2024 Ferrari F80 - LaFerrari replacement (F250)

[Tornado]

As for the name "that's been around for decades" as you proudly said, Ferrari 250 GTO is 60 years old car and it's MOST EXPENSIVE CAR in history so they should sue Ford for using number 250?

Notably there's no "F" in the 250 GTO's name just like there's no Gran Turismo Omologato F-250 trim level.


Not that the latter matters.

Or suing Pontiac for taking GTO badge for their entire muscle car lineage!???

Notably there's no "250" in the Pontiac GTO's name; just like there wasn't a "599" in the Pontiac GTO's name. Pontiac was also pretty explicitly cheekily referencing the former to begin with and American car magazines were all in on the joke; but it's still not the same thing as being legally actionable as it would be if Ferrari straight up released a car badged F250. Assuming, of course, that the 250 GTO was sold "officially" in America in the first place or indeed that there was even anybody who would have had standing to sue Pontiac to begin with, since Ferrari's entire US presence at the time was basically just one guy importing cars for his personal car dealership and the 250 GTO was explicitly a race car that found life as a road car after it was no longer competitive.


And as for...

Ferrari took pains to make it so that was not available in the US.




And, in fact, we helpfully already have an example of a car with the exact same name being changed for international markets to avoid the ire of attempting to use a registered trademark closely aligned to a major domestic car company:

Or even two cars that came out at the same time that were renamed as a compromise between two manufacturers:

It's almost as if major manufacturers consider trademarks to be important or something.

It isn't Ferrari's fault that Americans steal both names and designs from Europe as older continent.

And it isn't just for the cars, it's language (english), architecture ( very own "white house" is made with "inspiration" of Rome and Greeks) etc.

Read a little, don't worry, your brain will be fine and you can learn something about cars( maybe)...

Don't worry. When you figure out what this is it will only make you look as foolish as we all already think you are., Mr. 2004-era Tifosi.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

New video of the F250 driving around

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Lol, I don't know if you're trolling for fun or you're asking seriously!???

F250 is a code name for the project in the development. The actual name of the car is unknown ( until the very reveal of the car).

As for the name "that's been around for decades" as you proudly said, Ferrari 250 GTO is 60 years old car and it's MOST EXPENSIVE CAR in history so they should sue Ford for using number 250?

Or suing Pontiac for taking GTO badge for their entire muscle car lineage!???

It isn't Ferrari's fault that Americans steal both names and designs from Europe as older continent.

And it isn't just for the cars, it's language (english), architecture ( very own "white house" is made with "inspiration" of Rome and Greeks) etc.

Read a little, don't worry, your brain will be fine and you can learn something about cars( maybe)...

Hang on...did you just claim that America stole English from Europe? That's a breathtaking understanding of history if I ever saw one.

 

[Keef]

Hang on...did you just claim that America stole English from Europe? That's a breathtaking understanding of history if I ever saw one.

To be fair, America is pretty breathtaking in general.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Some newer images of the F250 mule

2025 Ferrari Hypercar Test Mule Spied Looking Strange

We caught the LaFerrari replacement in nearly 30 spy shots. See the new hypercar up close and personal while wearing a fake body to conceal its real design.

www.motor1.com

There's an insane amount of intakes, cooling holes, and diffuser height

 

[TheCracker]

Anyone else have the impression that the rear wing isn't fixed but will usually sit flat against the bodywork. Like on a Veyron?

 

[Tornado]

It doesn't really look strange so much as it looks like it's from the mid 2000s.

 

[Keef]

Anyone else have the impression that the rear wing isn't fixed but will usually sit flat against the bodywork. Like on a Veyron?

I don't think it will be. It might have DRS or move under braking but stowable systems just add complexity and are only necessary for super high speed. They're about to debut a fixed-wing 296, and all the competitors have had great success selling fixed-wing cars, especially Porsche. You can bet the upcoming Corvette ZR1 is going to be otherwordly with a massive GT wing as well.

But then again this is a hypercar so competition isn't really a factor. The AMG has it but the Aston doesn't, and frankly the Aston is clearly the better performer.

 

[TheCracker]

I don't think it will be. It might have DRS or move under braking but stowable systems just add complexity and are only necessary for super high speed. They're about to debut a fixed-wing 296, and all the competitors have had great success selling fixed-wing cars, especially Porsche. You can bet the upcoming Corvette ZR1 is going to be otherwordly with a massive GT wing as well.

But then again this is a hypercar so competition isn't really a factor. The AMG has it but the Aston doesn't, and frankly the Aston is clearly the better performer.

The reason i say it is because the wing supports appear to come out of gaps in the bodywork rather than just sitting on it. This may well be just the camo bodywork fitting around the supports, but the wing shape and angle of the endplates appear to mimic almost the exact shape of the bodywork directly below it. There's also a fatty lump section in the middle of the wing that appears to serve no purpose other than potentially housing a brake light, which wouldn't be needed unless the raised wing obscures the usual above-the-rear-window one.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

New images of the Ferrari with a bunch of microphones taped to the exhaust

Ferrari Hypercar Spotted With Microphones Next To Exhaust Tips

The LaFerrari replacement has been spotted up close with a wild body featuring an extreme aero pack and more vents than we can count.

www.motor1.com

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Kind of glad to see the return of the big fixed wing to a Ferrari halo car. It's sadly not a wrap-around, but this will do.

 

[Keef]

Kind of glad to see the return of the big fixed wing to a Ferrari halo car. It's sadly not a wrap-around, but this will do.

