-team for Mercedes, Ferrari or RBR and shell out for their engines, this would likely be a non-issue.
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The Indy 500s weren't Formula One races so outside parental ownership such as Chrysler owning Lamborghini at the time and the obvious loophole of Ford being the financial backers of English Cosworth engines, have there actually been American engines in Formula One before? It would be interesting to see a genuine American engine in the sport which only adds to the attraction that Andretti would undoubtedly bring.
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Rumors have Stewart Haas Racing in NASCAR closing down, Gene may have lost interest and hopefully sells his awful f1 team too.
The whole reason Andretti’s entry is held up is how the sport has exploded and team values have gone way up. Williams was sold for around $200 million just a few years ago. The fees for new teams entering is seen as too small today. Andretti will have to spend like a billion in a few years under a new Concorde agreement or will spend that buying an existing team now like Haas.
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