2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[McLaren]

Serious questions:
Why do people on the right keep on saying ballots are being shredded or burnt or dumped somewhere in nature...

So they can claim Democrats are the ones "disposing" their votes & that's how they win.

They keep on saying there are videos or evidence of it..

Next time I will ask them to prove it to me.
I would be it's some sort of made up Photoshop video

The videos are almost always edited or based on an assumption to "confirm" their bias.

Ever see the one that focuses on someone dropping off a box during the night to a counting station after voting stopped? They'll claim that's a box of fake votes for Dems. In reality, that's just how it works because it takes hours for that box to clear security before it gets send to be counted.

Remember, there's also always a good chance projection is at hand. "Votes by dead family members" was a thing until multiple cases arose where it was Republican voters committing such acts. Then the right's talking heads stopped claiming it.

 

[Jezza819]

Remember, there's also always a good chance projection is at hand. "Votes by dead family members" was a thing until multiple cases arose where it was Republican voters committing such acts. Then the right's talking heads stopped claiming it.

Some even tried twice.

https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/las-vegas-man-who-voted-twice-using-dead-wifes-ballot-pleads-guilty-pays-2000-fine/

 

[Darla Starch]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/25/trump-freedom-caucus-north-carolina-electors-00185520

It is the damnedest of shames that they don't make those inhumane glue traps for rats this big.

Unfortunately Andy's from my state so I'm sorry for this

 

[Danoff]

Unfortunately Andy's from my state so I'm sorry for this

Glad to see someone's taking responsibility for this.

 

[UKMikey]

In more somber news, if democracy dies in darkness as the Washington Post's motto declares, then someone just turned out the light. My guess is owner Jeff Bezos:

 

[McLaren]

It was obviously 29 million people, dressed head to toe in Maga merchandise. You just didn't see them b/c the corrupt media wouldn't let them into the state.

 

[Danoff]

I think it's relatively simple. Authoritarianism.

We have a significant segment of the US population that thinks that the problems they're afraid of are to be solved with a stick, and the rules are to be ignored if they're in the way. That's Trump. They still don't understand, or even begin to think, that they could be on the receiving end of the stick. They haven't stopped to question whether what they're afraid of is real, whether the rules are protecting them, or whether a stick is actually a good idea to use.

They think they need their leader to be a jerk who pisses people off, and they instinctively want to side with the person who does that.

I defy anyone to listen to Tucker Carlson talk about how the US is an unruly little girl who needs a "spanking" when "daddy" Trump "gets home" and not see the exactly point about authoritarianism I was making above. Tuck is a disturbed individual, but the crowd seems to follow his basic ideology, that all is right in the world when you have a strong father figure who beats his subjects for stepping out of line.

 

[CTznOfTime]

there are so many opportunities for people to get educated and to learn and fact check as much as they can, i am really not sure why people on the right are so stuck on with their own believes and so rigid, unwilling to have an open mind...

The Mooch is one person is giving me hope that more people can be like him, but he is well spoken and educated, who was once corrupted:

 

[Joey D]

Trump works at McDonald's. McDonald's has a massive E.coli outbreak. I'm not saying Trump caused it, but I'm just asking the questions.

That's how morons like Tucker pose things right?

 

[Dbwasson]

If Harris wins the election, let's hope she'll be a better democrat- nay, president than Biden.

 

[Jezza819]

Again with these Conservative thugs.

A judge orders Virginia to restore 1,600 voter registrations purged ahead of the election

U.S. District Judge Patricia Giles told Virginia to restore over 1,600 voter registrations that she said were illegally purged in order to stop noncitizens from voting.

apnews.com

Of course Trump chimed in "Only US citizens should be allowed to vote". Well they're trying to you jackass!!! Your sleazy henchmen keep trying to stop them from voting.