Based on the strut shrouds under the wing I think it's retractable. Looks like it lowers down and leaves a small gap in the middle, and the endplates slot down next to the body.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

New images with slightly more production ready looking body parts and an active rear wing

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61663687/ferrari-laferrari-replacement-spy-photos/

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Can't wait to see what foolish name they give this one.

 

[TheCracker]

Can't wait to see what foolish name they give this one.

I guess the 'Ferrari Binotto' is off the cards now.

 

[Keef]

I guess the 'Ferrari Binotto' is off the cards now.

So he’s not coming on then?

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I guess the 'Ferrari Binotto' is off the cards now.

Cobbler

 

[Rossell2]

They'll call it the Ferrari Strategy Department. Ship it with the wrong tyres.

 

[McLaren]

Can't wait to see what foolish name they give this one.

We'll know in a couple months. Buyers will get their first look at it in October.

 

[CTznOfTime]

It's October.... Any leaked image or photos...
Probably all called for and allocated....

@Terronium-12 , hopefully you got your reservation

 

[Terronium-12]

It's October.... Any leaked image or photos...
Probably all called for and allocated....

@Terronium-12 , hopefully you got your reservation

 

[McLaren]

Private unveiling was last night.

I was at the F250 event last night. Perfectly done by Ferrari, who know exactly how to pitch. We saw the new e-factory and there was a statement made about how they see the future. The e-factory is not for EVs specifically. It is a flexible facility that can make whatever they want. They couldn’t have been clearer last night; “the customer will decide what technology he wants, now and in the future - pure petrol, hybrid or full EV. It’s up to you. We made the investment and we can do whatever the market dictates”.

I don’t want to say too much about the car (spoils the surprise elements which will be revealed on the 17th) but some details are already on this thread. 0-200 is 5.75 and Fiorano time is 1:15.3, probably with P zero trofeo tyres which both presentation cars were equipped with. They stressed that this is a car that shows the extent of their race learnings adapted for the road but it is firmly a road car and usable. Sitting inside feels incredible and hearing the tech presentation gave the strong feeling that this is fully thought through and real effort has been made. I don’t think it will be heavy. Should be a little lighter than the LaF is my guess. The engine is based around 499P and the naked car showed what an impressive job this looks to be.

The camouflaged mules are it. You are seeing the car. And it looks amazing. As others have said, quite square. Think Enzo more than LaFerrari. But really its neither. It’s fresh, fully function-led but still imposing and to my eyes beautiful in a race-car way rather than a 1960’s curves way. Maybe some won’t like it but it’s distinctive, fresh, will look incredible on the road when seen alongside other cars and is a far cry from the W1, which looks like a too-obvious extension of a 10-years-old design theme from the more beautiful P1. F250 is original. Ferrari on top of their game. All Ferraris seem to be controversial these days. My view is people gripe and worry too much. Take it for what it is. It’s a technical tour de force and really rather wonderful. What a privilege, thank you Ferrari.

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

I'm sure it'll look different in Rosso Corsa, but in the first camo it looks like a C8 Corvette but with C5 features, and the other shots look like an early Koenigsegg.

 

[Keef]

Private unveiling was last night.

Interesting statement about the customer dictating the drivetrain. Now that gets me thinking...

In the US, as far as I know, OEMs only have to follow emissions and safety rules if they make over a certain number of cars, eh? So what if these future custom Ferraris are technically all one-off cars? Can they do that legally? Every car is simply VINed as one of one or one of whatever very small number is below the limit.

 

[McLaren]

Interesting statement about the customer dictating the drivetrain. Now that gets me thinking...

In the US, as far as I know, OEMs only have to follow emissions and safety rules if they make over a certain number of cars, eh? So what if these future custom Ferraris are technically all one-off cars? Can they do that legally? Every car is simply VINed as one of one or one of whatever very small number is below the limit.

I have a feeling that's more marketing talk in that the factory is prepared for however the market sways overall. I don't think it means each individual car will be built literally with whatever powertrain the customer wants.

 

[TheCracker]

Just noticed it sits on 5-lug wheels rather than the single centre-locks of the LaFerrari, Enzo, F50, F40 & 288 GTO.

 

[Keef]

That is pretty interesting. It would seem they've reengineered their standard hub design because all their current road cars are five-lug, even the SP3 and SF90 XX. Could be an engineering decision, could be complaints from owners that they can't swap track wheels on their own, etc.

 

[Fezzik]

 

[TheCracker]

Video doesn't look to exist anymore. But this is a still of it:

Doesn't really show any details the latest mule doesn't already provide us with. In fact, it could quite easily be the test mule under the sheet.

 

[RACECAR]

That's just the internal code name. They'll probably come up with a more marketable name closer to production. The LaFerrari was called the F150 internally

Part of me likes to think these codenames simply exist to make fun of Ford and given how full of themselves they become lately (Remember that weirdly aggressive tweet in response to Chevy's Garage 56 Camaro at Le Mans?), it just feels fitting

It's a terrible picture I took during the F1 weekend last summer, but the SF90 was barely any bigger than the 458 next to it.
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Also, I don't know how rare they're supposed to be, but I saw 3 at the same event.

In fairness (given how overpriced F1 is period apparently), I get the impression seeing this at an F1 weekend is pretty much expected as someone just HAS to show off how much of a well-off Ferrari fan they are. Anything not a car event though, more closer to being Unicorn material.