 

[Danoff]

Harris and Trump Deadlocked to the End, Final Times/Siena National Poll Finds

The electorate has rarely seemed so evenly divided. The latest New York Times/Siena College poll found Harris and Trump tied 48 to 48.

www.nytimes.com

Harris and Trump are split nationally in the NYT Sienna poll of 80,000 people. This is the last NYT Sienna poll before the election.

If this is true, it suggests a Trump win. Harris cannot be dead even nationally and still win the EC, which has a republican lean to it. All of the battleground states lean red compared to national averages. So she needs to be leading by something like 3% nationally to be even in battleground states.

I think there is no way this poll is correct. The reason is because I simply refuse to believe that Harris is set up to underperform Hillary at a national level. This poll suggests that Harris is so unpopular that she is at risk of losing the popular vote, and I just don't think that's a credible scenario. If my position turns out to be correct, it means that there is a pro-Trump selection bias in at least this one specific poll.

If my position is not correct, the US has lost its damned mind and is about to elect a maniac clown.

 

[FuriousDemon]

The fact that the polls are this close already tells you all you need to know really. Even if (unlikely) the polls are off by 5%, having 45% of the country want to elect a fascist basically means we’re pretty much screwed, even if not exactly now, but soon enough for sure.

 

[TexRex]

 

[CTznOfTime]

So between someone who is rightfully sanctimonious and another person who is cluelessly stupid and willfully fascist, she will pick the latter...?!?

I don't think she is qualified to be a columnist anymore... Or is it that easy to be a columnist nowadays?!








Contrast that with:

 

[McLaren]

I find it hilarious that the Joe Rogan interview was just Trump reciting his greatest hits so all his loyal supporters will get nothing new & despite Joe's school girl admiration throughout, even he struggles to keep Trump on track. He does try to bring him back to his questions like the 2020 election, but the most Trump can muster is he barely lost, but has tons of evidence it was rigged. Joe asks him about this evidence & Trump just repeats himself, lol.

The only good thing that can really come out of this interview is that it exposes regular folks (who only hear clips of him), to an uninterrupted, in-context, straight from the horse's mouth Trump speaking for 3 hours on end & come to the conclusion of, "This guy just rambles about nonsense; he's not all there".

The most common summary is that it's a boring interview b/c you've heard it all before & Joe fails to press him for something more. Other than that, he continues to highlight that tariffs are the answer to making America's economy stronger than ever, that other countries pay for it, & that he wants to end the CHIPS act b/c tariffs would do better at producing semiconductors. Edit* Just to add on to this brilliant logic, tariffs will also allow him to eliminate income tax AND erase the deficit.

 

[CTznOfTime]

I find it hilarious that the Joe Rogan interview was just Trump reciting his greatest hits so all his loyal supporters will get nothing new & despite Joe's school girl admiration throughout, even he struggles to keep Trump on track. He does try to bring him back to his questions like the 2020 election, but the most Trump can muster is he barely lost, but has tons of evidence it was rigged. Joe asks him about this evidence & Trump just repeats himself, lol.

The only good thing that can really come out of this interview is that it exposes regular folks (who only hear clips of him), to an uninterrupted, in-context, straight from the horse's mouth Trump speaking for 3 hours on end & come to the conclusion of, "This guy just rambles about nonsense; he's not all there".

The most common summary is that it's a boring interview b/c you've heard it all before & Joe fails to press him for something more. Other than that, he continues to highlight that tariffs are the answer to making America's economy stronger than ever, that other countries pay for it, & that he wants to end the CHIPS act b/c tariffs would do better at producing semiconductors.

How could anyone bare listening to the horse rear end rambling on non-sense for even 20min...
I would kill myself if I have to sit through it...
Thanks for the summary there, I have echos of his annoying voice even as you write it here.

Kamala / Walz better win for my sanity.

 

[Shaun]

If my position is not correct, the US has lost its damned mind and is about to elect a maniac clown.

I....I just can't get my head around this.
As an outsider looking in that only has a fleeting interest in US politics, how just how.
On one side you have someone who seems to come across as a reasonably intelligent and well presented woman and on the other side is the Mango Mussolini. To me it's just a bizarre concept that the Mango one may get over the line with a win.

For the good of the US and the world for that matter I hope in the instance you are incorrect.

 

[Danoff]

I....I just can't get my head around this.
As an outsider looking in that only has a fleeting interest in US politics, how just how.

As an insider looking at this, I'm just as confused.

For the good of the US and the world for that matter I hope in the instance you are incorrect.

I think you mean you hope the poll is incorrect. There is actually some other support for the poll being incorrect. Pennsylvania and the other swing states are polling close to even, but we know they almost always have an R+3 or so bias, so a national poll of close to even doesn't make sense. We shouldn't be polling nationally at the same place as Pennsylvania. That's just not how it shakes out. There is a possibility that campaigning so hard in swing states has eliminated the R+3 bias and so those swing states have pulled toward D while leaving the national race to drift toward R. I really don't think so though.

It's possible that I just laid out an argument that Pennsylvania is actually polling off and that it's biased for Harris (meaning Trump is actually leading there). But again, I don't see Kamala under performing Hillary nationally, which is what that would require.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The most common summary is that it's a boring interview b/c you've heard it all before & Joe fails to press him for something more. Other than that, he continues to highlight that tariffs are the answer to making America's economy stronger than ever, that other countries pay for it, & that he wants to end the CHIPS act b/c tariffs would do better at producing semiconductors. Edit* Just to add on to this brilliant logic, tariffs will also allow him to eliminate income tax AND erase the deficit.

At this point he's just making **** up. Might as well tell people they're all gonna get a million bucks if he wins.

 

[TB]

Might as well tell people they're all gonna get a million bucks if he wins.

 

[UKMikey]

The 'Black Insurrectionist' was actually white. The deception did not stop there

“Black Insurrectionist,” the anonymous social media persona behind some of the most widely circulated conspiracy theories about Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate Tim Walz, can be traced to a white man from upstate New York.

apnews.com

 

[Keef]

This poll suggests that Harris is so unpopular that she is at risk of losing the popular vote, and I just don't think that's a credible scenario.

I don't either. I genuinely felt something when Biden dropped out and Kamala was announced. Something like this was an important moment, and over the course of several days I soaked up what this really means. It felt good.

Morally I lean much closer to libertarians than to modern Democrats, liberals, or progressives, and yet I felt a wave and knew it was a big deal. If I felt that, I have to imagine a lot of people felt it, many of them much stronger than I did.

 

[CTznOfTime]

 

[UKMikey]

"Sir":



Meanwhile, in Missouri:

 

[CTznOfTime]

GOP/Republicans/Maga/Right wing

Lying so much they can't even keep the message straight or consistent... It's like a drunk person trying to answer to the highway patrol...

Clearly they are not prepared to be unified, the reason they don't believe this country is unified is because of their own twisted mind

It is all in their stupid mind and belief..


Republicans Red: the party of cheaters liars and negativity.

Democrats Blue: the party of human compassion and positivity....


This is what I will tell all of my friends and family who are still supporting trump the dumb dump.

 

[Jezza819]

Meanwhile, in Missouri:

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That's funny. It's not Google that's waging a war on the democratic process, it's conservatives. They don't want the democratic process to work and are fighting to eliminate it.

 

[Keef]

That's funny. It's not Google that's waging a war on the democratic process, it's conservatives. They don't want the democratic process to work and are fighting to eliminate it.

They're waging war on our democratic process in order to install their democratic process, aka one person one vote one party.

 

[UKMikey]

They're waging war on our democratic process in order to install their democratic process, aka one person one vote one party.

Not to mention one people, one reign, one leader.

 

[Liquid]

Not to mention one people, one reign, one leader.

It's coke!

Says Don Jr.